toofarnorth Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Born in Fray Bentos, thought they were pies?! Frey Bentos was home to the nicest people I met in South America. Therefore he will fit in well in our dressing room. I hope
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Frey Bentos was home to the nicest people I met in South America. Therefore he will fit in well in our dressing room. I hope Surprised they didn't have a beef with you though.
modern matron Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 If Gaston Ramirez greets Bologna and already talking about a player of Southampton, the company does not give up. Indeed. The line is clear, those "details to be" spoken Ramirez are important. So much so that the position of Bologna is clear: for the way things are now, Ramirez does not move. Despite his statements and his head now already the Premier. The amount proposed to Bologna from Southampton is considered not yet fully satisfactory, as well as the three-year payment is not pleasing to the club president Guaraldi. The Bologna so do not give up: the agreement is not fully achieved. And the tug of war goes on ... Source?
beavis17 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Source? http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/ramirez-il-bologna-non-molla/ Luca Persico @LPCalcio Gastón Ramírez' transfer from Bologna to Southampton is not as close to completion as is been reported. Issue over spread of payments.
Scoobysaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Agent_ITK @Agent_ITK #Liverpool have had an £18m offer for Gaston Ramirez accepted and he is arriving for a medical tomorrow. #LFC #Football Retweeted by Fourth Official Expand Collapse Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite
Saint Garrett Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/ramirez-il-bologna-non-molla/ Luca Persico @LPCalcio Gastón Ramírez' transfer from Bologna to Southampton is not as close to completion as is been reported. Issue over spread of payments. Just pay it ffs. If we're willing to pay it, in installments, then just pay it in the right way, this guy could be the difference between staying up and going down.
Liquidshokk Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Agent_ITK @Agent_ITK #Liverpool have had an £18m offer for Gaston Ramirez accepted and he is arriving for a medical tomorrow. #LFC #Football Retweeted by Fourth Official Expand Collapse Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite Gazumped
beavis17 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Agent_ITK @Agent_ITK #Liverpool have had an £18m offer for Gaston Ramirez accepted and he is arriving for a medical tomorrow. #LFC #Football Retweeted by Fourth Official Expand Collapse Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite Those two have a long-running feud and Fourth Official is just trying to say that Agent_ITK isn't always right. However as you can see above everything might not be so rosy with the deal...
mulletsaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Sounds as close to being done as it can be, without the pen on the paper. not so sure myself. I'm as excited as the next man but we've been here before this summer, smacks a little of Buttner to me.
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 (edited) http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/ramirez-il-bologna-non-molla/ Luca Persico @LPCalcio Gastón Ramírez' transfer from Bologna to Southampton is not as close to completion as is been reported. Issue over spread of payments. Saw the comment about "chairman not happy with the 3 year payment" above. Could be either getting hijacked by Liverpool or some old reports which came out a few days ago from 4th Official w a few days ago being circulated. There are no quotes about signing for Liverpool from Ramirez, there are some about signing for Saints. Edited 17 August, 2012 by The9
itchen_dan Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Oh...... here we go..... Jemal & Buttner PtII
saintrich Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Agent_ITK @Agent_ITK #Liverpool have had an £18m offer for Gaston Ramirez accepted and he is arriving for a medical tomorrow. #LFC #Football Retweeted by Fourth Official Expand Collapse Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite makes sense - i'm sure Suarez said at the olympics that he was bringing Ramirez back to Liverpool with him.
Thedelldays Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Ah, and there we go. Bumped back to earth for time being
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 not so sure myself. I'm as excited as the next man but we've been here before this summer, smacks a little of Buttner to me. Smacks of every transfer ever done if you get to know about it before it happens and are just waiting for the signing.
Saint Scott Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 What time is the press conference? Hopefully NA can tie up some loose ends.
Crab Lungs Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Lol. He's a Saint. Fourth official chatting sh1t..
SuperSAINT Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Nixon saying he feared we were being used a little while ago better not come back to haunt us...
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 4 days ago, "Ramirez, £18m, Liverpool" http://www.caughtoffside.com/2012/08/12/liverpool-agree-18m-deal-to-sign-bologna-youngster-gaston-ramirez-according-to-reports/ Nothing new. Again, no quotes from him about Liverpool, at least one about Saints.
Griffo Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 So it's not so set in stone as we thought it was? F*ck sake.
MOSaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Sounds like standard transfer negotiations to me, Bologna president seems like an Italian Dave Whelan.
doubleonothing Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Simon Peach @SimonPeach Gastón Ramírez is edging closer to a move to #SainstFC - my story in The Independent: http://ind.pn/Nuh2mE
EBS1980 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/southampton-close-in-on-118m-gaston-ramirez-8056873.html This makes it sound very close to being done.
Dr Who? Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Well at least it made the Wigan game nearly sell out! No I think he will still be a Saint, and this is just tactics, trying to close the deal. Get you finger out Saints, no messing about, pay up!!
modern matron Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Nixon saying he feared we were being used a little while ago better not come back to haunt us... Thing is there is no way he would come out with direct quotes stating his interest in signing for us to then snub us.
beavis17 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Simon Peach @SimonPeach Gastón Ramírez is edging closer to a move to #SainstFC - my story in The Independent: http://ind.pn/Nuh2mE Not sure if he is aware of the supposed latest developments though.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Fourth Official retweeted that to show Agent ITK doesn't know what he's talking about. Or that's how I read it anyway.
Turkish Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 I wont believe the Liverpool rumours until it is on their OS with a statement congratulating the chairman.
St Marco Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 That liverpool thing looks like a rehash of the info awhile back. Didn't they already have a £12m bid accepted but couldn't agree personal terms? Why would they then go back with an £18m offer when the £12m offer was already accepted? Looks like fourth official reading last weeks papers again....
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 That liverpool thing looks like a rehash of the info awhile back. Didn't they already have a £12m bid accepted but couldn't agree personal terms? Why would they then go back with an £18m offer when the £12m offer was already accepted? Looks like fourth official reading last weeks papers again.... That's how I choose to interpret it as well.
dubai_phil Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Luca Persico @LPCalcio Gastón Ramírez' transfer from Bologna to Southampton is not as close to completion as is been reported. Issue over spread of payments.
beavis17 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 That liverpool thing looks like a rehash of the info awhile back. Didn't they already have a £12m bid accepted but couldn't agree personal terms? Why would they then go back with an £18m offer when the £12m offer was already accepted? Looks like fourth official reading last weeks papers again.... He's trying to get one over on Agent_ITK by saying he gets things wrong. There's nothing in it.
Saint Matty 76 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Fourth Official retweeted that to show Agent ITK doesn't know what he's talking about. Or that's how I read it anyway. I think this is right, the two of them don't get along and constantly call each other out on bullsh*t stories, hopefully this is him doing that as Ramirez is as nailed on coming here as we've been led to believe.
MadDogMatt Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 I am hoping the delay is cos we are going to unveil a number - 2/3 - signings in the same press conference ....
miserableoldgit Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/southampton-close-in-on-118m-gaston-ramirez-8056873.html
Rusaldo Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 that retweet from forth official, the original tweet was from 4 days ago.
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 I am hoping the delay is cos we are going to unveil a number - 2/3 - signings in the same press conference .... I'd be inclined to think the "delay" is because we haven't signed anyone yet.
Turkish Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 I am hoping the delay is cos we are going to unveil a number - 2/3 - signings in the same press conference .... is there a delay then?
mattyd Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Agent ITK apologised to Liverpool fans earlier for getting it wrong. He said that he more right than wrong on most occasions. It seems Liverpool Fans believe the deal with Saints is the only likely result.
hypochondriac Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 if gaston ramirez greets bologna and already talking about a player of southampton, the company does not give up. Indeed. The line is clear, those "details to be" spoken ramirez are important. So much so that the position of bologna is clear: For the way things are now, ramirez does not move. Despite his statements and his head now already the premier. The amount proposed to bologna from southampton is considered not yet fully satisfactory, as well as the three-year payment is not pleasing to the club president guaraldi. The bologna so do not give up: The agreement is not fully achieved. And the tug of war goes on ... ffs...
acersaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 5 live just reported that Bologna accepted Saints offer of £11.2m
mulletsaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Smacks of every transfer ever done if you get to know about it before it happens and are just waiting for the signing. I know what you are getting at but still a lot of similarities with Buttner. The 'Saints are the club I want to go to, they have a great vision and loads of money to invest' type quotes to the press before anything has been finalised. Let's remember that as far as one or two papers were concerned we signed Buttner ages ago so not the best sign of things being done and dusted. When you compare it to the Clyne transfer, we knew before it was on the OS not because the papers said so (although some did) but because he tweeted it and said goodbye to the Palace fans. Really don't like players talking to journalists like this before things are finalised. Really excited though, cummon NC get this one signed up ASAP.
Appy Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Liverpool's interesr in Ramirez ended when Comolli left.
St Marco Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Don't clubs have to agree a fee and sort that out before they are allowed to speak to a player? I mean you can't say we will pay £12m and then after speaking to the player say £12m spread over 10 years.... Pretty sure the two clubs would have worked on the payment details before it was agreed he could talk to us. And by his own admission he has said he has agreed terms on a four year deal. Looks done and dusted to me tbh.
Dig Dig Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 ffs... Why do you believe this? It's not from a credible source.
david in sweden Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 " .....it's a classic offer I could not refuse " QUOTE Gaston Ramirez on his potential move to Saints . (now where have I heard that phrase before ?)
S-Clarke Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Just to calm people down. Fourth official is retweeting ''fake agents'' on twitter, who reported he was close to signing for Liverpool and Spurs earlier this week, as he's trying to show them up.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Just to calm people down. Fourth official is retweeting ''fake agents'' on twitter, who reported he was close to signing for Liverpool and Spurs earlier this week, as he's trying to show them up. It's what Beavis17 posted that I'm worried about!
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