angelman Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 with the work permit and 75% thing, I believe that young players do have a certain dispensation and potential is taken into account. Or is that balls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I'm looking at this " 75% thing " every time. Surely it has to be taken in context. Not every country plays a lot of games every year.....but 75% might mean, maybe only 2 games. We understand the principle is that players with " lesser talent " don't come into the game in the place of home players, but it doesn't work well. top Swedish clubs sign dozens of foreign talents every season , often African players but never seem to encounter this problem... The '75% thing' is a UK Border Agency rule. I don't believe it's enforced in any other countries? http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandRegulations/FARegulations/NewsAndFeatures/2009/work_permits_players.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 with the work permit and 75% thing, I believe that young players do have a certain dispensation and potential is taken into account. Or is that balls? Pretty sure that only comes into effect if you are a so called big club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 (edited) with the work permit and 75% thing, I believe that young players do have a certain dispensation and potential is taken into account. Or is that balls? From the FA guidelines; 1. A player must have played for his country in at least 75% of its competitive “A” team matches he was available for selection, during the 2 years preceding the date of the application; I'd assume that if a player was selected for an international youth squad, then he wouldn't be considered available for selection for the 'A' squad? Edited 28 August, 2012 by wireframebox meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 danbsfc: @DL_corriere When will the deal go through? Today? Tomorrow? DL_corriere: @danbsfc hoping today DL_corriere: tra #ramirez e il southampton manca solo l'accordo sul 30% della plusvalenza del penarol.saints e uruguaiani parlano. bentancur sta a londra DL_corriere: # ramirez between southampton and lacks only the agreement on 30% of the gain of penarol.saints and Uruguayans speak. Bentancur is in london DL_corriere: #ramirez up to now it is still missing just the 'ok' between saints and penarol. agent bentancur stays in london DL_corriere: @danbsfc no medical yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 SkySaintsNews: @DL_corriere @danbsfc but you reckon the deal will be sorted by tonight? DL_corriere: @SkySaintsNews @danbsfc that's the mission. bologna wants the deal completed today, they have other deals to do now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Announcement expected Thursday it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 SkySaintsNews: @DL_corriere @danbsfc but you reckon the deal will be sorted by tonight? DL_corriere: @SkySaintsNews @danbsfc that's the mission. bologna wants the deal completed today, they have other deals to do now Hopefully we do as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Announcement expected Thursday it seems. That does seem to be the way this is going. Get all the contractual issues etc sorted today, do a medical (either later today or tomorrow morning) and then announcement sometime tomorrow afternoon. Looking good so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 That does seem to be the way this is going. Get all the contractual issues etc sorted today, do a medical (either later today or tomorrow morning) and then announcement sometime tomorrow afternoon. Looking good so far. Tomorrow is Wednesday though;) Imagine medical etc would be tomorrow then annoucement Thurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Tomorrow is Wednesday though;) Imagine medical etc would be tomorrow then annoucement Thurs. haha! lost track of days due to bank holiday!! yeah contract and agreements today, medical tomorrow and then fly to England for announcement / press releases late Wednesday / early Thursday. That sound better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 You weren't on Glasgow Saint's ITK list though More like a WUM list. Where is Lens? You said he would 100% sign. You should be bannished to the UI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 haha! lost track of days due to bank holiday!! yeah contract and agreements today, medical tomorrow and then fly to England for announcement / press releases late Wednesday / early Thursday. That sound better Perfect - lets hope it all goes through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 (edited) More like a WUM list. Where is Lens? You said he would 100% sign. You should be bannished to the UI Can only apologise. My PSV Oppo has been flogged. I also said Buttner, Jemal, Fontaine and Elliott Ward were signing and for that I blame Cortese - especially Fontaine, the guy had a broken leg so of course we should have signed him FFS. He would have been better on one leg than Fonte on two. Edited 28 August, 2012 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Speak for yourself Minty......I'm the last bastion of truth and reason on this forum You weren't on Glasgow Saint's ITK list though Just enforces what he said then doesn't it :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 haha! lost track of days due to bank holiday!! yeah contract and agreements today, medical tomorrow and then fly to England for announcement / press releases late Wednesday / early Thursday. That sound better Wouldn't the medical be being done over here, aren't the usually done at SUH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Wouldn't the medical be being done over here, aren't the usually done at SUH That was my initial thought however it was reported that we had sent some medical staff out there to conduct it as it would save time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I'm just glad I nailed my colours to the mast early on and am in the 42.66% that are currently looking like they will be correct!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Can only apologise. My PSV Oppo has been flogged. I also said Buttner, Jemal, Fontaine and Elliott Ward were signing and for that I blame Cortese - especially Fontaine, the guy had a broken leg so of course we should have signed him FFS. He would have been better on one leg than Fonte on two. I was so glad we didn't sign Fontaine. Even outside the injury the guy really isn't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Wouldn't the medical be being done over here, aren't the usually done at SUH Reports yesterday suggest we sent medical staff to Rome yesterday in order to get the medical out the way. If true, it will have already been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 That was my initial thought however it was reported that we had sent some medical staff out there to conduct it as it would save time. Reports yesterday suggest we sent medical staff to Rome yesterday in order to get the medical out the way. If true, it will have already been done. Obviously the plethora of twitter "translations" that we've had has made me skim read them as usually they are a load of gash. Must do better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 SkySaintsNews: @Mousse81 @Jayrodfan2 Talks going well? Mousse81: @SkySaintsNews @Jayrodfan2 I suppose so....New updates this evening on the afternoon Bologna supporters are going to dispute the chairman SkySaintsNews: @Mousse81 @Jayrodfan2 dispute what? Mousse81: @SkySaintsNews @Jayrodfan2 Dispute for selling Ramirez, the last one of the star (Mudingayi, Gillet, Di Vaio) of the team that has been sold Seems the Bologna fans reall arent happy! Would be the same I suppose if we sold Lallana, Lambert, Schneiderlin etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 SkySaintsNews: @Mousse81 @Jayrodfan2 Talks going well? Mousse81: @SkySaintsNews @Jayrodfan2 I suppose so....New updates this evening on the afternoon Bologna supporters are going to dispute the chairman SkySaintsNews: @Mousse81 @Jayrodfan2 dispute what? Mousse81: @SkySaintsNews @Jayrodfan2 Dispute for selling Ramirez, the last one of the star (Mudingayi, Gillet, Di Vaio) of the team that has been sold Seems the Bologna fans reall arent happy! Would be the same I suppose if we sold Lallana, Lambert, Schneiderlin etc. what like we were not happy when all our stars went to stave off administration, might not like it but have to put up with it if they want their club to survive. Christ they aint the Skates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 It's currently a couple of hundred yards off Antibes.....if that helps at all? Yeah, and is Ramierez on board, metaphorically speaking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrimd Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 And so it begins. Another thread hijacked by some who seem to think that if they do not tell us their point of view every other hour then we might forget. We get it. You think we should buy players earlier. You think people who actually think NC is doing a good job are incapable of thinking he can make a mistake. Please, Mods, Start a sticky for each of these trolls, then when they feal the urge to tell us for the thousandth time that we are a yoyo club, they have a place to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 So anyway... Is he signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Hooper to Fulham is latest i heard today. FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 he'd better be a half decent player after all this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Troy Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 im not a mod so apologise for seeming like telling people what to do etc but this is the Gaston Ramirez thread. If i want to ignore people on the "lack of transfer activity thread" i can do but i cannot ignore what is meant for another thread on this thread when i am simply trying to find out whats going on with this transfer. Its easy for threads to get sidetracked and people often have to respond when slagged off but there are threads relevant for the above discussions and its f***ing boring reading about it when you dont want to. Thge forum is simple - i pay my fiver to read the threads i want to not to read the views of some people about the same issue on every single thread. PLease stop ruining this board. If i want to be a happy clappy then i have the right to - if i want to read everything i have the right to - if i want to be negative i can do but please put it in the right places so people can read what they pay to ps i do see the irony of posting this on this thread but it is relavent to this thread now lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I have moved a huge part of this mornings debate that didn't actually relate to gaston Ramirez to here. Please stay on topic. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?39721-The-Ramirez-Off-Topic-Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 How are we ever going to get to 200 pages if posts keep being moved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 @HusseinMarhoon: @SkySaintsNews @danbsfc the player's will was decisive. It's just a matter of time now @SkySaintsNews: @HusseinMarhoon @danbsfc So whats left to be done? @HusseinMarhoon: @SkySaintsNews @danbsfc formalities. Let's wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Why on earth does anybody really think they are getting the genuine low-down and events of this transfer saga on this bloody thread ??? Where would you prefer any updates on this transfer ?! If you dont care for this thread, then don't post on it and take things off topic. As I mentioned, it's almost like you would rather we just failed. Are you not excited by this potential transfer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Quite some job by Cortese to sell the club to Ramirez, regardless of the financials offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Alpine, please don't reply unless it is about Ramirez or is done so in TMS - Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 @HusseinMarhoon: @SkySaintsNews @danbsfc the player's will was decisive. It's just a matter of time now @SkySaintsNews: @HusseinMarhoon @danbsfc So whats left to be done? @HusseinMarhoon: @SkySaintsNews @danbsfc formalities. Let's wait and see ie I have no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMPR Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Quite some job by Cortese to sell the club to Ramirez, regardless of the financials offered. £70k a week aint a hard sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Alpine, please don't reply Would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 £70k a week aint a hard sell We could of got 2x Ben Haim's for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 £70k a week aint a hard sell It isn't £70K a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 £70k a week aint a hard sell lol, he's not gooing to be earning £70k a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 £70k a week aint a hard sell He isn't going to be on £70k p/w, not sure why you still believe that. In any case Ramirez is better than John Utaka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 £70k a week aint a hard sell According to some reports its a lot less and he would want to go to a team that he feels can progress, he hasnt really achieved anything in his career so far so wouldnt want to be totally off the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 £38k + bonuses is what I heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I wonder if any players with recent(ish) new contracts have a "match the highest earner" clause? Could end up being expensive.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I wonder if any players with recent(ish) new contracts have a "match the highest earner" clause? Could end up being expensive.. You can bet your bottom dollar that anyone who has such a clause is already on £38k + bonuses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 SimonPeach: I understand the Gaston Ramirez to #SaintsFC transfer is almost done. Just about getting it over the line now (easier said than done, eh?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 SimonPeach: I understand the Gaston Ramirez to #SaintsFC transfer is almost done. Just about getting it over the line now (easier said than done, eh?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentley Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 @SimonPeach I understand the Gaston Ramirez to #SaintsFC transfer is almost done. Just about getting it over the line now (easier said than done, eh?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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