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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/337626

 

SOUTHAMPTON DEFENDER GETS CALL-UP

 

CRAIG LEVEIN will tomorrow recall Danny Fox to the Scotland squad when he names his group for the friendly against Australia a week on Wednesday.

 

The Southampton left back has earned a surprise return to the international fold because of an injury to Steven Whittaker and the Rangers situation for Lee Wallace.

 

Fox’s only other appearance for the nation was in George Burley’s last match in charge against Wales back in November 2009.

 

That was hardly a memorable experience as Scotland lost 3-0 but the 26-year-old was a regular in Saints’ promotion drive to the Premiership last season.

 

Meanwhile, there will be no Kenny Miller in Levein’s squad either as he settles in to his new life in America.

 

Good luck to him if he does get it.

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Hard luck for Fox having to drop down to standard of Scottish international football. Will struggle against Oz. :-)

 

He's already got one cap from about 4 years ago.

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Hard luck for Fox having to drop down to standard of Scottish international football. Will struggle against Oz. :-)

 

What a naïve and stupid comment! What a great honour to get selected to play for your country – whatever the country. Obviously the great Olympic soul has completely by passed you ?

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What a naïve and stupid comment! What a great honour to get selected to play for your country – whatever the country. Obviously the great Olympic soul has completely by passed you ?

 

It is an honour for Danny and its great for Saints to have an international player in the Scotland squad as it shows quality and gives the player extra high level experience. The 'your country' phrase might be a slight overstatement as Danny was born in Cheshire, his boyhood club was Everton and he played for England u-21 while he was with Coventry. But although his north of the border ancestry is limited to a Scottish grandfather, he does have a few games on loan to Stranraer and his time with Celtic to give him some genuine connections.

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What a naïve and stupid comment! What a great honour to get selected to play for your country – whatever the country. Obviously the great Olympic soul has completely by passed you ?

Far from it my naive, stupid friend. Scotland as an internatoonal fpotball force is an appallingly low standard, and they will struggle to beat the Aussies (even though they arr not as good as they were a few years ago). International football in general outdide of the top 10 or so nations is inferior to the PL. Scotland would struggle in League 1 in my opinion. No idea what this has to do with the Olympics. Stupid comment and well wide of the mark.

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Scotland would struggle in League 1 in my opinion. No idea what this has to do with the Olympics. Stupid comment and well wide of the mark.

 

With their team full of Prem/Championship and SPL players, many of whom have European experience, of course. :facepalm:

 

Goalkeepers: McGregor (Besiktas), Gilks (Blackpool), Marshall (Cardiff) Defenders: Bardsley (Sunderland), Berra (Wolves), Caldwell (Wigan), Fox (Southampton), Hanley (Blackburn), Hutton (Aston Villa), Martin (Norwich), Mulgrew (Celtic), Webster (Hearts) Midfielders: Adam (Liverpool), Bannan (Aston Villa), Cowie (Cardiff), Dorrans (West Brom), Forrest (Celtic), Morrison (West Brom), Phillips (Blackpool), Snodgrass (Norwich) Forwards: Mackie (QPR), Maloney (Wigan), Naismith (Everton), Rhodes (Huddersfield).

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Far from it my naive, stupid friend. Scotland as an internatoonal fpotball force is an appallingly low standard, and they will struggle to beat the Aussies (even though they arr not as good as they were a few years ago). International football in general outdide of the top 10 or so nations is inferior to the PL. Scotland would struggle in League 1 in my opinion. No idea what this has to do with the Olympics. Stupid comment and well wide of the mark.

 

Now that is a stupid comment. Their 'League 1' line-up based on current squad: (my personal preferences for positions)

 

Gilks

 

Bardsley

Caldwell

Mulgrew

Fox

 

Adam

Dorrans

Morrison

 

Snodgrass

Rhodes

Phillips

 

And in terms of subs, that would leave you with: McGregor, Marshall, Berra, Hanley, Hutton, Martin, Webster, Bannan, Cowie, Forrest, Mackie, Maloney, Naismith.

 

 

To say that is a 'League 1' team is really a ridiculous and stupid comment.

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Good for Danny Fox, and for the club. Of course there is a danger of injury, but Saints players in international squads is a barometer of our improvement and ascendency...

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What a naïve and stupid comment! What a great honour to get selected to play for your country – whatever the country. Obviously the great Olympic soul has completely by passed you ?
It is a mickey mouse league though. League 1 all the way.
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I'm truly sorry that my stupid comment is not aligned with your thistle tinted opinion. I also marvel at your ability to list so many 2nd rate players, I am sure they are all Billy Bremner reincarnated. International football for low ranking teams is not all about the players of that nationality or 3rd generationists. Rarely do managers get a full squad together. Scottish football is in crisis at present, a few good players but no depth. The reality is that Scotland with 2-3 days prep before each game would struggle against top L1 teams playing twice a week and with consistent training and togetherness. The idea that international football outside top 10ish world ranked teams is high quality is a myth. All my opinion of course, and as I am stupid not worth bothering yourself with.

 

I wish Danny good luck playing for his adopted country, sadly he is unlikely to have been recognised for his country of birth. He could benefit Saints by getting some good character building scrapping for a result against the likes of the Faroes inorder to secure 4th place in a group and failing to qualify again for a major tournament.

 

:-)

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You are completely talking out of your ar5e,and no amount of excessive verbiage is going to make a team of players all playing above League One, "a team that would struggle in League One", as you stated.

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Sorry that you find it difficult to deal with lots of words or o.es that are too long. Says lots about you. You have no effective argument so you use insults instead. Prove that Scotland could win L1 with their current bunch of mediocre players and I might listen. Otherwise bury your head in the sand and contine to believe they are world beaters.

 

Hopefully soon we will have some proper.football to talk about instead of 3rd rate teams.

 

Ps, if you've reached this part of my post, well done, school will be very proud of you next term.

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What an utterly ridiculous notion. A Scotland team would not "struggle in League 1". Of the Scotland teams listed above, any team in League 1 would likely choose every single player to add to their ranks, if they could.

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Am really Pleased for both Fox and Davis as watching Fox alot last season for Saints he was Immense and will be Good watching him play for both Scotland and Saints and I haven't seen Davis play yet but I would also like to wish him Good Luck as well when he plays for Saints and for Ireland as well!!!

Also I know this isn't Saints related but Well Done to Jordan Rhodes of Huddersfield for getting into the Scotland team as well!!!

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I'm truly sorry that my stupid comment is not aligned with your thistle tinted opinion. I also marvel at your ability to list so many 2nd rate players, I am sure they are all Billy Bremner reincarnated. International football for low ranking teams is not all about the players of that nationality or 3rd generationists. Rarely do managers get a full squad together. Scottish football is in crisis at present, a few good players but no depth. The reality is that Scotland with 2-3 days prep before each game would struggle against top L1 teams playing twice a week and with consistent training and togetherness. The idea that international football outside top 10ish world ranked teams is high quality is a myth. All my opinion of course, and as I am stupid not worth bothering yourself with.

 

I wish Danny good luck playing for his adopted country, sadly he is unlikely to have been recognised for his country of birth. He could benefit Saints by getting some good character building scrapping for a result against the likes of the Faroes inorder to secure 4th place in a group and failing to qualify again for a major tournament.

 

:-)

 

Detecting a little bit of prejudice towards Scotland there...maybe not the best ploy if you want your argument to be taken seriously.

 

As a Scotland fan the potential is there for us to be a good team. Fact is that Walter Smith is the only decent manager we've had since Craig Burley. In the 2008 Euro Quals under WS we narrowly missed out on qualifying ahead of Italy or France, both finalists in the 2006 WC. Since then we've had a few poor managers (George Burley and Craig Levein - who I don't think is good enough) and as such our performances have suffered. The fact that we banned our best GK (McGregor) and our influential captain (Ferguson) from international football for a period, put our best striker off playing for his country (S.Fletcher) and lost our best midfielder to a really unfortunate injury (D.Fletcher) contributed to our poor performances in International football.

 

However, we've got some very promising youngsters coming through (Danny Wilson - Liverpool CB, Matt Phillips - Blackpool Winger, James Forrest - Celtic Winger) and the SFA have put lots of money into grassroots coaching to ensure more young talent starts coming through.

 

Oh, and tell me this team would struggle in L1:

 

GK: McGregor

 

RB: Hutton

LB: Fox

CB: Caldwell

CB: Mulgrew

 

RM: Morrison

LM: Phillips

CM: Adam

CM: Dorrans

 

ST: Naismith

ST: Rhodes

 

That's a team that would comfortably finish mid-table in the Prem.

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Good post Mike. Although I think you meant Craig Brown, not Craig Burley. ;)

 

Maybe VectisSaint could tell us all how your team would fare in League 1. I'll list it again.

 

GK: McGregor

RB: Hutton

LB: Fox

CB: Caldwell

CB: Mulgrew

RM: Morrison

LM: Phillips

CM: Adam

CM: Dorrans

ST: Naismith

ST: Rhodes

 

How about it Vectis. Where would that team finish in League 1? What would be the extent of their "struggle"? Especially if they got Steven Fletcher and Darren Fletcher back, one of whom is being touted for around £10M at the moment due to 3 years of scoring decent amounts at Premier League level and one who is (when fit) a starter for Manchester United.

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He's starting for Scotland tonight.

 

Scotland XI to face Australia

 

McGregor (Besiktas)

Hutton (Aston Villa)

Webster (Hearts)

Berra (Wolves)

Fox (Southampton)

Caldwell (Wigan)

Adam (Liverpool)

Morrison (West Brom)

Snodgrass (Norwich)

Naismith (Everton)

Rhodes (Huddersfield)

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Good post Mike. Although I think you meant Craig Brown, not Craig Burley. ;)

 

Maybe VectisSaint could tell us all how your team would fare in League 1. I'll list it again.

 

GK: McGregor

RB: Hutton

LB: Fox

CB: Caldwell

CB: Mulgrew

RM: Morrison

LM: Phillips

CM: Adam

CM: Dorrans

ST: Naismith

ST: Rhodes

 

How about it Vectis. Where would that team finish in League 1? What would be the extent of their "struggle"? Especially if they got Steven Fletcher and Darren Fletcher back, one of whom is being touted for around £10M at the moment due to 3 years of scoring decent amounts at Premier League level and one who is (when fit) a starter for Manchester United.

 

Based on NOT having Fletchers back, I would predict 3rd, and then they would lose in the play-offs. This is based on the premise I always stated but you were too thick to understand that the Scotland team is only brought together for a couple of days before every game and does not have the continuity that league teams do, and also on the understanding that I always made clear that there are always withdrawals before every game, which is very unlike league teams. I stand by what I said, based on those assumptions Scotland would struggle (to get out of) L1, and I suggest they will struggle tonight against Oz. Prove me wrong on the L1 theory, of course you can't, its an opinion, and its as valid as yours, so stop being a little ****. International football outside the Top 10 or so is very poor quality, and is usually as boring as **** to watch, and exciting matches against teams such as the Faroes or San Marino fighting for a result to end up a meaningless 4th in a qualifying group must be the most soul destroying way to play football, as Danny will find out in the not too distant future. But as I said before good luck to him playing for his adopted (Grandmother's) team, I really do wish him all the best, but please don't try to make it look as though it is some sort of sporting pinnacle.

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Based on NOT having Fletchers back, I would predict 3rd, and then they would lose in the play-offs. This is based on the premise I always stated but you were too thick to understand that the Scotland team is only brought together for a couple of days before every game and does not have the continuity that league teams do, and also on the understanding that I always made clear that there are always withdrawals before every game, which is very unlike league teams. I stand by what I said, based on those assumptions Scotland would struggle (to get out of) L1, and I suggest they will struggle tonight against Oz. Prove me wrong on the L1 theory, of course you can't, its an opinion, and its as valid as yours, so stop being a little ****. International football outside the Top 10 or so is very poor quality, and is usually as boring as **** to watch, and exciting matches against teams such as the Faroes or San Marino fighting for a result to end up a meaningless 4th in a qualifying group must be the most soul destroying way to play football, as Danny will find out in the not too distant future. But as I said before good luck to him playing for his adopted (Grandmother's) team, I really do wish him all the best, but please don't try to make it look as though it is some sort of sporting pinnacle.

 

Well that was quite the rant!! But I hope you've calmed down a bit since, you sounded as if you were quite worked up (which is strange, as all I did was ask you a fairly reasonable question and you responded with an abusive outburst like that).

 

Scotland are currently struggling 2-1 at the moment, bless them. But then Australia would probably get relegated from League 2, or something.

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Well that was quite the rant!! But I hope you've calmed down a bit since, you sounded as if you were quite worked up (which is strange, as all I did was ask you a fairly reasonable question and you responded with an abusive outburst like that).

 

Scotland are currently struggling 2-1 at the moment, bless them. But then Australia would probably get relegated from League 2, or something.

 

Scotland had actually played pretty well tonight, 3-1 up now. Can see Fox being a regular for them in the future

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Scotland had actually played pretty well tonight, 3-1 up now. Can see Fox being a regular for them in the future

 

Still not good enough to get promoted from League 1 though.

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Involved in both Scotland goals so far. Good stuff.

 

Played the final ball for first two I see. Notice blast from the past Sparv got Finland's second against N Ire and Davis got a full 90mins I believe.

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Played the final ball for first two I see. Notice blast from the past Sparv got Finland's second against N Ire and Davis got a full 90mins I believe.

 

Played alongside Chris Baird, now there's a player who can play centre back and defensive midfield, has plenty of Prem and some European experience, meets our academy-grown criteria and wouldn't cost the earth...

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Decided to watch this rather than England.

 

Fox did OK, ball for the first was good, 2nd goal did well to cut back, ball was ok, rather aimless though.

 

Defending looked ok, out of position a few times the left CB had to cover him.

 

Normally day out them.

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Goal line block from Fox was actually with his hand, and was over the line. So should've been a goal.

 

And a red.

 

But he didn't have a bad game at all, looked quite at home tbh.

 

I didn't ever think Harding was such a bad player, I just think Fox was so much more superior to him that it showed so clearly. Very accomplished left back in my opinion.

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Good post Mike. Although I think you meant Craig Brown, not Craig Burley ;)

 

Ah yes, I couldn't remember which one it was! Burley captained us in the 98 WC right? Or was that John Collins?

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Vectis what is it with you being so ultra critical of our players . Scottish football has been pretty dire in recent years not help by the rangers fiasco . But the difference between some saints fans on here and Scottish fans is the fact Scottish fans get behind their players call it the brave heart syndrome but they do get behind their team shame we have some on here that take great pleasure on knocking saints players day after day . Even the matt philips thread there Are those knocking him and he hasn't even signed .

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Vectis what is it with you being so ultra critical of our players . Scottish football has been pretty dire in recent years not help by the rangers fiasco . But the difference between some saints fans on here and Scottish fans is the fact Scottish fans get behind their players call it the brave heart syndrome but they do get behind their team shame we have some on here that take great pleasure on knocking saints players day after day . Even the matt philips thread there Are those knocking him and he hasn't even signed .

 

Except if your name's Ian Black of course! ;)

 

Apparently Danny came off with an injury according to the bbc website, anyone know if he'll be ok for Sunday?

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