Frank's cousin Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Throughout this saga ..... there has not been 1 official comment from Saints - which we would do well to remember - huge amount of speculation and utilization of media and twitter to 'manipulate' the deal - its the only reason for leaks, otherwise its BS. If we sign him we sign him, if not, then so be it... someone else pays 20mil or more, then they are welcome as its too much for a player who is still developing and has no track reord in the prem IMHO... still think its a tease from Bologna to hurry us up..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Let's put it this way. If he doesn't sign today he probably won't sign for us. They want the money ASAP so they can finalise the deals for their replacement players. They will want at least a day for that. D-day for Ramirez I feel. The problem is they want the money end of, if it'll take an extra few hours tomorrow then they'll extend it. They're not just going to throw away €15m on a few hours. There will be an every changing deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 it just does not work like that Well the media reported that their president set a deadline for today do would make sense. If saints were in that position I'd rather it went through today rather than tomorrow. Otherwise you panic buy and end up spending £35mil on a big lump with a pony tail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Do we ever learn? The club are fantastic at creating smoke screens to deflect attention away from realistic targets like Phillips. They do this every time without confirming anything throughout the entire process and leaving us to speculate out of all proportion. Get used to it as it won't be the last time they do it. what are you saying...we were never in for Ramirez..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Throughout this saga ..... there has not been 1 official comment from Saints - which we would do well to remember - huge amount of speculation and utilization of media and twitter to 'manipulate' the deal - its the only reason for leaks' date=' otherwise its BS. If we sign him we sign him, if not, then so be it... someone else pays 20mil or more, then they are welcome as its too much for a player who is still developing and has no track reord in the prem IMHO... still think its a tease from Bologna to hurry us up.....[/quote'] TBF Davis and Rodriguez have been about as official it has been from us. Kelvin said ''It looks like Ramirez is coming'' and Jay confirmed that he tried to talk Spanish with him, but failed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 If Liverpool come in and offer bologna what they want (and Penarol) and the player 40kpw, then there's no reason why they couldn't tie up the deal in a day, IMO. No reason. It's about money. We're cutting a deal. As we know, Liverpool will just pay silly money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Do we ever learn? The club are fantastic at creating smoke screens to deflect attention away from realistic targets like Phillips. They do this every time without confirming anything throughout the entire process and leaving us to speculate out of all proportion. Get used to it as it won't be the last time they do it. Do you seriously believe we've wasted weeks of negotiations just to create a smokescreen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Tbh even if he does sign for us the whole saga has taken away the initial 'impact' of signing someone of his supposed calibre. for all we know he could be a complete let down anyway. Its like an underwhelming conclusion to a soap opera. There is only one reason for feeling like this. The majority on this forum hang on every bit of gossip, every tweet, every idiot out there google searching and then posting here. Come tomorrow night we will have in who we have....end off! Its only become like a poor soap opera because people on here have turned it into one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 I think as we all knew. Minarzouki: @Jayrodfan2 Today will be decisive, if the deal is not concluded then it wont happen. Liverpool link has only been reported by one source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Do you seriously believe we've wasted weeks of negotiations just to create a smokescreen? A smokescreen to divert attention from a player Adkins admitted interest in no less! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 I think as we all knew. Minarzouki: @Jayrodfan2 Today will be decisive, if the deal is not concluded then it wont happen. Liverpool link has only been reported by one source Today is decisive has been used for the last week now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 A smokescreen to divert attention from a player Adkins admitted interest in no less! so you think, this is all made up..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 There is only one reason for feeling like this. The majority on this forum hang on every bit of gossip, every tweet, every idiot out there google searching and then posting here. Come tomorrow night we will have in who we have....end off! Its only become like a poor soap opera because people on here have turned it into one! How fitting for Dan to post a twitter link after this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 He will sign....CHIIILLLL!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Maybe Liverpool's involvement has only been mentioned by Bologna's chairman to get things done and dusted, while chancing upping things a bit. If someone was dragging things out longer than I wanted, I would mention someone else is interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 so you think, this is all made up..? No...I was mocking the idea this was an elaborate smokescreen to get Phillips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Malc Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 what are you saying...we were never in for Ramirez..? Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 No...I was mocking the idea this was an elaborate smokescreen to get Phillips. I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 He will sign....CHIIILLLL!!!! My thoughts exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Pretty much. this would be the most elaborate hoax...how much did we pay the Bolongna owner to talk about us...for ramirez to talk about us..to fl him over etc..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr27 Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 If Spurs sell Van der Vaart to Hamburg, you can bet that it'll be reported as being back in the Ramirez race too.... and he'll be dangled the No.10 shirt carrot as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Malc Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Do you seriously believe we've wasted weeks of negotiations just to create a smokescreen? The only people who have wasted time are the people who are speculating. Saints have never said that they have been involved with any negotiations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 why is it some on here belive every word some ficticious twitterer posts on twitter. Some of you seem to hanger on every word they say. Im no on twitter thankfully . but i could make up a name like moussaki1 and pretend to be some greek journo. and state that garston is being targetted by pathaaniakos . and you would belive that. What will be will be. there is nothing you or I can do about the transfer of garston or any other player the club are involved in. Its between NC NA and the other club concerned. Second guesseing every move is unhelpful . none of us apart the key pesonalities have no got a scooby doo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Panicccccccccccccccccccccc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Pretty much. Then you're slightly barking! just to put as a smokescreen in our intents to sign a championship player??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 why is it some on here belive every word some ficticious twitterer posts on twitter. Some of you seem to hanger on every word they say. Im no on twitter thankfully . but i could make up a name like moussaki1 and pretend to be some greek journo. and state that garston is being targetted by pathaaniakos . and you would belive that. What will be will be. there is nothing you or I can do about the transfer of garston or any other player the club are involved in. Its between NC NA and the other club concerned. Second guesseing every move is unhelpful . none of us apart the key pesonalities have no got a scooby doo This is a forum people will speculate and post info they found however fact or fictional it's is. People are excited for Christ sake. People like you moaning and trying to put everything on a downer is unhelpful and pointless. If you don't like the banter then don't read the thread, simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 We need to get real about this. The only reason the bloke even considered coming here in the first place was the promise of wads of dosh. His interest in our club is Zero as witnessed by the fact that he couldn't give a toss about whether he comes here or not, hence the laissez faire attitude of all concerned on the their side. Like Buttner he's just waiting for a much better offer from a club he's heard of to come on on deadline day so we will be gazumped yet again. Why don't we just tell them to Fff Off and stop humiliating ourselves. We must be becoming a laughing stock. Whilst others buy we do next to Fff All and just make ourselves look like desperate tits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Malc Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Then you're slightly barking! just to put as a smokescreen in our intents to sign a championship player??? We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 We need to get real about this. The only reason the bloke even considered coming here in the first place was the promise of wads of dosh. His interest in our club is Zero as witnessed by the fact that he couldn't give a toss about whether he comes here or not, hence the laissez faire attitude of all concerned on the their side. Like Buttner he's just waiting for a much better offer from a club he's heard of to come on on deadline day so we will be gazumped yet again. Why don't we just tell them to Fff Off and stop humiliating ourselves. We must be becoming a laughing stock. Whilst others buy we do next to Fff All and just make ourselves look like desperate tits. We really aren't. It will still most likely happen, but even if it doesn't we won't become a laughing stock. Every club in the country have deals that break down. What a hysterical post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Bologna have confirmed the signing of Michele Pazienza on their OS. Being presented at a press conference this afternoon. Ramirez gotta be done now surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 (edited) This is the correct ie not google nonsense translation, of the calciomercato exclusive : Viste le difficoltà del Southampton ad arrivare a Ramirez, Given the difficulties Saints are having in getting Ramirez il Liverpool è tornato all'assalto col Bologna. Liverpool are back on the scene with a bid for him La volontà dei Reds è di strappare il giocatore al Bologna ma non alle condizioni imposte dai felsinei. Liverpool want to take him but not on bolognas terms. Secondo quanto appreso in esclusiva da Calcimercato.com, According to our exclusive understanding at Calciomercato.com ( sounds like his or bolognas agents have briefed them) la richiesta del Bologna è di venti milioni di euro subito. Bolognas request is for 20million euros immediately. Il Liverpool è arrivato a offrirne massimo 14 ma è pronta una nuova proposta per i rossoblù. Liverpool have got to the stage of offering 14million as a maximum but are "apparently"(my interpretation and speech marks) preparing a new offer for Bologna. La nuova offensiva del Liverpool prevede 5 milioni per il prestito oneroso e una cifra tra i 10 e 15 milioni per l'obbligo di riscatto nel 2013. The new offer from Liverpool allows 5million for a securitised loan of gr for 1 year and a sum of between 10 and 15 million for an obligated settlement at the end (final payment) in 2013. Il Bologna proverà a resistere, ma vista la volontà del giocatore di partire, alla fine potrebbe accettare la nuova formula per fare cassa tra un anno. Bologna will try to resist but given the desire of the player to leave in the end they might accept the new formula to get a better final deal in a years time. Sounds like a final "gee-up" to me but if its true id be rather peeved at Liverpool doing this after we have done all the legwork. Still think ours is the deal- but this is unwanted bs at this stage - and it clearly does not even start to address the question of the penarol aspect either. Sounds improbable to me. Edited 30 August, 2012 by Giordano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyD Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 I have been following this thread for 10 days or so and my main hobby (the saints) has been on hold - thankfully there will be closure in 30 hours or so either way! I really hope we sign him as he'll have a massively positive effect BUT if we don't - all things happen for a reason and we move on, simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 We need to get real about this. The only reason the bloke even considered coming here in the first place was the promise of wads of dosh. His interest in our club is Zero as witnessed by the fact that he couldn't give a toss about whether he comes here or not, hence the laissez faire attitude of all concerned on the their side. Like Buttner he's just waiting for a much better offer from a club he's heard of to come on on deadline day so we will be gazumped yet again. Why don't we just tell them to Fff Off and stop humiliating ourselves. We must be becoming a laughing stock. Whilst others buy we do next to Fff All and just make ourselves look like desperate tits. As is usual you have grabbed hold of the wrong end of the stick. He wants to come here because he will play regularly in the premiership (well for a season anyway ). Ok yeah he will get shed loads of dosh but he likely would anywhere he went. Its not him or his agent holding things up, it is the selling club and/or this 30% ownership thing with the Uruguian club. Why dont you read things before posting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 So Liverpool want him but not on Bologna's terms? Hmm seeing as we have spent 2 weeks agreeing with them I doubt anyone else can get in there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 So Liverpool want him but not on Bologna's terms? Hmm seeing as we have spent 2 weeks agreeing with them I doubt anyone else can get in there now. This!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Another boring twitter update @DL_Corriere @Lee_R1989 we expect the deal done today. rumors said he has the medical in bologna today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Another boring twitter update @DL_Corriere @Lee_R1989 we expect the deal done today. rumors said he has the medical in bologna today You're not allowed to post updates on here according to some. What do you think you're doing hanging on every last word of every article and tweet? We're not allowed to know the latest goings on. We must look at this thread and be in silence until there is official confirmation. Anyway, thanks for that. Seems a vareity of sources in Italy are saying it *should* be done today. Lets bloody hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 We must be becoming a laughing stock. Why do people think this? I saw a saints fan on twitter say the same. How does is being linked with, and close to singing a brilliant young talent make us a laughing stock? Deals for players break down every day at every club. No one outside of said clubs fan base could give a toss. This one hasn't even broken down yet. Chill out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 You're not allowed to post updates on here according to some. What do you think you're doing hanging on every last word of every article and tweet? We're not allowed to know the latest goings on. We must look at this thread and be in silence until there is official confirmation. Anyway, thanks for that. Seems a vareity of sources in Italy are saying it *should* be done today. Lets bloody hope so! The fact Bologna announced a signing today is telling IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Bologna apparently have a press conference to announce the signing of Michele Pazienza later on today. http://www.bolognafc.it/news.asp?id=3638#.UD85bmY52-8.twitter Thought this was on hold until Ramirez was off? Positive news maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Keep the updates coming. No point stopping now, it's decision time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batterseasaint Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 His interest in our club is Zero as witnessed by the fact that he couldn't give a toss about whether he comes here or not, hence the laissez faire attitude of all concerned on the their side. Are you effing mad? He went on strike, effectively contravening his terms of employment, in order to force through a move to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Liverpool still looking to push through a deal for Clint Dempsey. Surely they don't need Ramirez too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Liverpool will get Dempsey if anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Liverpool will get Dempsey if anyone. After doing all that work to unsettle him (allegedly), it seems like the most likely destination for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Liverpool will get Dempsey if anyone. After the dogs-dinner Liverpool have made of the Dempsey deal, I can't see them wrapping up Gaston in 2 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Rodgers has already said he needs to offload before he can get anyone in! Liverpool haven't got 20m to spunk on a player now! They def want Dempsey, total bunkum story! Imo he will be announced as a Saint later today alongside Yoshida! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 DL_corriere: rumors: #bolognafc reached an agreement with striker sergio floccari. deal will be completed when #ramirez will be a saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 DL_corriere: rumors: #bolognafc reached an agreement with striker sergio floccari. deal will be completed when #ramirez will be a saint you and your twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 you and your twitter you and your obsession with getting on peoples nerves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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