Saint-Armstrong Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 BBC saying that Police have raided and cordoned off the Grandmother's home. Is it just me who, (and I know this may be bad to some), saw the Grandmother's boyfriend and thought he was in on it in some way? Felt like he was holding something back? Something just didn't seem right. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19206675 http://news.sky.com/story/971039/tia-sharp-latest-police-surround-house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 This is about 10 minutes from where I live. The area is full of proper wronguns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 What was all that candles to light the way home business? Now if one of mine ever disappeared god forbid I wouldnt be lighting a bloody candle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 Cant really make acusations, but agree there was a tone in his voice on the radio and the things he said that sounded a bit odd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyhale Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 This is about 10 minutes from where I live. The area is full of proper wronguns. The whole family seem abit odd..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 I was in Crystal Palace park last week and given a flyer about her. Sounds like the community's efforts to get her found are going to be in vain, sadly. I'm sure it's already been said but it's a little bit weird that the grandmother's boyfriend was questioned or was helping the enquiry. Grandmother's boyfriend? Is it me or does that suggest a family that are having children at stupidly young ages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 I was in Crystal Palace park last week and given a flyer about her. Sounds like the community's efforts to get her found are going to be in vain, sadly. I'm sure it's already been said but it's a little bit weird that the grandmother's boyfriend was questioned or was helping the enquiry. Grandmother's boyfriend? Is it me or does that suggest a family that are having children at stupidly young ages... Both the parent and grandparent of the daughter must have been pretty young. The grandmother is 46 whilst the granddaughter is 12... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 It's a sad fact that in the majority of abuse / murder cases involving children, the perpetrator is a member of the (extended) family. I guess that's why the grandmother's partner was interviewed. Poor little mite, I hope she's OK but the longer this drags on the less likely that will be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 A body has been found. Murder inquiry launched. Police are searching for Stuart Hazell, if seen call 999 and do not approach. https://twitter.com/skymartinbrunt https://twitter.com/CrimeReporter_ https://twitter.com/telegraphnews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 It's a sad fact that in the majority of abuse / murder cases involving children, the perpetrator is a member of the (extended) family. I guess that's why the grandmother's partner was interviewed. Whcih is why the Portuguese police went so hard on the McCann's. They did make a right balls up of the investigation, but the McCann's and media line seemed to be "how dare they suspect us". I have noticed a marked difference in the treatment of this family compared to McCann's by the media. All the ex jail bird Grandad and Grandmothers boyfriend "interviwed" and a general nod and wink . The most likely outcome will be a family member or friend and they maybe "wrong uns", but it's heartbreaking. I keep drumming it into my kids not to accept lifts from friends/collagues of mine or my Mrs' friends or work mates. It's a really sad state of affairs, but kids are wary of strangers they have never met before, but most of the time they will know their attacker in some way or other. Look at Huntly, that was their teaching asst's bloke. Have you noticed the difference in the media's treatment of this family with the McCann's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 It's a sad fact that in the majority of abuse / murder cases involving children, the perpetrator is a member of the (extended) family. I guess that's why the grandmother's partner was interviewed. Poor little mite, I hope she's OK but the longer this drags on the less likely that will be the case. Quite, It's shocking the things people can do to their own family, and equally shocking what they do them for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 http://news.sky.com/story/971123/tia-search-police-find-body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 BBC News (UK) @BBCNews Police are seeking Stuart Hazel - partner of missing girl #TiaSharp's grandmother - after discovery of a body in London http://bbc.in/OX1lD9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 how the hell can he have disappeared!! They must have suspected him, so why was he not being monitored....FFS Bet he kills himself before the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 should they not have searched the grandmothers property before now? Also - the grandmother must be in on this in some way (not wanting to slander anyone) but you cant live in a house that small and not notice a body, surely?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 should they not have searched the grandmothers property before now? Also - the grandmother must be in on this in some way (not wanting to slander anyone) but you cant live in a house that small and not notice a body, surely?? Very sad. It's all a bit dodgy but it's was suggested that the body might have been moved back into the house. Either that or the police will be accused on incompetence on an amazing scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 Very sad. It's all a bit dodgy but it's was suggested that the body might have been moved back into the house. Either that or the police will be accused on incompetence on an amazing scale. either way - it's a bit dodge. * If there was a body already in the house - why wasnt it found in the initial search. * If there wasn't an initial search - why * If the body was moved back into the huose - how was this not noticed by either the police or the worlds media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 either way - it's a bit dodge. * If there was a body already in the house - why wasnt it found in the initial search. * If there wasn't an initial search - why * If the body was moved back into the huose - how was this not noticed by either the police or the worlds media? There was a ex senior officer on Sky News. He said that they could not conduct a Forensic search on a griveing families property without first establishing just cause. He said that once they could find no cctv evidence of her and all reported sighting had proved to be false, then they could move. He did question the length of time, but said you can not go taking up floorboards ect until the evidence leads you there. He said there would have been a intial search, but you can not make it too indepth at that stage. Had the police taken up floorboards, conducted a forensic search using dogs, dug up the garden of Holly Wells family on day one, just think of the outcry. The police are really in a no win situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 I knew that git was lying when he said he was hoovering when she went out. I bet he hasn't used a hoover in his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 10 August, 2012 Share Posted 10 August, 2012 should they not have searched the grandmothers property before now? Also - the grandmother must be in on this in some way (not wanting to slander anyone) but you cant live in a house that small and not notice a body, surely?? Very sad. It's all a bit dodgy but it's was suggested that the body might have been moved back into the house. Either that or the police will be accused on incompetence on an amazing scale. either way - it's a bit dodge. * If there was a body already in the house - why wasnt it found in the initial search. * If there wasn't an initial search - why * If the body was moved back into the huose - how was this not noticed by either the police or the worlds media? Very strange, very sad and, let's face it, very odd that a body is found a week later.... Understand the Just Cause line, but really, having seen the house on Sky News.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Understand the Just Cause line, but really, having seen the house on Sky News.......................... ...what? They should just ignore rules of procedure when it's a poor/small house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 ...what? They should just ignore rules of procedure when it's a poor/small house? Apparently they searched the house 3 times before finding anything. Just seems strange that's all. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/tia-stuart-hazell-arrested-body-found-212055378.html "A number of searches took place at the address. When Tia was first reported missing, officers searched her bedroom as is normal practice in a missing person’s enquiry," he said. "A further search of the house took place in the early hours of Sunday morning by a specialist team. "This was then followed by another search of the house by specialist dogs on Wednesday lunchtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 11 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Caught and arrested after an 11 year old girl spotted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Grandmother arrested on suspicion of murder now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Grandmother arrested on suspicion of murder now too. and the grandmothers next door neighbour now Ms Sharp's next-door neighbour Paul Meehan, 39, was later taken into custody on suspicion of assisting an offender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 and the grandmothers next door neighbour now Ms Sharp's next-door neighbour Paul Meehan, 39, was later taken into custody on suspicion of assisting an offender. is that where the body was hidden? or just a case of him helping the killer to get away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 my money is on body being moved. No way old bill can search 3 times inc dogs and not find the poor sole , surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 my money is on body being moved. No way old bill can search 3 times inc dogs and not find the poor sole , surely Is it a shoe that convicted them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Is it a shoe that convicted them? Pretty poor Hypo. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Apparently they searched the house 3 times before finding anything. Just seems strange that's all. Well, there are searches and searches. And missing persons are very different to murders. Having said that, it transpires that following the initial search (which would have been a 'look round'), it was subsequently searched by a specialist team, and then a dog, so it seems *very* odd that it wasn't found at that point. Either someone hasn't done their job properly, or the body was moved. The latter seems the only logical conclusion (after all, a dog doesn't know how to do a bad job), but rationally it doesn't make a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Their blaming human error on the body not being found earlier. I suspect a junior officer has been summoned to the Super's office. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 (edited) Their blaming human error on the body not being found earlier. I suspect a junior officer has been summoned to the Super's office. . . For a cup of tea with bisquits.? Edited 11 August, 2012 by Saint in Paradise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 I thought the grandmother was in on it, her body language wasn't right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 I thought the grandmother was in on it, her body language wasn't right. I hope you are a copper? If not, your talent is wasted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 I hope you are a copper? If not, your talent is wasted! I read a lot of spy non-fiction. One thing I picked up from them is if someone behaves in an odd way or out of character then there is almost always a reason. When the family walked out the house carrying the candles the grandmother held her hand in front of her face as if to appear to be crying. It looked to me like she was just covering her face from the cameras as jf she had something to hide. It might be that she just didn't want her pic in the paper because she is **** ugly but in that scenario the only thing on her mind should be her missing kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 August, 2012 Share Posted 11 August, 2012 Very strange, very sad and, let's face it, very odd that a body is found a week later.... Understand the Just Cause line, but really, having seen the house on Sky News.......................... OK so I guess somebody has seen their career go up in smoke this last week. Strange and very sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 August, 2012 Share Posted 12 August, 2012 Well, there are searches and searches. And missing persons are very different to murders. Having said that, it transpires that following the initial search (which would have been a 'look round'), it was subsequently searched by a specialist team, and then a dog, so it seems *very* odd that it wasn't found at that point. Either someone hasn't done their job properly, or the body was moved. The latter seems the only logical conclusion (after all, a dog doesn't know how to do a bad job), but rationally it doesn't make a lot of sense. It would seem that the poor girl was found in the attic. Would a dog have been able to detect a body up there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 12 August, 2012 Share Posted 12 August, 2012 Tis weird that the surname Meehan links two missing children cases. Craig Meehan was Karen Matthews' boyfriend in the Shannon Matthews case, and Paul Meehan is the next door neighbour to Tia's grandmother that has been questioned for assisting an offender. Probably co-incidence, but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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