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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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f*ck me this is a huge signing. mad. cant believe we have got him. kind of a agree with this tweet football has gone a bit mad! but loving it.

 

We haven't yet. Could be a few hurdles to jump over yet.

MOSaint

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Yeah he still has to get through the medical and contract details will have to be sorted etc, but with news of a breakthrough between the us and Bologna it feels like after a week of uncertainty a huge hurdle has been cleared on this.

SuperMikey

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Thank f*ck for that. Think he'll be a massive improvement to our squad, although that link says that he needs a work permit: would he get one in time for Man Utd if we signed him tomorrow?

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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Thank f*ck for that. Think he'll be a massive improvement to our squad, although that link says that he needs a work permit: would he get one in time for Man Utd if we signed him tomorrow?

 

No idea. Won't make a huge amount of difference I thought he was injured?

MOSaint

MOSaint

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http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandRegulations/FARegulations/NewsAndFeatures/2009/work_permits_players.aspx

 

relevant bits:

 

1. A player must have played for his country in at least 75% of its competitive “A” team matches he was available for selection, during the 2 years preceding the date of the application; - not sure he has

 

2. The player’s country must be at or above 70th place in the official FIFA World Rankings when averaged over the 2 years preceding the date of the application - fits

 

Will probably need to go to a Panel, which means he needs to fill the following;

 

The panel will normally consist of representatives from the relevant football governing bodies together with up to three independent experts. The FA will endeavour to ensure there are no conflicts of interest between the independent experts and the applicant club. If the applicant

club wishes to object to the involvement of any of the independent experts it must do so in writing at least 24 hours before the panel hearing, explaining their reasons for the objection.

 

The panel's terms of reference are:

 

- To consider whether the player is of the highest calibre.

 

- To consider whether the player is able to contribute significantly to the development of the game at the top level in England.

 

He'll probably get approved by a panel, however I don't know how long that takes.

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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Lets not forget Rahdi was given a WP on appeal. Clearly of the highest calibre.

 

I never understood why that was so complicated to sort. He'd played in England for 5 or 6 years, for 2 different clubs. Represented Tunisia regularly. Why they refused the original permit is beyond me.

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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It has been clarified that Penarol's 30% ownership will now become a 30% sell on clause for any future transfer as part of the deal to take Gaston Ramirez to Southampton.
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Saint-Armstrong

Saint-Armstrong

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How long's he been in Italy? Might qualify for Italian citizenship?

 

Has he got ant European blood in him? Might not need a WP if that were the case.

 

Nope, no European blood. Been it Italy since 2010. Plays for Uruguay who are ranked 4th in the world. Shouldn't be an issue.

patred44

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you know it makes sense ! done, according to this.....

 

 

 

 

Southampton have clinched a deal for Bologna winger Gaston Ramirez.

 

After several weeks of bitter negotiations, Saints were convinced by Ramirez's agent, Pablo Betancourt, to pay 70 per cent of his €14 million up front to close the agreement.

 

Sky Italia says the deal is now settled and the Uruguayan will be in Rome today to finalise his visa and immigration papers ahead of flying to the south coast.

 

 

 

Read more at http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/southampton-clinch-bitter-deal-bologna-rebel-gaston-ramirez-3475191?utm_source=feed_featured#P2KcpKlDBGcj3Kxh.99

 

before the usual suspects whine to get this thread closed it's on the other thread..but buried in amongst all the *****ing arguing... you can find it somwhere on page 95

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Dig Dig

Dig Dig

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Buried in among the other thread?

 

Currently It's the last post on page 95. Not difficult for people to find is it? Is not even a good source and says nothing more than what people have already posted from Twitter.

patred44

patred44

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http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/ramirez-il-southampton-ora-e-vicinissimo/

 

google translation...

 

A sudden turn, decisive. The agent of Gaston Ramirez, Pablo Bentancur, is in England. It 'party yesterday morning, after an intense exchange of e-mail with Southampton. He convinced the president to pay 14 million for 70% of the card of the player. Abandoning his commission just to close the deal. 30% of the tag will remain so at Penarol and the player's agents. It 'a story he worked on in the late evening Peppe Di Stefano, confirmations are not lacking. According to sources close to Ramirez filters, then the deal is already closed. Expect only the last bank guarantees, performance bonds on the agreed amount, but this time missing very little. Only the latest details. Ramirez is in fact outside the EU, will serve a work permit to play in England tomorrow will be in Rome for the visa, between Thursday and Friday flight in England. The medical examination would otherwise provided in Italy, with the staff of the Saints arriving in the next few hours. When Ramirez has now left Bologna.

patred44

patred44

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Simon Peach ‏@SimonPeach

Italian journalist @dimarziotweet is reporting Gaston Ramirez's move to #SaintsFC is almost complete. The standstill appears to be over.

supersonic

supersonic

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Both articles were posted at about quarter past 1 this morning. That's dedicated journalism for you. Hopefully we'll see some developments today. He looks a cracking player on YouTube, but then again, so do most people

Fitzhugh Fella

Fitzhugh Fella

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If he ends up signing lets hope it won't be an anti climax of the Skacel kind.

 

Wise words Toomer but somehow Burley and Skacel aren't in the same League in terms of class and ability. Fingers crossed he will be a massive boost to us but we still need some bog standard old fashioned Premiership defenders and, dare I say it, some pace out wide. Far too one-dimensional on Saturday.

Saint Without a Halo

Saint Without a Halo

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Jeez go away for 4 days and this thread was STILL running!

 

Well, hope this morning's news is true, 'coz after Saturday we need something on the left & it ain't JRod

 

Just the Left? I was there too looked like more than just the left to me! A better defence Pace and and a bit more creativity required, the ability to win the ball back too could have been useful seconfd half! lets hope this deal gets sorted ASAP!

Saint Without a Halo

Saint Without a Halo

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I never understood why that was so complicated to sort. He'd played in England for 5 or 6 years, for 2 different clubs. Represented Tunisia regularly. Why they refused the original permit is beyond me.

 

Because we were in league 1 and they assume anyone playing league 1 standard is not special and therefore should be EU players hopefully they will look at things a bit more quickly now we are in the premiere league

dubai_phil

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Just the Left? I was there too looked like more than just the left to me! A better defence Pace and and a bit more creativity required, the ability to win the ball back too could have been useful seconfd half! lets hope this deal gets sorted ASAP!

 

Yeah posted on back from match thread ( bloody M23 closed for car smash nightmare on the way back grrr) Fonte was horrific so need that CB desperately as well

CB Fry

CB Fry

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Wise words Toomer but somehow Burley and Skacel aren't in the same League in terms of class and ability. Fingers crossed he will be a massive boost to us but we still need some bog standard old fashioned Premiership defenders and, dare I say it, some pace out wide. Far too one-dimensional on Saturday.

 

 

 

Yes but remember this kid is going to cost ten times more than Skacel did.

 

I think we are expecting more than just being better than Rudi Skacel.

 

The risk of Skacel level dissaspointment is very much there because the expectation will be miles higher.

 

But lets sign him first.

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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If he needs a work permit I doubt it would be sorted in time for Sunday which would be a shame. Maybe Lawro could help fast track it?

 

Watching the clips of Ramirez and reading some of the articles again reminded me how good a signing he would be. Much needed flair and creativity in the final third with an excellent shot. Just would need to get him on the ball a lot and use him in the right way - might be wasted stuck out wide.

Saint Stimp

Saint Stimp

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Is it possible that we might have already done all the ground work for the work permit when he agreed to sign last week? Surely we wouldn't have gone through all that if there was any risk of him not getting one..

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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If he needs a work permit I doubt it would be sorted in time for Sunday which would be a shame. Maybe Lawro could help fast track it?

 

Watching the clips of Ramirez and reading some of the articles again reminded me how good a signing he would be. Much needed flair and creativity in the final third with an excellent shot. Just would need to get him on the ball a lot and use him in the right way - might be wasted stuck out wide.

 

How long did it take to get a work permit for Suarez or David Luis or any of those other Brazilians,Argentines and Uruguayans? Think it's only a formality if they meet the criteria set down by the FA to the Home Office.

Ivan Katalinic's 'tache

Ivan Katalinic's 'tache

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So basically we're paying the money to Bologna but Penarol 30% of any sell on fee? Not joint ownership per se but like a legal charge put over property? I guess this way neither Saints nor Bologna blinked first, it was the agent who did (unheard of?). Whatever, hopefully we'll be welcoming a much needed creative force into the team very soon.

scotty

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I am sure I read somewhere on one the previous 95 pages that he has a European passport.

How sure are you? After a statement like that I think you're duty-bound to read through them and find the quote.

 

Hopefully, by the time you're finished he will be on the pitch against Man U. ;)

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