itchen_dan Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 SimonPeach: #SaintsFC have agreed a fee for Gastón Ramírez & I understand things are expected to progress over the weekend. Quite a coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Simon Peach@SimonPeach#SaintsFC have agreed a fee for Gastón Ramírez & I understand things are expected to progress over the weekend. Quite a coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Can't think of QPR buying anyone comparable to this to be honest? Plenty wage-wise. Cisse for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 He might have signed before 12 today but he wont have his work permit yet anyways Assuming he needs one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 so........we're not up to it - right ? all you moaners! ....can't attract really quality platers, eh ? still, he's only a " cheapie" for a mere £11.8 mill. ...right ? never again underestimate the pulling power of Don Cortese ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 so........we're not up to it - right ? all you moaners! ....can't attract really quality platers, eh ? still, he's only a " cheapie" for a mere £11.8 mill. ...right ? never again underestimate the pulling power of Don Cortese ! When his signature has dried on the contract, THEN I will agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Going to try and dig re: the EU passport issue. Italian sides are allowed two non-EU players (See here - this is NOT Ramirez: http://fedenerazzurra.com/2012/08/14/no-eu-passport-for-pereira-if-signed-he-would-occupy-one-of-two-available-non-eu-spots/) , so if Bologna have more than 2 non-EU players there's something to build on. Amusingly I just googled "Gaston Ramirez Passport" and my response in this thread was the top hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 (edited) Flight from Bologna arriving at around 2pm - 2:15pm at Gatwick. By the time he gets down here. 4:30pm ish. Medical takes about an hour or so. 6pm ish. Press shots and interviews take about 30 mins to an hour. So around 6:45pm - 7pm ish. Could possibly be announced late tonight. Who knows? Edited 17 August, 2012 by itchen_dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 so........we're not up to it - right ? all you moaners! ....can't attract really quality platers, eh ? still, he's only a " cheapie" for a mere £11.8 mill. ...right ? never again underestimate the pulling power of Don Cortese ! V.premature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edprice1984 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 For people asking how good he is... I went to the GB v Uruguay game and he was excellent. Their stand out player and everything that was good generally came from him! Can't believe we even went in for him, let alone look likely to sign him. Definately the biggest signing since I have supported Saints (1990). He basically kept Bologna up last season and ended up pushing them to 9th. Obviously some players struggle to adapt to English football - but he has been superb in Italian football (a hard league with lots of hard challenges) and we play a style of football that should suit him. For example if Stoke City signed him I would say it would be the biggest waste of money in the history of football. COYR, please please pull this off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 When his signature has dried on the contract, THEN I will agree with you I've never doubted we could attract bigger name players, what I've doubted is the will to do so. Adkins likes having a certain mould of player to work with and the pretence is that we're "sustainable". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Flight from Bologna arriving at around 2pm - 2:15pm at Gatwick. By the time he gets down here. Could possibly be announced late tonight. Who knows? I suspect he'll be getting a private jet from wherever to Southampton. It's not like we don't know someone who's got one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 MOTHER OF GOD!!!! Wednesday I didn't think this would come off (one of those abitious attempts to look big and clever) but now I am moist this is pretty much going to happen!!!! Season ticket is going to be purchased every season for this guys contract as he is an oustanding signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 He might have signed before 12 today but he wont have his work permit yet anyways I don't think the work permit is any problem as he's been playing in Italy ..(and is a current international) but international clearances seem to take time. How many Spanish speakers do we have in the club?......Gazza is Argentinian, so there's one. Did Adam L. ever learn any Spanish at home or...? of course Fonte and Guly are Brazilians and speak Portuguese..which is a bIt different to Spanish .I know ..but WTH .......football has an international language - right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Simon Peach @SimonPeach #SaintsFC have agreed a fee for Gastón Ramírez & I understand things are expected to progress over the weekend. Quite a coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 V.premature OK .I'll come back on Monday then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Haven't seen this link posted, few more quotes from the horse's mouth. http://www.football-italia.net/23504/ramirez-join%E2%80%A6southampton Good find : Serie A is set to lose another of its budding talents after Bologna reportedly accepted a €15m bid from Southampton for Gaston Ramirez. The Uruguayan fantasista has been paired with the likes of Roma, Inter, Udinese, Juventus, Fiorentina and Liverpool over the last 12 months. However, it seems that the attacking midfielder will move to Southampton after the newly promoted side beat Tottenham for his signature. “They believe in me in every way,” the player told the Corriere dello Sport. “And above all I have said that they are going to grow. “Southampton is a newly promoted team in the English top flight, but they have the means to stand tall in a few years. And with me they are going to build. “It’s all very stimulating – even if it is a little strange.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Where's THEVMAN? On holiday this week I think Which, ironically, will make it easy to identify him for anyone at SFC who is wondering who the mysterious THEVMAN who is ITK on Saintsweb is. Can't be many people involved with the first team who would go away this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 On holiday this week I think Which, ironically, will make it easy to identify him for anyone at SFC who is wondering who the mysterious THEVMAN who is ITK on Saintsweb is. Can't be many people involved with the first team who would go away this week I don't think THEVMAN works for Saints, doesn't he just know Lallana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 The9 is THEVMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 I don't think THEVMAN works for Saints, doesn't he just know Lallana? Did you send me your mod application by PM by mistake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 I heard it was Dune. He wasn't banned he went on holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 I thought he was dune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 On holiday this week I think Which, ironically, will make it easy to identify him for anyone at SFC who is wondering who the mysterious THEVMAN who is ITK on Saintsweb is. Can't be many people involved with the first team who would go away this week Cortese!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Plenty wage-wise. Cisse for a start. But that's my point. Loads of different factors other than simply how much a player is paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 On holiday this week I think Which, ironically, will make it easy to identify him for anyone at SFC who is wondering who the mysterious THEVMAN who is ITK on Saintsweb is. Can't be many people involved with the first team who would go away this week The VM Man is out of the country. Nicola Cortese is out of the country........ Mongboard Conspiracy theories number 1933822 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Gaston Ramirez Amazing Torres! I watch too much Countdown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Gaston Ramirez Amazing Torres! I watch too much Countdown! also Stargaze Rim On Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Also erm... Orgazm! In Tears! Dat's you lot on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Rimz Arse Tango! Dat's my weekend sorted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Ooh there's a Saintz in there... erm... Mr. Saintz Rage! No good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Going to try and dig re: the EU passport issue. Italian sides are allowed two non-EU players (See here - this is NOT Ramirez: http://fedenerazzurra.com/2012/08/14/no-eu-passport-for-pereira-if-signed-he-would-occupy-one-of-two-available-non-eu-spots/) , so if Bologna have more than 2 non-EU players there's something to build on. Amusingly I just googled "Gaston Ramirez Passport" and my response in this thread was the top hit. Bologna currently have 5 Uruguayans and 1 Brazilian who are clearly not born in the EU, so there's a good chance at least 4 of them have EU Passports... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Frankly, my first reaction is to be a little scared at us spending big money. I will have to work at undoing the mindset that has grown after the last few years before I can get too excited and banish the money fears, however good this guy sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 I don't think the work permit is any problem as he's been playing in Italy ..(and is a current international) but international clearances seem to take time. How many Spanish speakers do we have in the club?......Gazza is Argentinian, so there's one. Did Adam L. ever learn any Spanish at home or...? of course Fonte and Guly are Brazilians and speak Portuguese..which is a bIt different to Spanish .I know ..but WTH .......football has an international language - right? Already did this one earlier in the thread. Also, Italy have a 2 non-EU player regulation and have 5 Uruguayans so there's a good chance he's got a Spanish passport. I'm trying to find confirmation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Going to try and dig re: the EU passport issue. Italian sides are allowed two non-EU players (See here - this is NOT Ramirez: http://fedenerazzurra.com/2012/08/14/no-eu-passport-for-pereira-if-signed-he-would-occupy-one-of-two-available-non-eu-spots/) , so if Bologna have more than 2 non-EU players there's something to build on. Amusingly I just googled "Gaston Ramirez Passport" and my response in this thread was the top hit. You've misinterpreted this. Italian clubs are allowed to sign two non-EU players from outside of Italy every season. The fact that he's not occupying one of these spots is irrelevant, it applies on a season by season basis. Gaston Ramirez does not yet qualify for an EU passport, so will require a work permit. However, given his potential and international caps, this will be a formality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Gaston Ramirez Amazing Torres! I watch too much Countdown! Also erm... Orgazm! In Tears! Dat's you lot on here! Rimz Arse Tango! Dat's my weekend sorted! Ooh there's a Saintz in there... erm... Mr. Saintz Rage! No good? This is Muppet Show stuff. A mod ought to put a stop to it, never one around when you need one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 FourthOfficial - Ramieerz to speak to Liverpool tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 FourthOfficial - Ramieerz to speak to Liverpool tomorrow He's just retweeting a no mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 FourthOfficial - Ramieerz to speak to Liverpool tomorrow He's just retweeting a no mark. Yeah, I gave up following FourthOfficial ages ago...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 He's just retweeting a no mark. Yeah, I gave up following FourthOfficial ages ago...... ok - picnic over.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo7 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Born in Fray Bentos, thought they were pies?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 (edited) Already did this one earlier in the thread. Also, Italy have a 2 non-EU player regulation and have 5 Uruguayans so there's a good chance he's got a Spanish passport. I'm trying to find confirmation though. Non-EU at Bologna : Henry Giminez Gaston Ramirez Diego Perez Federico Rodriguez Abero - definitely has an Italian passport : http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2012/07/19/3252744/bologna-swoop-for-nacional-defender-abero Carvalho -also has dual nationality : http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=326513 So 2 from Henry Giminez Gaston Ramirez Diego Perez Federico Rodriguez must have EU country passports. And Perez was at Monaco before he joined Bologna... EDIT : See below, seems they can SIGN 2 a season, it's not about squad composition. Oh well. Edited 17 August, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 You've misinterpreted this. Italian clubs are allowed to sign two non-EU players from outside of Italy every season. The fact that he's not occupying one of these spots is irrelevant, it applies on a season by season basis. Gaston Ramirez does not yet qualify for an EU passport, so will require a work permit. However, given his potential and international caps, this will be a formality. Ah, thanks for clarifying. Oh well, balls. How do you know he's not got an EU passport btw? He only has 9 caps, so we'll at least need to appeal the work permit application even though he's at the #2 rated nation at the moment, which is a bit crappy. As we recall from signing Guly, the FIGC take forever with the paperwork too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Right. Non-EU at Bologna : Henry Giminez Gaston Ramirez Diego Perez Federico Rodriguez Abero - definitely has an Italian passport : http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2012/07/19/3252744/bologna-swoop-for-nacional-defender-abero Carvalho -also has dual nationality : http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=326513 So 2 from Henry Giminez Gaston Ramirez Diego Perez Federico Rodriguez must have EU country passports. And Perez was at Monaco before he joined Bologna... Italian teams can buy 2 non EU per season, no restrictions on how many they can have in their squad...for example they could of brought in 6 over the last 3 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 More in-depth interview http://www.football-italia.net/23516/ramirez-ready-southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 “I know that it is not official yet, even if it is the right offer for Bologna,” the 21-year-old told Sky Sport Italia. “There are just a few details missing with Bologna for my transfer to the Saints. “They tracked me with more intensity than the other clubs and that struck me. An agreement was reached with my agent and I’m ready to fly out for my medical.” A host of European giants were being linked with the former Penarol man and his choice of new club will be ranked as a shock. “Every player wants to aim for the top, but they have promised me a primary role in their plans and that is important,” added the South American. “I’m young and I need to play – that is the only way to keep growing.” Italian clubs such as Inter and Juventus have been paired with him in the past. “I would have wanted to stay in Italy, but this is football,” he explained. “Today’s situation shows that there is no money in Italy and a change of air for me was inevitable. “Inter? There was nothing official. Southampton were the club who decided to sign me and I’m happy that I’ll be going there.” Sounds as close to being done as it can be, without the pen on the paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 If Gaston Ramirez greets Bologna and already talking about a player of Southampton, the company does not give up. Indeed. The line is clear, those "details to be" spoken Ramirez are important. So much so that the position of Bologna is clear: for the way things are now, Ramirez does not move. Despite his statements and his head now already the Premier. The amount proposed to Bologna from Southampton is considered not yet fully satisfactory, as well as the three-year payment is not pleasing to the club president Guaraldi. The Bologna so do not give up: the agreement is not fully achieved. And the tug of war goes on ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 FourthOfficial - Ramieerz to speak to Liverpool tomorrow Arrgh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 If Gaston Ramirez greets Bologna and already talking about a player of Southampton, the company does not give up. Indeed. The line is clear, those "details to be" spoken Ramirez are important. So much so that the position of Bologna is clear: for the way things are now, Ramirez does not move. Despite his statements and his head now already the Premier. The amount proposed to Bologna from Southampton is considered not yet fully satisfactory, as well as the three-year payment is not pleasing to the club president Guaraldi. The Bologna so do not give up: the agreement is not fully achieved. And the tug of war goes on ... 10 more pages to go then.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Italian teams can buy 2 non EU per season, no restrictions on how many they can have in their squad...for example they could of brought in 6 over the last 3 seasons. Yeah, edited since I found that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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