Saint Garrett Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 If Bologna own 30% of him then I'm sure they'd have no problem with pocketing 30% of the transfer fee....can't see them having a problem with it.
dubai_phil Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 So, the big question now is.... Which was the smokescreen? The Matt Phillips bid to flush out Ramirez, or the Ramirez bid to flush out Phillips....
pedg Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 If Bologna own 30% of him then I'm sure they'd have no problem with pocketing 30% of the transfer fee....can't see them having a problem with it. might be some discussion on things like sell on fee's and the like as both clubs would have to agree to the same percentage, etc.
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Sensible move, waiting until the end of the window before flinging our cash around. Exciting possibilities, which is a bit mad because I had no idea who he was yesterday. Lots of people getting carried away, but that's ok... I wonder if we're going for Phillips as well. If Ramirez signs we can play Lallana on the left again if needs be. Anyway, keen on us signing him, he looks decent, costs loads and has marquee potential. I wonder if this is the end of our "sensible potential" policy and Adkins will start to be out of his comfort zone?
Foxstone Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 A real statement here whether it comes off or not - A strong message to everybody that we are serious in building and consolidating our place in the Prem. Kudo's to NC if he lands this one!
JustMike Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Sensible move, waiting until the end of the window before flinging our cash around. Exciting possibilities, which is a bit mad because I had no idea who he was yesterday. Lots of people getting carried away, but that's ok... I wonder if we're going for Phillips as well. If Ramirez signs we can play Lallana on the left again if needs be. Anyway, keen on us signing him, he looks decent, costs loads and has marquee potential. I wonder if this is the end of our "sensible potential" policy and Adkins will start to be out of his comfort zone? I think NA has the metal to not let that bother him. We all need to be tested outside of the zone and I believe he will relish the challenge
dellboypete Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 is this as well as the Official Matt Phillips bid?
derry Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Anybody know any Uruguayans that have been a success in this country? Uruguayans internationally are more noted for a lack of discipline and sometimes cynical physical behaviour. Liverpool have been treading on eggshells with Suarez.
Bearsy Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Anybody know any Uruguayans that have been a success in this country? Poyet
Saint Garrett Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 I'm sure he has been assessed as the right sort of character we want to have in and around the dressing room, as this seems to be important to NC and NA.
Minty Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 I wonder if this is the end of our "sensible potential" policy and Adkins will start to be out of his comfort zone? Bit of a strange thing to say... Sensible doesn't mean 'less than £xm', sensible means that it is sustainable in the context of our overall budget and business plan. Obviously we don't know what that budget is but all the signs thus far have indicated that we'll do things the right way and not make irresponsible financial risks. Adkins, like all managers, aspires to manage better players and a club at the top level. This is just part of that journey. His comfort zone, i.e the place he's probably most familiar with, is the Championship, so he's already out of it in some respects, but I bet no one is happier than him to be moving forward and I for one don't think he'll have any trouble. There will be tests along the way but he's not given us any reason to doubt his prowess thus far and I'm not going to start now.
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 I think NA has the metal to not let that bother him. We all need to be tested outside of the zone and I believe he will relish the challenge I think you're probably right, but we all knew/hoped there would be a time when we stopped signing English kids he could develop and started signing potential world stars. Or random young Uruguayans who looked good at the Olympics for a start... Trying to remain sensible about this, but a bit excited if it happens. Can we get Lens too?
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Anybody know any Uruguayans that have been a success in this country? Uruguayans internationally are more noted for a lack of discipline and sometimes cynical physical behaviour. Liverpool have been treading on eggshells with Suarez. Welcome to 1986.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 OMFG... Gaston Ramirez says Southampton have agreed a club record deal with Bologna to sign him. The 21-year-old had been approached by Tottenham, Liverpool and Inter Milan earlier this summer. But now newly-promoted Southampton are on the verge of a huge coup by landing the midfielder, who has just played at the Olympics for Uruguay. Saints boss Nigel Adkins was looking for a big name attacking midfielder and had failed with a bid for PSV Eindhoven's Dutch international Jeremain Lens, but he switched his attentions to Ramirez and looks to have got his man. Southampton chairman Nicola Cortese has brokered the deal, which is believed to be worth €15million (£11.8million). Ramirez has confirmed he is ready to fly to England to conclude a move to St Mary's. "Bologna will tell me on Friday if I can move," he told the Corriere dello Sport. "The truth is that I think, yes, this time I am moving. Bologna has reached an agreement with Southampton, and there are only a few details to be found but the agreement in principle is done." Ramirez admits that Southampton have offered him very good terms, and he is happy to become a key player for them. "The English club has reached an agreement with me, it is the classic offer that you cannot refuse for my life as a whole and my family. "But they believe in me in every way, I will be essential and above all they are going to grow. Southampton is a newly promoted team in the English top-flight but they will become a big team in years to come. "They have told me they are going to build and that is very stimulating." 08.32: Bloody hell - Southampton mean business. According to Sky Sports News they have agreed a fee of around £11.8million with Bologna for Gaston Ramirez. Since Spurs, Liverpool and a bunch of other clubs were thought to be chasing the Uruguayan, that would be quite the coup.
JustMike Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 I think you're probably right, but we all knew/hoped there would be a time when we stopped signing English kids he could develop and started signing potential world stars. Or random young Uruguayans who looked good at the Olympics for a start... Trying to remain sensible about this, but a bit excited if it happens. Can we get Lens too? just watched a couple of youtube vids on him, looks quality! Yes to Lens as well! Still think we will get LB and couple of CB too
yorkie Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Comfort zone? I think the players we are chasing are all young and hungry with no agenda or big agents. Saints don't have a good history of picking South Americans - but this lad had played in Europe and shows a degree of pedigree. He sounds like he has the right attitude and fits with the Adkins mould. Roll on seeing him in a SAints shirt on the OS...seeing is believing!
Dig Dig Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Anybody know any Uruguayans that have been a success in this country? Uruguayans internationally are more noted for a lack of discipline and sometimes cynical physical behaviour. Liverpool have been treading on eggshells with Suarez. Racist
derry Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Welcome to 1986. What happened in 1986 apart from the big storm?
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Bit of a strange thing to say... Sensible doesn't mean 'less than £xm', sensible means that it is sustainable in the context of our overall budget and business plan. Obviously we don't know what that budget is but all the signs thus far have indicated that we'll do things the right way and not make irresponsible financial risks. Adkins, like all managers, aspires to manage better players and a club at the top level. This is just part of that journey. His comfort zone, i.e the place he's probably most familiar with, is the Championship, so he's already out of it in some respects, but I bet no one is happier than him to be moving forward and I for one don't think he'll have any trouble. There will be tests along the way but he's not given us any reason to doubt his prowess thus far and I'm not going to start now. I, unlike most others, remain convinced that we've got free reign on the Liebherr billions and are just being sensible at the way we step up. It seems like every time there's any doubt we sign someone impressive who you'd expect to take us up a level. Last year it was Cork, then Tadanari Lee. Now... could well be Ramirez. There's a media requirement thing for all Prem clubs later today apparently... basically 20 press conferences. We may hope to unveil then.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Haha 'offer theat you cannot refuse' eh?
This Charming Man Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Anybody know any Uruguayans that have been a success in this country? Uruguayans internationally are more noted for a lack of discipline and sometimes cynical physical behaviour. Liverpool have been treading on eggshells with Suarez. What a ridiculous post. If I was to have posted something stereotyping black people like you've just done with Uruguayans, I'd currently be serving a ban.
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 What happened in 1986 apart from the big storm? Uruguay were dirty as hell at the World Cup. Ask Strachan... Thought the big storm (if you mean the Michael Fish one) was later than that.
Saint Charlie Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Racist Thats a bit heavy. It was a crass comment to generalise the behaviour of a nation on one person but I don't think it was racism.
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Comfort zone? I think the players we are chasing are all young and hungry with no agenda or big agents. Saints don't have a good history of picking South Americans - but this lad had played in Europe and shows a degree of pedigree. He sounds like he has the right attitude and fits with the Adkins mould. Roll on seeing him in a SAints shirt on the OS...seeing is believing! If we assume Adkins' comfort zone is dealing with under 27s with potential we're still fine. Dunno what his Spanish is like but his Japanese seems to be ok...
View From The Top Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Jesus, we're not going to pull this off are we??
Big Bad Bob Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 What happened in 1986 apart from the big storm? That was in '87 Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2
ladysaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Now we know where all the money from the parking has gone, nice one if it gets confirmed.
shurlock Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Favourite comment on youtube: HAHAHAH U REALLY THINK HE WOULD GO TO SOUTHAMPTON WTF!!! AHHAHHAAH SORRY BOYS BUT THESE KIND OF PLAYERS ARE FOR THE BIG BOYS LOL MrBizzy89 in reply to Naderpa (Show the comment) 8 hours ago
pressingon Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 What happened in 1986 apart from the big storm? As Ken Bruce would say on Pop Master : "One Year Out!" 1987 (well in Hampshire anyway)
JustMike Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Now we know where all the money from the parking has gone, nice one if it gets confirmed. lol yes, all of a sudden I dont mind paying £1
Saint Charlie Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Hopefully we can just get it over the line ASAP. Assume he will require a work permit too and that always takes ages.
This Charming Man Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Uruguay were dirty as hell at the World Cup. Ask Strachan... Thought the big storm (if you mean the Michael Fish one) was later than that. Good. Tough, physical players is what's needed in this country. He should fit in just fine over here.
Minty Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Favourite comment on youtube: HAHAHAH U REALLY THINK HE WOULD GO TO SOUTHAMPTON WTF!!! AHHAHHAAH SORRY BOYS BUT THESE KIND OF PLAYERS ARE FOR THE BIG BOYS LOL MrBizzy89 in reply to Naderpa (Show the comment) 8 hours ago There are some great comments underneath that video... gonna be some mightily f00ked-off teenage keyboard warriors if we do sign him.
Minty Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 I'm not usually one for prompting this kinda thing but if he did sign, surely his middle name needs to be used in a song...? Gastón Ezequiel Ramírez Pereyra
derry Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Racist I think you should take a look at yourself, this is not racism. Exactly what was Suarez charged with over Evra? My comment was as a result of a perception over the years of Uruguayan football team's behaviour when things go against them. Forlan was a poor example, he was an outstanding character that cared for a handicapped sister but at MU wasn't that successful until he went to Villareal. Poyet was a great success but an attitude waiting to happen.
Webby Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Amazeballs I think is the word. Where does this leave Punch and Guly? And surely we'll drop the pursuit of Phillips if we sign Ramirez, no?
shurlock Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 There are some great comments underneath that video... gonna be some mightily f00ked-off teenage keyboard warriors if we do sign him. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands mourning in South East Asia...
merrimd Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Hopefully we can just get it over the line ASAP. Assume he will require a work permit too and that always takes ages. Aged 21 with 9 full international caps - i would say that would get a rubber stamp as quickly as is possible.
Saint Garrett Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Amazeballs I think is the word. Where does this leave Punch and Guly? And surely we'll drop the pursuit of Phillips if we sign Ramirez, no? Swap Punch for Phillips. Then we have Guly, Lee, De Ridder, Lallana, Ramirez, Phillips fighting over those 3 spots and J-Rod, Lambert and Sharp over the striker position.
derry Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 What a ridiculous post. If I was to have posted something stereotyping black people like you've just done with Uruguayans, I'd currently be serving a ban. Talking about an international teams behaviour isn't racist. There have been many episodes over the years when Uruguayan teams have resorted to kicking out when things have gone against them. Additionally there hasn't been many Uruguyans that have been successful in this country over the years.
Minty Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 I can see De Ridder falling out of favour quite quickly unless he really steps up and starts to deliver. IF we sign Ramirez that is.
itchen_dan Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 tancredipalmeri: Gaston Ramirez this morning met his teammates at Bologna training camp saying them goodbye and collecting his things. A flight waits for him
View From The Top Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 I can see De Ridder falling out of favour quite quickly unless he really steps up and starts to deliver. IF we sign Ramirez that is. I fully expect SDR to be out on loan in the NPC. A pity has he clearly has ability but his decision making is woeful.
Gingeletiss Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 What happened in 1986 apart from the big storm? Haha...just had visions of the Vicar of Dibley there.
derry Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 As Ken Bruce would say on Pop Master : "One Year Out!" 1987 (well in Hampshire anyway) I was commuting to Aberdeen at the time and was there that night.
itchen_dan Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 tancredipalmeri: In last 48 hours Southampton made the right bid:Gaston Ramirez joins Southampton for around 19m €: 13m € to Bologna, 6m € to Penarol
dubai_phil Posted 17 August, 2012 Posted 17 August, 2012 Tancredi Palmeri @tancredipalmeri Gaston Ramirez this morning met his teammates at Bologna training camp saying them goodbye and collecting his things. A flight waits for him yeah ok Dan the string on the tin can is longer so took an extra minute to reach my feed:)
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