Gaston Ramirez - Signs 4 Year Deal

[COYR_CHEF]

Surely if we can get a work permit for a guy from Zambia then getting one for a European wonderkid won't be an issue..

 

Just the beginning of mindless trash talk tweets that doom us until he is on the OS as an official signing..

 

Time to chill out guys..

[wireframebox]

But why would a 19 year old with 1 u20 cap get a work permit if Ramirez gets denied one?

 

Looks like he may have a Portuguese dual nationality?

[Dig Dig]

But why would a 19 year old with 1 u20 cap get a work permit if Ramirez gets denied one?

 

No idea, sounds like bull**** to me

[itchen_dan]

Mousse81: @gregvul Talks Penarol-agent-Southampton. For two days.

[MOSaint]

Looks like he may have a Portuguese dual nationality?

 

Oh yeah, just seen his transfermarkt profile.

[S-Clarke]

Mousse81: @gregvul Talks Penarol-agent-Southampton. For two days.

 

I thought, as he said, it was to do with the % to Panarol?

 

The player has to have a medical, agree a work permit and visa. Bank Holiday in the UK yesterday. Saints won't announce it until they have assurances on that side of things.

 

He seems to woffle a load of rubbish.

[itchen_dan]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11700/8029424/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[hypochondriac]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11700/8029424/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

That is a ridiculous article. Adkins did not refer to Ramirez in any way.

[S-Clarke]

Got to love the press. Grab a quote, twist it all over the place.

 

That's what they get paid for!

[Thedelldays]

That is a ridiculous article. Adkins did not refer to Ramirez in any way.

 

Goes to show that these articles and rumours should be taken with a pinch of salt

[MOSaint]

SSN are notorious for nothing articles like that and "sky sources understand" pieces that originate from morning papers or agents trying to stir up interest in clients.

[alpine_saint]

SSN are notorious for nothing articles like that and "sky sources understand" pieces that originate from morning papers or agents trying to stir up interest in clients.

 

Maybe they get a cut...........

[itchen_dan]

gregvul: @Mousse81 very complicated deal it seems. I think tomorrow night it will be official

 

Mousse81: @gregvul So much parts involved....but I still think tomorrow on Thursday official

 

I can see your view now S-Clarke. This Mousse guy seems a bit of a bull****ter to me. Stirs things up for attention?

[S-Clarke]

gregvul: @Mousse81 very complicated deal it seems. I think tomorrow night it will be official

 

Mousse81: @gregvul So much parts involved....but I still think tomorrow on Thursday official

 

I can see your view now S-Clarke. This Mousse guy seems a bit of a bull****ter to me. Stirs things up for attention?

 

Seems to be the case. As I said, all the talk about the deal being off...on...off...on has always originated from his tweets. I imagine we've kept constant dialog with Bologna in a much calmer manner that he ever suggested.

 

There will always be hitches in a big deal like this for a club like ours. It would be naive to think it would be a straight forward transfer.

 

The problem with the medium of twitter is that you have someone who can air all the linen and fabricate it to put their club in the better position. That's how I see it anyway.

[Dig Dig]

Spurs signing dembele. Very much doubt Ramirez on their radar between now and Friday

[S-Clarke]

Spurs signing dembele. Very much doubt Ramirez on their radar between now and Friday

 

There's no way any club could come in now anyway, way too late. He's either going to be here on Friday, or still at Bologna.

[Crab Lungs]

http://www.express.co.uk/football/view/342662/Gaston-Ramirez-set-to-be-announced-as-a-Saints-player

[Appy]

Maybe they get a cut...........

 

They don't.

[alpine_saint]

They don't.

 

How do you know ?

[Appy]

How do you know ?

 

I work for SSN.

[alpine_saint]

I work for SSN.

 

Firstly, I think you are on a wind-up. I could say I am an agent and I've done it and you would be none the wiser.

 

Secondly, assuming for one moment that you are not, unless you are the sports news editor or the channel CEO I find it highly unlikely that you would be privvy to such information anyway.

 

Theres not really anyway for me to determine one way or the other, so lets just leave it that I dont really believe you.

 

EDIT: Oh, if you do, how do you defend/justify reporting such sh*t-stirring reactionary drivel ?

[hypochondriac]

Firstly, I think you are on a wind-up. I could say I am an agent and I've done it and you would be none the wiser.

 

Secondly, assuming for one moment that you are not, unless you are the sports news editor or the channel CEO I find it highly unlikely that you would be privvy to such information anyway.

 

Theres not really anyway for me to determine one way or the other, so lets just leave it that I dont really believe you.

 

I believe he has posted it before.

[Appy]

Firstly, I think you are on a wind-up. I could say I am an agent and I've done it and you would be none the wiser.

 

Secondly, assuming for one moment that you are not, unless you are the sports news editor or the channel CEO I find it highly unlikely that you would be privvy to such information anyway.

 

Theres not really anyway for me to determine one way or the other, so lets just leave it that I dont really believe you.

 

EDIT: Oh, if you do, how do you defend/justify reporting such sh*t-stirring reactionary drivel ?

 

To be fair, the **** stirring on this site is mainly down to you, I couldn't care less if a sad individual like you believes I work at SSN, as I know there are various posters on here that know I do.

[hypochondriac]

To be fair, the **** stirring on this site is mainly down to you, I couldn't care less if a sad individual like you believes I work at SSN, as I know there are various posters on here that know I do.

 

As I said, I know for a fact that you have mentioned it in the past. As always alpine thinks he knows best and fails badly.

[SaintBobby]

Don't get me wrong.

 

If we sign Ramirez, I'll punch the air.

 

But I'm starting to hope we don't.

 

Smells like Delgado triple plus.

 

I'd be happy to be gazzumped...and even happier to be proved wrong!

[hypochondriac]

Don't get me wrong.

 

If we sign Ramirez, I'll punch the air.

 

But I'm starting to hope we don't.

 

Smells like Delgado triple plus.

I'd be happy to be gazzumped...and even happier to be proved wrong!

 

Based on what?

[There when Franny scored]

http://www.zerocinquantuno.com/?action=read&idnotizia=6715

 

D'Ippolito: "Problems for the sale of Ramirez of Bologna Alfaro"

 

A lalaziosiamonoi.it, Vincenzo D'Ippolito speaks of problems for Ramirez to Southampton and consequently the Bologna could no longer afford Floccari if the money did not arrive from England. Hence the interest in Emiliano Alfaro, Uruguayan striker for Lazio: "There is a recent interest of Bologna, in the case fails to materialize transfer Floccari. As far as I know, there were problems for the release of Ramirez"

 

http://www.tuttojuve.com/?action=read&idnotizia=107713

 

"Still problems for the transfer of Ramirez"

 

"The negotiation between Gaston Ramirez and Southampton seems to have assumed the characteristics of a soap opera, before the player had announced an agreement with the English club, but arrived on time the blunt denial of Bologna, now that instead the two teams seemed to have reached the 'agreement is replaced by a new problem. As reported by La Gazzetta dello Sport, the Peñarol which holds 30% of the card the player has not yet accepted the proposal of Southampton, again blocking the transfer of the player, tried for a long time"

Edited 29 August, 2012 by There when Franny scored

[SaintBobby]

Based on what?

 

Based on my sense of smell.

 

If you want actual stats from Football Manager, ask MLG.

[Suomi Saint]

This is all becoming rather dull. I would have expected that Saints had done their homework on who owns what with regard to Ramirez before they embarked on this soap opera. The trouble is that it is all Latinos involved in this process.....Italians, Swiss Italians, and Spaniards (Uruguayans). All emotion, double dealing and brinkmanship. Personally, I couldn't care less if he signs or not, as there is no guarantee he is actually any good. A lot of money for a 21 year old, and ask yourself why have no other top clubs gone in for him if he's that good?

[saintmonkey1979]

This is all becoming rather dull. I would have expected that Saints had done their homework on who owns what with regard to Ramirez before they embarked on this soap opera. The trouble is that it is all Latinos involved in this process.....Italians, Swiss Italians, and Spaniards (Uruguayans). All emotion, double dealing and brinkmanship. Personally, I couldn't care less if he signs or not, as there is no guarantee he is actually any good. A lot of money for a 21 year old, and ask yourself why have no other top clubs gone in for him if he's that good?

 

Maybe because nobody else can be arsed to deal with the ball ache involved. We've all seen what a tangled mess it is after all

[david in sweden]

maybe Ladbrokes will take odds and this thread making it to 6000 ..before he puts pen to paper...?

[JoeShmoe]

Must be getting close now to this not being done in time

[david in sweden]

This is all becoming rather dull. I would have expected that Saints had done their homework on who owns what with regard to Ramirez before they embarked on this soap opera. The trouble is that it is all Latinos involved in this process.....Italians, Swiss Italians, and Spaniards (Uruguayans). All emotion, double dealing and brinkmanship. Personally, I couldn't care less if he signs or not, as there is no guarantee he is actually any good. A lot of money for a 21 year old, and ask yourself why have no other top clubs gone in for him if he's that good?

 

 

I think you've answered your own question here.

[Avenue Saint]

gregvul: @Mousse81 very complicated deal it seems. I think tomorrow night it will be official

 

Mousse81: @gregvul So much parts involved....but I still think tomorrow on Thursday official

 

I can see your view now S-Clarke. This Mousse guy seems a bit of a bull****ter to me. Stirs things up for attention?

 

I said a few days ago, this guy is an idiot.

[Glasgow_Saint]

ahhhhhhhh!!

[John Smith]

FWIW, my take on this is that Saints are making an effort to acquire a 'Big' signing. Cortese and his team have not had to deal on this level before and need to get used to it if they really want to make their dreams come to fruition (ie, really mean to push for Champions League - no, I'm not dreaming, just remembering what was claimed). It is a tough one as when you need to deal with many of these South American 'Superstars', more and more are having companies own at least part of their contract permanantly. This is new to Cortese. Also, I can see why he chose Italy to do Business with, as Cortese is probably more comfortable dealing in that culture and is very aware of the issues that arise and hopefully how to deal with them. The question he must ask is when is it too much hasstle and when does it become too much money?

 

IF Ramirez comes, it will be an important purchase and not only for 'on the field' matters. If he turns out to be great, then fantastic, if not, then not a complete waste of time.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

I'm pretty sure Simon Peach wouldn't say it was almost done yesterday if it wasn't. Hopefully we'll have some good news today or tomorrow.

[sotonist]

FWIW, my take on this is that Saints are making an effort to acquire a 'Big' signing. Cortese and his team have not had to deal on this level before and need to get used to it if they really want to make their dreams come to fruition (ie, really mean to push for Champions League - no, I'm not dreaming, just remembering what was claimed). It is a tough one as when you need to deal with many of these South American 'Superstars', more and more are having companies own at least part of their contract permanantly. This is new to Cortese. Also, I can see why he chose Italy to do Business with, as Cortese is probably more comfortable dealing in that culture and is very aware of the issues that arise and hopefully how to deal with them. The question he must ask is when is it too much hasstle and when does it become too much money?

 

IF Ramirez comes, it will be an important purchase and not only for 'on the field' matters. If he turns out to be great, then fantastic, if not, then not a complete waste of time.

While he's not been in charge of a club before, wasn't Cortese's background in football finance?

[COYR_CHEF]

Hey guys I'm an Australian saints fan, u guys would be more in thr loop,

 

If we Were to sign Gaston, when would it be? Next few hours, 12 hours, tomorrow?

 

I've been hitting F5 a lot this week haha..

[skintsaint]

Hey guys I'm an Australian saints fan, u guys would be more in thr loop,

 

If we Were to sign Gaston, when would it be? Next few hours, 12 hours, tomorrow?

 

I've been hitting F5 a lot this week haha..

 

he's always signing tomorrow...

[Bucks Saint]

he's always signing tomorrow...

 

I said 120 pages before he signs......

[alpine_saint]

To be fair, the **** stirring on this site is mainly down to you, I couldn't care less if a sad individual like you believes I work at SSN, as I know there are various posters on here that know I do.

 

Ok, fair enough. Hypo says you've mentioned it in the past unconnected to my comment, so I'll accept that.

 

Still doesnt mean you can definitively say no-one in the sports news editorial team isnt on a cut. But it was a rhetorical question, so yes, the rumour-mongering is more likely just down to lazy p*ss-poor sensationalist journalism synonimous with Murdoch organisations.

[edprice1984]

Hey guys I'm an Australian saints fan, u guys would be more in thr loop,

 

If we Were to sign Gaston, when would it be? Next few hours, 12 hours, tomorrow?

 

I've been hitting F5 a lot this week haha..

Surely you should know, you are in the future!

[hypochondriac]

Ok, fair enough. Hypo says you've mentioned it in the past unconnected to my comment, so I'll accept that.

 

Still doesnt mean you can definitively say no-one in the sports news editorial team isnt on a cut. But it was a rhetorical question, so yes, the rumour-mongering is more likely just down to lazy p*ss-poor sensationalist journalism synonimous with Murdoch organisations.

 

I'm honoured you would take my word for it TBH...

[wireframebox]

Ok, fair enough. Hypo says you've mentioned it in the past unconnected to my comment, so I'll accept that.

 

Still doesnt mean you can definitively say no-one in the sports news editorial team isnt on a cut. But it was a rhetorical question, so yes, the rumour-mongering is more likely just down to lazy p*ss-poor sensationalist journalism synonimous with Murdoch organisations.

 

...driven by our lustful need for up-to-the-second morsels of news and information?

[Minty]

On the BBC article about Mayuka (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19406411) was this line:

 

Adkins has also confirmed the club is continuing its attempts to sign Gaston Ramirez from Italian side Bologna.

 

I must've missed that, and I'd be very surprised if that was the case... anyone shed any light?

[manji]

On the BBC article about Mayuka (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19406411) was this line:

 

 

 

I must've missed that, and I'd be very surprised if that was the case... anyone shed any light?

He sorta did on the post-Stevenage interview on Saints Player. I reckon thats where it came from.

[Saint Garrett]

http://audioboo.fm/boos/937635-nigel-adkins-speaking-to-solentsport-after-saints-4-1-league-cup-win-at-stevenage

[Minty]

He sorta did on the post-Stevenage interview on Saints Player. I reckon thats where it came from.

 

Ah, not heard that yet, ta.

[SaintNeil90]

It was more of a generic sit on the fence comment from Adkins. Neither confirmed or denied anything and just said we will basically go about our business quietly and only comment when a transfer is done.