itchen_dan Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 If only transfers were as easy as FM. To be honest, Dembele has signed for Tottenham from Fulham in less that 24 hours. Fee was agreed last night, went for medical today, and signed today. Why has it taken us a good 20 or so days to get Ramirez. I understand there are more parties etc etc but I'd still expect it to be completed within a week. Even Spurs got a fee agreed and into contract negotiations within a few days for Ramirez. It seems we have made hard work of this deal. It will be a massive deal for the club IF it comes off but I still feel it has taken alot longer than it should've IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 If we had been negotiating in mid June then a. We would have more chance to sort out any problems. b. Identify and get in a good alternative if it fell though. This is the problem with leaving important signings so late in the transfer window. I hope this goes through but i am not confident. If it fails to go through i hope it does not cost us our place in the leadgue at the end of the season. 1. How do you know we weren't trying to sign him earlier on this summer...look how long J-Rod took to sign (we were after him for over a year) 2. I'm sure you'd rather we went down anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 To be honest, Dembele has signed for Tottenham from Fulham in less that 24 hours. Fee was agreed last night, went for medical today, and signed today. Why has it taken us a good 20 or so days to get Ramirez. I understand there are more parties etc etc but I'd still expect it to be completed within a week. Even Spurs got a fee agreed and into contract negotiations within a few days for Ramirez. It seems we have made hard work of this deal. It will be a massive deal for the club IF it comes off but I still feel it has taken alot longer than it should've IMO. Bit easier when he's already playing in this league and in the same City. Also I'm sure there is a chance that talks were ongoing, just because public as of last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 To be honest, Dembele has signed for Tottenham from Fulham in less that 24 hours. Fee was agreed last night, went for medical today, and signed today. Why has it taken us a good 20 or so days to get Ramirez. I understand there are more parties etc etc but I'd still expect it to be completed within a week. Even Spurs got a fee agreed and into contract negotiations within a few days for Ramirez. It seems we have made hard work of this deal. It will be a massive deal for the club IF it comes off but I still feel it has taken alot longer than it should've IMO. Im sure Spurs have known Dembele's price for a while. He has a release clause in his contract so that makes it a more simple deal - the terms are already decided. The Ramirez deal involves a complex third party agreement and Italians.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 2. I'm sure you'd rather we went down anyway. Anything to be proven right ahead of the good of the team we support. Eh Dalek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 It does beg the question though - Why in general do Saints take so long to sign players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 (edited) To be honest, Dembele has signed for Tottenham from Fulham in less that 24 hours. Fee was agreed last night, went for medical today, and signed today. Why has it taken us a good 20 or so days to get Ramirez. I understand there are more parties etc etc but I'd still expect it to be completed within a week. Even Spurs got a fee agreed and into contract negotiations within a few days for Ramirez. It seems we have made hard work of this deal. It will be a massive deal for the club IF it comes off but I still feel it has taken alot longer than it should've IMO. 1. All that Spuds stuff has been ANNOUNCED in less than 24 hours. Negotiations could have been going on privately for days or even weeks. 2. Transfers are like bits of string. Just because Spurs have a 10cm piece of string, doesn't mean all pieces of string are 10 cm. It does beg the question though - Why in general do Saints take so long to sign players? We don't. We just haven't been endlessly badgering Fulhams journalist on Twitter about who Fulham are signing. Edited 29 August, 2012 by Lighthouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Dedication to this thread............. who will come out on top? S-Clarke Posts:287 itchen_dan Posts:273 Saint Charlie Posts:248 Dig Dig Posts:157 Thedelldays Posts:156 hypochondriac Posts:142 Turkish Posts:136 This Charming Man Posts:119 The9 Posts:118 Jesus, clearly none of this lot have full-time jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 It does beg the question though - Why in general do Saints take so long to sign players? Because they do? We are seemingly looking at a very narrow gap of players i.e. young, talented, right attitude etc etc so these things will be more drawn out - its not just a case of oh he can kick a ball he'll do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Jesus, clearly none of this lot have full-time jobs I just take a lot of poo's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Do we really need to spend all this money on ramerez ,hardly proven or out of nappies is he really going to make any difference to our results we have got to stop conceding goals. we need kasper schmike from leicster and cb,s Not proven? Yeah piece of p&ss that Italian league, and the Uruguayan team is cr#p too. Try opening your eyes and be excited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rog Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Signed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rog Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Take that as a no then, is he even in the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Take that as a no then, is he even in the country? Don't know why your asking on here....nobody knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Don't know why your asking on here....nobody knows Football Juice say he was at Staplewood today. Reliability not guaranteed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Now their other signing has agreed everything and they are also waiting for Ramirez's sale so they can sign off this one as well. For Floccari is no agreement with Lazio. It expects the sale of Ramirez 29/08/2012 18:43 by Mario Eros Bags for zerocinquantuno.com © photo by Federico De Luca Bologna and Lazio have reached an agreement for Sergio Floccari. The player will go into rossoblu on loan for € 800,000 with right of redemption set at 3.7 million, then the total cost of 4.5 million. But we must wait for the sale by the company rossoblu Gaston Ramirez because you can put pen to paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Take that as a no then, is he even in the country? Most likely on his way to either White Hart Lane or Old Trafford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Most likely on his way to either White Hart Lane or Old Trafford Here is another of our little rays of sunshine. Time to stop peddling this tired crap, no club will agree terms with Bologna now. It's either us or he stays at Bologna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Just sign ffs.... Hopefully that does the trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Here is another of our little rays of sunshine. Time to stop peddling this tired crap, no club will agree terms with Bologna now. It's either us or he stays at Bologna Is your confidence waining ? You were bragging about being one of the 42.66% the other day. Anyway hope your right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Im sure Spurs have known Dembele's price for a while. He has a release clause in his contract so that makes it a more simple deal - the terms are already decided. The Ramirez deal involves a complex third party agreement and Italians.... Spurs' interest in Dembele has been known about for months, much longer than our interest in Ramirez has been public knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 He wasn't at Bologna training today. Doing medical and flying over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 All quiet. Maybe the Italian media haven't been fed any info today? Probably because Bologna can't put anymore spin on it: they are selling their best player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi7s Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 One of the most confusing google translations yet, it reads 'farewell Gaston' and is about Bologna trying to sign Floccari. But also mentions Juve, yet I haven't a clue what that bit means. http://www.calciomercato.com/mercato/bologna-pazienza-e-floccari-addio-gaston-234635 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Calm before the storm Bet we hear nothing then BAM, all over the os that we've signed him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 One of the most confusing google translations yet, it reads 'farewell Gaston' and is about Bologna trying to sign Floccari. But also mentions Juve, yet I haven't a clue what that bit means. http://www.calciomercato.com/mercato/bologna-pazienza-e-floccari-addio-gaston-234635 They are signing Patience (Italian translation of his name) from Juve with some of the Ramirez money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi7s Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 They are signing Patience (Italian translation of his name) from Juve with some of the Ramirez money. Ah cheers mate, had no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Bologna e Lazio hanno raggiunto l'accordo per Sergio Floccari. Il giocatore passerà in rossoblu in prestito per 800.000 euro con diritto di riscatto fissato a 3,7 milioni di euro, costo totale quindi a 4,5 mln. Bisogna però attendere la cessione da parte della società rossoblu di Gaston Ramirez perchè si possa mettere nero su bianco. Translation: Bologna and Lazio have reached an agreement for the loan transfer of Sergio Floccari for €800k with a right to sign agreement fixed at €3.7m (total cost of the operation would be €4.5m). The deal now waits for Ramirez to be sold before the papers can be signed. http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/bologna/?action=read&idnet=emVyb2NpbnF1YW50dW5vLmNvbS02NzIy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 So they have two deals done with the money we are giving them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Mousse81: @Zoggers87 @SkySaints I think would be surprising if tomorrow is not official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 So looking at the multitude of conflicyting tweets, BS, gossip rumour etc...... As I see it Saints- Ramierz - Bologna all sorted Saints - Penerol the sticking point - originially we were going to bung them 1.5 mil euros which they were happy with - then we agreed to pay more upfront to Bologna and this is where the tweets split into two directions as far as I can see 0 so we several options as to what the sticking point is: 1) We are insisting that Bologna pay Penerol their due from what we are paying Bologna - whichj will not happen as we know 2) We are paying Bologna the extra 1.5 which means we want to renegotiate the deal with Penerol, either as a sell on or as a staged payment 3) All is agreed on the 1.5 mil payment for his 30% to penerol, but not on the mysterious addditional 600k 'training' fee which someone tweeeted was a FIFA entitlement - there appears to be confusion on this. As we saw last week - these things CAN and I believe WILL be overcome - the issue with paymnet top Bologna were resolved and they appeared alot more difficult than the remaining issue with Penerol. Keep the faith. If this does not happen, it wont be because we screwed it up or mistakes were ade, but simply because the demands made by various interested parties were simply not in our bets interests - there does come a time when you have to walk away no matter how interesting the player is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Twas bad - got the ''you're old enough to be her father'' stuff... I am now in the dog house... Gaston better fricken sign after all that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Twas bad - got the ''you're old enough to be her father'' stuff... I am now in the dog house... Gaston better fricken sign after all that.... Lol NB to Mods, if my bouncy boobs pic gets deleted or the thread you are officially putting the nail into the coffin that is the Ramirez transfer saga, give it a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Lol NB to Mods, if my bouncy boobs pic gets deleted or the thread you are officially putting the nail into the coffin that is the Ramirez transfer saga, give it a chance You are an evil man Smirky boy, evil i tell ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Lol NB to Mods, if my bouncy boobs pic gets deleted or the thread you are officially putting the nail into the coffin that is the Ramirez transfer saga, give it a chance Apparently Penarol have said they will refuse to renegotiate the 30% clause unless the post and pic remain. True. I am IKT on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese on Toast Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Apparently Penarol have said they will refuse to renegotiate the 30% clause unless the post and pic remain. True. I am IKT on this. Took me a while that one... I nearly corrected your spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurleyBurley Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Arse - just been cought by Mrs FC googling at the bouncy norks.... Same here Damn! 'Oh that's why you send so much time reading that site!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Apparently Penarol have said they will refuse to renegotiate the 30% clause unless the post and pic remain. True. I am IKT on this. After 118 pages of guff, BS, tweets and rumour, we finaly get somethjing worth logging on for. All hail the bouncing Norks - Gaston had atweet from Gaston direct its said: @Gastonramirez Devo chegar a Southampton, basta olhar para os norks belas saltando#frankscousinnotITK translated as. @Gastonramirez I must come to Southampton, Just look at those beautiful bouncing norks#frankscousinnotITK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd_barrett_saint Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 After 118 pages of guff, BS, tweets and rumour, we finaly get somethjing worth logging on for. All hail the bouncing Norks - Gaston had atweet from Gaston direct its said: @Gastonramirez Devo chegar a Southampton, basta olhar para os norks belas saltando#frankscousinnotITK translated as. @Gastonramirez I must come to Southampton, Just look at those beautiful bouncing norks#frankscousinnotITK Why is Gaston, a Spanish speaker, tweeting in Portuguese? To hide his perving over the norks from his wife? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Took me a while that one... I nearly corrected your spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Seems the time difference is the only thing that is making this deal hard!! Mousse81: @Jayrodfan2 @Zoggers87 I think this night (afternoon in Uruguay) they resolve last details with Penarol in order to be ufficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Why is Gaston, a Spanish speaker, tweeting in Portuguese? To hide his perving over the norks from his wife? ;-) ... he must be confused... so I asked this very question - he has sinse replied in Spanish @gastonramirez Tienes razón, tenía que cubrir mi culo mientras yo no quiero saber la señora que estaba comiéndose con los ojos a los norks rebote #frankscousinmakingitupaswegoalong Translated as @gastonramirez You are right, I needed to cover my arse as I dont want the lady to know I was ogling the bouncing norks #frankscousinisamazinglyknowledgeableabouttransfers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Jeese, I do not want any of these guys thanks, none of them can hit the back of the net! You underestimate the power of boring the opposition into submission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 (edited) [bANISHED BY INTERNET POLICE] Come to Southampton, Gaston! Where your every goal will be celebrated by norks, nuns, cameltoes, air hostesses, bus hostesses, weather girls and the lucky promotion lesbian santas... Edited 29 August, 2012 by Cascadia Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Twas bad - got the ''you're old enough to be her father'' stuff... I am now in the dog house... Gaston better fricken sign after all that.... Oh crap. Now I'm in trouble. I get the - wow if you're so impressed then invite her round for dinner and a lot of drinks. I'll cook. I'll watch. Then I'll take the p1ss out of you all year for lasting 6 seconds. Think that hurt more than if I'd had the Dad line TBH. Am off to finish packing and have a sulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I have translated that fore you and sent it Gaston frankscousinhasbeenonthesource: @gastonramirez Ven a Southampton, Gaston! Donde cada uno de sus objetivos será celebrada por norks, monjas, cameltoes, azafatas, azafatas de autobús, niñas climáticas y las santas promoción afortunados lesbianas ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Ummm... You may want change that photo mate... I may want to do plenty of things with that photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-til-i-die Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Can't we actually have news on here of Ramirez instead of boring, irrelevant chat by people with far too much time on their hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese on Toast Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Can't we actually have news on here of Ramirez instead of boring, irrelevant chat by people with far too much time on their hands? Go away Dune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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