SaintRichmond Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 For as long as I can remember, traditionally Saints have always been Red and White Stripes. After the Sash period they changed to Red and White Stripes, and have always been known by them Cortese has scrapped tradition, and has now got us looking like a Liverpool or Middlesborough 2nd team I've given it a chance for the "new" colors to sink in, and I realise Commercially that they have sold well, ie there's nothing else to buy, but I for one have come to the conclusion that I don't like our "new" colors' Sainta ARE Red and White Stripes, it is our Heritage IMHO Anyone else agree ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Don't like the kit but not really that bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 There's been plenty written about this in other threads, but yeah, FYI, I agree. I happen to think its f.uc.king disgusting. Of course there are those that will tell you it's just a shirt, but it's not, it's our identity, our tradition, and anyway, it's not just the shirt, it's the shorts and socks too; they're red too in case anyone hadn't noticed, which is what makes this change different from the '84 kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Agree. Still think it looks horrible and every time I've seen pictures on the OS, watched the Ajax game on TV and seen the players in it at Sutton Utd on Thursday, I can confirm it does not feel like I'm watching Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 For as long as I can remember, traditionally Saints have always been Red and White Stripes. After the Sash period they changed to Red and White Stripes, and have always been known by them Cortese has scrapped tradition, and has now got us looking like a Liverpool or Middlesborough 2nd team I've given it a chance for the "new" colors to sink in, and I realise Commercially that they have sold well, ie there's nothing else to buy, but I for one have come to the conclusion that I don't like our "new" colors' Sainta ARE Red and White Stripes, it is our Heritage IMHO Anyone else agree ?? I totally agree with you Southampton should play in red and white stripes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 It's very different and will take some getting used to, like the sash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 It's an awful kit, I'd actually prefer the away one to be the home kit for some reason. Thankfully it's only for a season and hopefully the club see's sense and reverts back to the red/white shirt, black shorts, red/white socks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Seriously another kit thread, I think in different guises there are 4 things talked about on this forum: The Kit The Website CB's NC's holiday and link with transfer activity. It's like groundhog day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 (edited) For as long as I can remember, traditionally Saints have always been Red and White Stripes. I'm guessing you don't remember/weren't alive in the 1980's then - the most successful decade in the club's league history. After the Sash period they changed to Red and White Stripes, and have always been known by them Not true. From 1980 to 1989 Southampton used... Saints ARE Red and White Stripes, it is our Heritage IMHO From 1891 to 1950 Southampton wore blue shorts and blue socks. Should we revert to blue shorts and blue socks as we had them in "our heritage" for 59 years! Edited 11 August, 2012 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 We wore red crosses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Boring....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 If we don't win the league this year it will be because of not having the stripes, it's a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 I reckon if we had some sort of poll on this it would work out at approximately a 50.97 % - 33.67% yes/no split off the top of me head. The remaining 15.36% would probably say something like 'is this really all we have to talk about?' or somesuchlike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 11 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 11 August, 2012 It's an awful kit, I'd actually prefer the away one to be the home kit for some reason. Thankfully it's only for a season and hopefully the club see's sense and reverts back to the red/white shirt, black shorts, red/white socks. I'd like to think so, but don't hold your breath Cortese is great in most other aspects of running Saints, but has not been part of our Heritage and Tradition IMHO, to dismiss the Stripes philosophy, and go with something that does not in any way look like Saints, is possibly the worst decision he has made I doubt if he will change his mindset for next season, or any other season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 For as long as I can remember, traditionally Saints have always been Red and White Stripes. After the Sash period they changed to Red and White Stripes, and have always been known by them Cortese has scrapped tradition, and has now got us looking like a Liverpool or Middlesborough 2nd team I've given it a chance for the "new" colors to sink in, and I realise Commercially that they have sold well, ie there's nothing else to buy, but I for one have come to the conclusion that I don't like our "new" colors' Sainta ARE Red and White Stripes, it is our Heritage IMHO Anyone else agree ?? For over half of our existence we have had blue short. And non stripes HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 11 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 11 August, 2012 I'm guessing you don't remember/weren't alive in the 1980's then - the most successful decade in the club's league history. Not true. From 1980 to 1989 Southampton used... From 1891 to 1950 Southampton wore blue shorts and blue socks. Should we revert to blue shorts and blue socks as we had them in "our heritage" for 59 years! As I wrote "For as long as I can remember" I'm glad your memories of 1901 have stayed with you. My memories of Saints started in the 1950's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Cortese is great in most other aspects of running Saints, but has not been part of our Heritage and Tradition You mean the heritage and tradition of struggling near the bottom of the table and selling all our best youngsters. The only other period in our history when we have been a force to be reckoned with was when we dumped the stripes as I recall. Don't get e wrong, I can see saints have been synonomous with stripes but I've always envied other clubs who could where the shirt on holiday without looking like a TGI Fridays employee on his way home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 (edited) As I wrote "For as long as I can remember" You also said... "After the Sash period they changed to Red and White Stripes, and have always been known by them" Which simply is not true - see 1980 to 1989. I'm glad your memories of 1901 have stayed with you. What makes 1891 to 1950 any less of our heritage than any other period? 59 years is 46% of the club's history wearing blue socks and blue shorts. Should we revert to blue shorts and blue socks? If we wear the all red kit for the next 59 years will you accept that as our traditional kit? What do you view as Leeds United's traditional kit? They didn't wear white until Don Revie changed it in the 1960's. My memories of Saints started in the 1950's So when you said... "for as long as I can remember", you blanked out a 9 year period in the 1980's. Edited 11 August, 2012 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 The kits from 80-85 were red and white striped, just less of them. They also had a good balance between red and white. The two from 85-89 were typical late eighties catastrophe. And are you really suggesting that in the late eighties people would have traditionally described Saint's traditional kit as 'red with black and white shoulders' or 'red and white Denmark style quarters'?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 For as long as I can remember, traditionally Saints have always been Red and White Stripes. After the Sash period they changed to Red and White Stripes, and have always been known by them Cortese has scrapped tradition, and has now got us looking like a Liverpool or Middlesborough 2nd team I've given it a chance for the "new" colors to sink in, and I realise Commercially that they have sold well, ie there's nothing else to buy, but I for one have come to the conclusion that I don't like our "new" colors' Sainta ARE Red and White Stripes, it is our Heritage IMHO Anyone else agree ?? Not over keen on the new shirts, but so what, I don't think it will change just because a few are not keen. The thing I would have done differently would have been to have black shorts. I don't really care for a look that is almost "all red". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 11 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 11 August, 2012 You mean the heritage and tradition of struggling near the bottom of the table and selling all our best youngsters. The only other period in our history when we have been a force to be reckoned with was when we dumped the stripes as I recall. Don't get e wrong, I can see saints have been synonomous with stripes but I've always envied other clubs who could where the shirt on holiday without looking like a TGI Fridays employee on his way home. I get your reasoning, As opposed to walking around in a shirt looking like a female Chinese shot putter Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 I prefer traditional red and white, but for a season or two, can let it ride. The '80s had some odd shirts but we all got used to them. It isn't a big enough issue for me to worry about. It's the players wearing the shirts that concerns me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 I think we'll have to get used to it. Kits come out every season now; the club will be looking at ways of maximising sales. Having red and white stripes continually is probably not the best method, so maybe best to throw in something different every other season. I reckon we'll go back to stripes next season then away from them again the seaon after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 11 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 11 August, 2012 The kits from 80-85 were red and white striped, just less of them. They also had a good balance between red and white. The two from 85-89 were typical late eighties catastrophe. And are you really suggesting that in the late eighties people would have traditionally described Saint's traditional kit as 'red with black and white shoulders' or 'red and white Denmark style quarters'?? The kits from 1950 to the 80's were also Red and White stripes The years when Saints wore yellow/blue predates me, so I never knew them then Saw them in yellow/blue in both 76 an 03, when Man u and Arsenal won the toss for their "home" shirts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 SaintRichmond, should we revert back to blue socks and blue shorts? If not, why not? Applying the same logic of heritage as you now, blue shorts and blue socks account for a large % of Saints history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Why are we going over this again? it is clear that a number of people dislike the shirt this year but many are relieved that it is just a one year thing and are hoping that we revert back to a more standard red and white striped design next year. Lets move on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifelongsaint83 Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 I don't agree, we are trying something new and different..If it flops it gets changed next season, but for me the most important thing is 3 years ago we were on the brink and now we are in the Premier League! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 I'll say it again, for me it's not the shirt, its the shorts and socks. Why the all red kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 You're allowed to hate the kit, that's subjective, but saints have played in countless kits without stripes, so to suggest it's tradition is just wrong. Tradition is usually red and white in some form though, not plain red. Personally I hate it because it's dull, the sponsor looks ridiculously tacky and I'm not a fan of any one colour kits. Away short with black shorts and red socks, that would probably be alright. It doesn't happen often, but I totally agree with you adrian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 It's still red and white stripes - just very very wide red and very very thin white. Still red and white stripes though, so our heritage and tradition is still intact. Phew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 I hate the new shirt and haven't bought it. It's also made me a lot more reluctant to buy the away kit, so at the moment there's a big gap in my kit collection. It really does just look wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 It's still red and white stripes - just very very wide red and very very thin white. Still red and white stripes though, so our heritage and tradition is still intact. Phew! Actually even using that argument it's red and white and grey stripes, no heritage there. You might also want to ask Liverpool and Forest fans if they've ever played in red and white stripes, they haven't, but they've worn very similar kits to our current one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 I see Man U are in 'stripes', have their fans gone loopy, like some on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 It's not the shirt itself that bugs me, but the entire red kit. (Shorts and Socks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 I see Man U are in 'stripes', have their fans gone loopy, like some on here? Huh, they're in stripes AND hoops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 It's not the shirt itself that bugs me, but the entire red kit. (Shorts and Socks) It's both for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Actually even using that argument it's red and white and grey stripes, no heritage there. You might also want to ask Liverpool and Forest fans if they've ever played in red and white stripes, they haven't, but they've worn very similar kits to our current one. That's just being picky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 I'm in the 'ït's a piece of crap' camp. Haven't seen it in the flesh as such, but watching Saints Player Highlights of the games so far which didn't have any commentary (LOL) I had to really stay focused and remember which side was us. As said above as well, it's not just the shirt's lack of white, it's the friggin Red Shorts that really make it a complete turn off. Whatever happened to our "New" 3rd kit? Except for the AAP logo and PL label it doesn't appear very new to me. Listening to them playing in the new kit on Saint Player is really going to spoil my enjoyment of the match each week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Agree. Red & White stripes for me .The best kit was worn in the first season at SMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 11 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Why are we going over this again? it is clear that a number of people dislike the shirt this year but many are relieved that it is just a one year thing and are hoping that we revert back to a more standard red and white striped design next year. Lets move on... WHERE does it state that ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyin Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Saints are red and white with black shorts. Don't care how it comes so long as there's no prominence of one or other on the home kit. Current one just ain't Saints. What marks me the most the cheap way the pinstripes fail to meet on the shoulder. Couldn't give a damn about what it looks like on holiday as IMO kits are for players and kids only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Saints are red and white with black shorts. If you were a Saints fan between 1891 and 1950 you wouldn't have said that. Things change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 If you were a Saints fan between 1891 and 1950 you wouldn't have said that. Things change... You'd be ok with a blue shirt would you, cos, you know, things change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint. Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 for as long as i can remember, traditionally saints have always been red and white stripes. After the sash period they changed to red and white stripes, and have always been known by them cortese has scrapped tradition, and has now got us looking like a liverpool or middlesborough 2nd team i've given it a chance for the "new" colors to sink in, and i realise commercially that they have sold well, ie there's nothing else to buy, but i for one have come to the conclusion that i don't like our "new" colors' sainta are red and white stripes, it is our heritage imho anyone else agree ?? yes agree 100% didnt like it when it was revealed but thought i would give it a chance and i dont like it end of we are red and white stripes and yes have lost our identity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 I reckon if we had some sort of poll on this it would work out at approximately a 50.97 % - 33.67% yes/no split off the top of me head. The remaining 15.36% would probably say something like 'is this really all we have to talk about?' or somesuchlike. if only there were some way of proving these estimates plucked from the depths of your imagination.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 It still doesn't seem like watching Saints to me. I don't like the way the club have ditched tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 If only someone had pointed out how we had played in blue shorts for 50 plus years then this thread would be more credible......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Apparently we played in blue shorts and socks for over 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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