ALWAYS_SFC Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 So because some predict a loss to the champions that is showing a lack of faith? I think your post demonstrates a lack of reality. It`s not the loss it`s the degree of predicted loss, that is and could be so disheartening... Do every team destined to play Man City expect to be thrashed?
The Kraken Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 It`s not the loss it`s the degree of predicted loss, that is and could be so disheartening... Do every team destined to play Man City expect to be thrashed? I imagine the supporters of a lot of them do, yes. Especially clubs that have just been promoted and are yet to find their feet in the top division. Last season City had Swansea on opening day, and mullered them 4-0. I doubt there were any Swansea fans who expected anything from the game. Then they got on with the rest of the season; just as we will.
farawaysaint Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 After watching them today, I was starting to think we'd get mauled 6-0
Lighthouse Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 It`s not the loss it`s the degree of predicted loss, that is and could be so disheartening... Do every team destined to play Man City expect to be thrashed? If anything it's less disheartening. If you go to Man City expecting to get beat and give it your best shot, you wont really be that disappointed. If you go there full of hope that you might get something, you walk away feeling gutted when you lose 4-0.
JRM Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 expecting a 4 or 5-0 defeat, that is just realistic based on the two sides, at least the pressure is off saints really as no one will be expecting them to get a result there. Not sure if i'm looking forward to watching it, the big one is Wigan the following week to see how we bounce back.
cambsaint Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 After watching this afternoon as long as we keep it to non-embarrassing levels I shall be happy. I seriously wonder if we can though after less than inspiring transfer activity.
Turkish Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 Anything below 4-0 is a good result. This is why I hate the premier league.
itchen_dan Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 Poster by Rodney Marsh (ex Sky pundit (tsunami/toon-army)) on Twitter: RodneyMarsh10: It's official just done £2600 #MCFC TO SCORE 4 or more v Southampton @5/1 wish me luck
hypochondriac Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 It`s not the loss it`s the degree of predicted loss, that is and could be so disheartening... Do every team destined to play Man City expect to be thrashed? Well then we are in agreement. I have no idea how we do but the manner of our loss will be the important thing (if we do lose as expected.)
Frank's cousin Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 Uhm... guess it depends on how we want the club progress. We could afterall do what Stoke and Bolton did, buy older experienced pros and be happy with survival with never any real ambition beyond being part of the prem, or we could look at younger players less experience and try and buld something for the long term - but yes get hammered a few times and hope we have enough to stay up. Guess its all about what sort of philosophy we as fans have about the game, success at any cost or be entertained , ook to develop players and a playing style we enjoy... even if it takes longer and the consequences are possible yo yo ing for a few seasons... 3-1 citeh but a good game and an some signs of prog ress and I will be happy...ish
Turkish Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 Uhm... guess it depends on how we want the club progress. We could afterall do what Stoke and Bolton did, buy older experienced pros and be happy with survival with never any real ambition beyond being part of the prem, or we could look at younger players less experience and try and buld something for the long term - but yes get hammered a few times and hope we have enough to stay up. Guess its all about what sort of philosophy we as fans have about the game, success at any cost or be entertained , ook to develop players and a playing style we enjoy... even if it takes longer and the consequences are possible yo yo ing for a few seasons... 3-1 citeh but a good game and an some signs of prog ress and I will be happy...ish Just like Stoke. Who finished 12th in their season after promotion and finished in midtable every season since their promotion. Have got to the FACup final and played in Europe. all done despite having no ambition and being content just to survive.
Matthew Le God Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 Just like Stoke. Who finished 12th in their season after promotion and finished in midtable every season since their promotion. Have got to the FACup final and played in Europe. all done despite having no ambition and being content just to survive. Stoke City have the 3rd highest net spend in England on transfer fees over the past 5 years. 1: Manchester City - £382.2M 2: Chelsea - £190.7M 3: Stoke - £60.1M 4: Aston Villa - £50.6M 5 Manchester United - £36.6M
Turkish Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 Stoke City have the 3rd highest net spend in England on transfer fees over the past 5 years. 1: Manchester City - £382.2M 2: Chelsea - £190.7M 3: Stoke - £60.1M 4: Aston Villa - £50.6M 5 Manchester United - £36.6M Thank you. You do have your uses. So Franks Cousin is wrong as i suggested above and they have shown ambition.
Matthew Le God Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 (edited) Thank you. You do have your uses. So Franks Cousin is wrong as i suggested above and they have shown ambition. Yes he is. Although I think their owner has said the funding won't continue to anywhere near the same level in the future. I think they may be on the decline now, their form in 2012 certainly suggests that. Edited 12 August, 2012 by Matthew Le God
Turkish Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 Yes he is. Although I think their owner has said the funding won't continue to anywhere near the same level in the future. I think they may be on the decline now, their form in 2012 certainly suggests that. I think they'll be In the relegation battle this season. However as their spending shows, they have shown ambition.
Frank's cousin Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 Just like Stoke. Who finished 12th in their season after promotion and finished in midtable every season since their promotion. Have got to the FACup final and played in Europe. all done despite having no ambition and being content just to survive. aye and being dull
Frank's cousin Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 Thank you. You do have your uses. So Franks Cousin is wrong as i suggested above and they have shown ambition. Yes I am rong when talking about spending - but taht is not what I am talking about a you well know - its about long term investment in promising youth and building something rather than buying older pos that may give you that mid table security if that is what a side is happy with - unless you spend 150mil you will not get into the top six... unless you spot talent, develop your own and build a side of 'you win nothing with kids' kids... Turks you are not that dim not to know exactly the point I was making, but if it makes you feel good to point out whatt is 'wrong' with everyone elses post, feel free, but FFS it must be miserable being you if thats what you need to give yourself an ego boost
Turkish Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 Yes I am rong when talking about spending - but taht is not what I am talking about a you well know - its about long term investment in promising youth and building something rather than buying older pos that may give you that mid table security if that is what a side is happy with - unless you spend 150mil you will not get into the top six... unless you spot talent, develop your own and build a side of 'you win nothing with kids' kids... Turks you are not that dim not to know exactly the point I was making, but if it makes you feel good to point out whatt is 'wrong' with everyone elses post, feel free, but FFS it must be miserable being you if thats what you need to give yNourself an ego boost well their academy has just been given cat a status so clearly they are spotting their own talent and building for the future. FC you're not that dim to think that SFC are the only ones capable of bringing through young players but if that level of delusion gives you an ego boost then enjoy it.
Frank's cousin Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 well their academy has just been given cat a status so clearly they are spotting their own talent and building for the future. FC you're not that dim to think that SFC are the only ones capable of bringing through young players but if that level of delusion gives you an ego boost then enjoy it. ...difference is clubs that have the confidence and bottle to give them a chance rather than sticking with 'Delaps' et al - fear is what seems to drive most of ther lower half's selection and transfer policy and it manifests itself in their style of play - sure it works, but it hardly means fans are entertained. If football for you is all tribalism, smart 'gear' and attitude and results and status amongst other fans means the most, then fine, enjoy survival and PL status. I prefer to see it as a sport in which we strive to play attrcative, entertaining football and if the compromise is we lose, so be it - aspiration is a good thing in my book, but patience is necessary and most owners, fans dont afford their clubs that luxury.... I hope we do.
S-Clarke Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 On a side note, how good is it seeing a thread like this at the top of the forum, rather than ''Yeovil - Build up''. Come on - be excited, we're back!
MOSaint. Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 CALL ME MAD OR WHATEVER BUT i THINK 1 - 1 PROBABLY BEST TIME TO PLAY THEM
Avenue Saint Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 2-0 to us with goals from Dan Seaborne and Steve De Ridder If seaborne plays, we'll lose by a greater margin than just 2 goals I think... As it happens, have a feeling, we'll get something out of the game.
pingwing Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 Exciting game, TV means I don't miss it! 2-0 saints city end the game with 8 men on the field. Lallana gets taken down in the box in the first min, Lambert converts the pen and that Kompany fellow is given a straight red. Steven Davis scores a screamer about 60 mins after Ballotelli punches Clyne for winning the ball of him and their keeper handles the ball out of the area for a second yellow... Can dream!
The9 Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 Anything below 4-0 is a good result. This is why I hate the premier league. With you on that one... can we start the "is getting back to the Prem a good thing?" thread again ?
The9 Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 Poster by Rodney Marsh (ex Sky pundit (tsunami/toon-army)) on Twitter: RodneyMarsh10: It's official just done £2600 #MCFC TO SCORE 4 or more v Southampton @5/1 wish me luck Damn sight better value than Lambert for Prem top scorer at 80/1...!
Raging Bull Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 CALL ME MAD OR WHATEVER BUT i THINK 1 - 1 PROBABLY BEST TIME TO PLAY THEM Did you put your saints web fiver on it, if you did that was very silly.
CWD Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 1-0 to Citeh with an injury time winner. "brave performance, they'll be fine if they keep that up" say the pundits. We then lose to Wigan the following week.
Stu Man Do Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19234160 Richards out Hart possibly out Only 9 more freak training ground accidents this week and we have a chance!
dickyhale Posted 12 August, 2012 Posted 12 August, 2012 Think city will beat us 2-1 off work tomorrow going down to buy a ticket for Sunday COYR
BlakeySFC Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 I'm going for 4-0 City, if we get a draw or anything more out of the game it'll be nothing less than a miracle
Saintandy666 Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 (edited) I think they will want to send a message out on the first day of the season. Can't see there being a situation where they go 2 up and mercifully cruise. 5-0? 6... I'm not gonna pay too much attention to this result. The real questions will be asked at Wigan, who are our real competitors this year. We need to be beating teams like Wigan at home if we are to stay up. Edited 13 August, 2012 by Saintandy666
Crowds Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 5-0 or 6-0 loss could be a real welcOme to the prem. it'll show is how unprepared we are. You only have to see the likes of Sharp on twitter dribbling over how good Torres and Tecez are to realise we are not on the same level. Just hope I'm wrong!!!!
doddisalegend Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 We will get a proper welcome to the PL stuffing from citeh I reckon still this why the PL is so much fun. I would just like Lambert to score to set him on his way....
trousers Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 @bigadamsport: Is It The Southampton Way or the highway For Nigel Adkins? http://t.co/Aa0ggaM0
Window Cleaner Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19234160 Richards out Hart possibly out Only 9 more freak training ground accidents this week and we have a chance! more like 39 actually, see they've signed Rodwell today as well.
jawillwill Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 Just had a quick look at their forum. Looks like they're planning a chant to mock the fact that we didn't finish top of the league last season. http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=263802
Sour Mash Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 6-0 is 50-1 with Betfair. Might ease the pain. Can still get us at 18-1 with Stan James to win the game, worth a couple of quid I reckon.
View From The Top Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 I'll do City by 3 clear goals I reckon.
DT Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 That was 20-1 on Betfair. Alternatively, set fire to money.
The9 Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19234160 Richards out Hart possibly out Only 9 more freak training ground accidents this week and we have a chance! I'd say about 20 more, they do have some strength in depth.
Cheese on Toast Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 Just saying, on padddy power, saints to win 2-0 is 125/1
The9 Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 Just had a quick look at their forum. Looks like they're planning a chant to mock the fact that we didn't finish top of the league last season. http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=263802 Um, it's pretty clear that song's aimed at Man U... I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or what here.
The9 Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 more like 39 actually, see they've signed Rodwell today as well. They had squad numbers consecutively up to 70 pre-season - and the 25 man squad limit doesn't have to be named until 2 weeks after we play them. So maybe another 50 injuries ?
fanimal Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 All you pessimists are forgetting Man City are one of those teams we always seem to do well against. We will surprise millions by getting at least a draw. I was at the Etihad when we won up there last time, great headed goal from Beatts from Marians cross.
Saint_clark Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 Um, it's pretty clear that song's aimed at Man U... I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or what here. Me neither, I was just going to leave it in case of a "woosh" moment. Anyway, I'm going to go for a 2-1 win for us.
Itchen_block4 Posted 13 August, 2012 Posted 13 August, 2012 Man City to win by 2 or 3 unfortunately I reckon. If we make new signings this week, they'll probably only make the bench, so can't see that making a whole lot of difference, although a good signing does act as a morale boost. Although we're llikely to lose, we'll be well up for it and make some positives to take forward. -----------------Davis------------------ Clyne-----Fonte-----Hooiveld-----Fox ---------Morgan-----Davis------------- ----------------Lallana------------------ Puncheon-------------------Rodriguez ---------------Lambert----------------- Subs: Gazzaniga, Seaborne, Richardson, JWP, Guly, Chaplow, Sharp Bench could change if we sign anyone this week, but otherwise stick with what we've been working on. I'm tempted to start with Gazzaniga and JWP, as they can both add something to the team, but a possible roasting like this game probably isn't the time. Maybe against Wigan.
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