H Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/265121/Southampton-midfielder-Richard-Chaplow-to-snub-Crystal-Palace-move/? Usual in-depth Star piece ... something in this or standard red top nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 The 'fact' that Chaplow appears to be declining it rather than Saints rejecting a bid indicates that he is down the pecking order in Adkins plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Good for him. Wants another crack at establishing himself at PL level. Unlikely to be successful, but I wish him luck and can only beneficial to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Could that maybe have been part of any Zaha deal that may or maybe not ongoing ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITEE1987 Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Was a cracking player at the start of last season. Shame he never really recovered from his injury. Might get a couple of games coming off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Could that maybe have been part of any Zaha deal that may or maybe not ongoing ?? I suppose it's remotely possible if we can't get Lens, Zaha would be another option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 We can´t sell players now - since it´s seems to take forever to get the replacements in - just look on the Harding situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Good for him. Wants another crack at establishing himself at PL level. Unlikely to be successful, but I wish him luck and can only beneficial to us. Agreed entirely, even if he doesn't get much game time, having him around pushing for a place can only be a good thing. It'll push the rest of the squad to train and perform better if somebody is desperate for their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Shame he could do a good job for them, no idea why he'd stick around here to be 5th/6th even 7th choice in the midfield when the second half of last season he really didn't recover well from that injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 His first touch is not good enough at PL level although he is good running onto a ball , when he doesn't have to control it and you can't fault his workrate which is impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Good for him. Wants another crack at establishing himself at PL level. Unlikely to be successful, but I wish him luck and can only beneficial to us. More likely he's on a fair wack now and is unwilling to take a wage cut. His first touch is not good enough - he just doesn't work in a team that attempts to play possession football. I'd be surprised if he gets much game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 More likely he's on a fair wack now and is unwilling to take a wage cut. His first touch is not good enough - he just doesn't work in a team that attempts to play possession football. I'd be surprised if he gets much game time. Bit cynical.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Was a cracking player at the start of last season. Shame he never really recovered from his injury. Might get a couple of games coming off the bench. Yes early last season he was really outstanding - hopefully he still has some of that to offer us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 If Chaplow isn't in Adkins plans you would expect him to be told that he won't feature in the named PL squad. Telling him that might change his mind, so this may not be the end of the matter, but you do wonder how these stories get out unless leaked by the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Good on him. If hes happy here and enjoying himself why should he leave.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Good on him. If hes happy here and enjoying himself why should he leave.. Because he isn't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Bit cynical.. Why? Seems pretty much stop on to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 (edited) Was a cracking player at the start of last season. Shame he never really recovered from his injury. Actually IMO he did eventually recover his fitness after his injury and was for example absolutely outstanding in the Palace away game. Edited 2 August, 2012 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 More likely he's on a fair wack now and is unwilling to take a wage cut. His first touch is not good enough - he just doesn't work in a team that attempts to play possession football. I'd be surprised if he gets much game time. I agree about the wage, you're also right about his first touch, but I don't agree that he doesn't work in a team playing possession football. Fundamental to a passing game is movement off the ball and he moves more off the ball than any other Saints player. When Lallana was out he was outstanding and we missed his drive, movement, and just as importantly closing down of opposition when we lost the ball. That said, I agree with game time comment. Might be a mistake though to think we will pas teams to death like we did in the first half of the season. We might need a `headless chicken' as some describe his ilk to give us some penetration. There weren't many complaining about his first touch when he smashed one past Man U not so long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 I'd be surprised if we were considering letting him go without first sorting out a replacement. On his best form he could hack it in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 More likely he's on a fair wack now and is unwilling to take a wage cut. His first touch is not good enough - he just doesn't work in a team that attempts to play possession football. I'd be surprised if he gets much game time. Agree with this. He's been ok at best for us in the lower leagues and it's a shame not to be getting rid of the likes of him and getting quality replacements in. Davis transfer in should have seen Chappers gone IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Why? Seems pretty much stop on to me. Well, I dont agree. Until we see other purchases take place, the current picture says to me he might still have a role. And I dont understand the resentment of his wages. You begin to sound like Pompey fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 I prefer Chaplow to Hammond any day of the week,until he got injured at Bristol City he was arguably our best player for the first 3 months of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 I prefer Chaplow to Hammond any day of the week,until he got injured at Bristol City he was arguably our best player for the first 3 months of last season. No he wasn;t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfclegend Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 No he wasn;t. he was definitely up there, against West Ham he was awesome.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 How can anyone doubt Chappies quality? Wasn't that him that scored a belter against ManU? Isn't that him that runs box to box - defending for his life one minute, busting a gut to get into the box to score the next? He's like having an extra man in midfield and better than Hammond in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 (edited) How can anyone doubt Chappies quality? Wasn't that him that scored a belter against ManU? Isn't that him that runs box to box - defending for his life one minute, busting a gut to get into the box to score the next? He's like having an extra man in midfield and better than Hammond in my book. Simply being "better than Hammond" won't get Chaplow in the team. Lallana, Cork, Schneiderlin, Davis and possibly Ward-Prowse are all going to be ahead of both of them for a central midfield spot next season. Edited 2 August, 2012 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 His first touch is not good enough I agree with that to be honest. I was at the Derby game last season when i think he got his first start cos Lallanas was injured and all game I was noticing how poor his first touch was, and wishing AL was fit. Then I got home and come on here and was reading bout how he was our best player or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Richard chaplow @Rchap04 “@andrew_halford: @Jayrodfan2 @Rchap04http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/265121/Southampton-midfielder-Richard-Chaplow-to-snub-Crystal-Palace-move/ sports mole also running the same story” what a load off absolute ?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 I agree about the wage, you're also right about his first touch, but I don't agree that he doesn't work in a team playing possession football. Fundamental to a passing game is movement off the ball and he moves more off the ball than any other Saints player. When Lallana was out he was outstanding and we missed his drive, movement, and just as importantly closing down of opposition when we lost the ball. That said, I agree with game time comment. Might be a mistake though to think we will pas teams to death like we did in the first half of the season. We might need a `headless chicken' as some describe his ilk to give us some penetration. There weren't many complaining about his first touch when he smashed one past Man U not so long ago. I don't think he'll be getting any games in the middle of the park now - and the more advanced position he was playing on the right of midfield (as fickle memory serves) at the fag end of last season didn't suit him. The higher up the park you get the less space there is and our moves just always seemed to break down around him. He can carry the ball forward I grant you and he's got a decent shot. As to passing teams to death. I'm looking forward to seeing what sort of tactics Adkins has planned for next season. He's been talking about tweaking them and becoming more defensively solid - I'm guessing we'll be playing even more tappy-tappy and less hit and hope but we'll see I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 How can anyone doubt Chappies quality? Wasn't that him that scored a belter against ManU? Isn't that him that runs box to box - defending for his life one minute, busting a gut to get into the box to score the next? He's like having an extra man in midfield and better than Hammond in my book. It's frightening how much I disagree with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 How can anyone doubt Chappies quality? Wasn't that him that scored a belter against ManU? Isn't that him that runs box to box - defending for his life one minute, busting a gut to get into the box to score the next? He's like having an extra man in midfield and better than Hammond in my book. Simply being "better than Hammond" won't get Chaplow in the team. Cork, Schneiderlin, Davis and Ward-Prowse are all going to be ahead of both of them for a central midfield spot next season. Chappers would be a major loss to us imho, even if he started every PL match on the bench. I agree with every word saints fancam said. MLG makes a valid point I suppose, but until we see Davis and JWP in PL action, who's to say they will be better options than Chaplow? (and yes, I know Steven Davis was Villa's player of the year, but how long ago was that?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 (edited) Chappers would be a major loss to us imho, even if he started every PL match on the bench. I agree with every word saints fancam said. MLG makes a valid point I suppose, but until we see Davis and JWP in PL action, who's to say they will be better options than Chaplow? (and yes, I know Steven Davis was Villa's player of the year, but how long ago was that?) Davis hasn't joined to sit on the bench, he is likely to be one of the top earners (if not the top earner) at the club. I think there is a more than reasonable chance he will soon be our captain and partnered with one/two of Lallana, Cork and Schneiderlin in central midfield (with Ward-Prowse in the long term to break through). Chaplow and Hammond simply aren't technically good enough to compete with the others. Yes, they work very hard but their first touch and passing ability is poor in comparison. Edited 2 August, 2012 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Richard chaplow @Rchap04 I ain't going anywhere 1/ because I don't want and 2/ because saints don't want me to! Can't snub something you know nothing about#baffled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Well, I dont agree. Until we see other purchases take place, the current picture says to me he might still have a role. And I dont understand the resentment of his wages. You begin to sound like Pompey fans. Nonsense. No one has said they have a problem with his wages. Just that if the club were looking to sell, it's unlikely that a champ team would match the wages he's on now. No need to get all dramatic about it comparing posters to pompey fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Richard chaplow @Rchap04 I ain't going anywhere 1/ because I don't want and 2/ because saints don't want me to! Can't snub something you know nothing about#baffled This is why I love about twitter. Makes some reporters look stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 I prefer Chaplow to Hammond any day of the week,until he got injured at Bristol City he was arguably our best player for the first 3 months of last season. Very much so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 he was definitely up there, against West Ham he was awesome.. Guly was better than Chaplow in the first half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Richard chaplow @Rchap04 I ain't going anywhere 1/ because I don't want and 2/ because saints don't want me to! Can't snub something you know nothing about#baffled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Guly was better than Chaplow in the first half of the season. Would agree with that. It only takes a quick watch back at our season videos from Aug > Nov to see how bloody influential Guly actually was, he was class during those opening months. Chaplow was also good in those opening months, but what people seem to forget is that he started as a substitute and only really started to make people sit up with his substitute appearances. Guly was key in every one of our 4 wins on the bounce. His performances against Boro stand out, but he didn't feature enough for me after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Would agree with that. It only takes a quick watch back at our season videos from Aug > Nov to see how bloody influential Guly actually was, he was class during those opening months. Chaplow was also good in those opening months, but what people seem to forget is that he started as a substitute and only really started to make people sit up with his substitute appearances. Guly was key in every one of our 4 wins on the bounce. His performances against Boro stand out, but he didn't feature enough for me after that. Guly's rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Guly's rubbish. But Chaplow is amazing because he runs around alot i'm guessing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Guly's rubbish. Great way to add to the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 English football fans always have and always will prefer a player like Chaplow to a player like Guly on the whole. It's that stupid bull dog/work hard/keep it simple mentality that gets so many people by in this country. Guly is erratic and allows his feelings to show through but is undeniably a better passer/mover/shooter/header of a football than Chaplow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Chappers and Guly have different attributes which will be of varying value depending on the opposition. It isn't a case or one or the other full stop. They will both be valuable squad members (I hope) Also Chappers is Prem Class Twitterer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Richard chaplow @Rchap04 Time for a dog walk, hope the daily star don't see me or the headlines will be barking up the wrong tree!! #fact Richard chaplow @Rchap04 “@BaddesleyBill: @Rchap04 Where do they get these stories from?”#themoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Richard chaplow @Rchap04 Time for a dog walk, hope the daily star don't see me or the headlines will be barking up the wrong tree!! #fact Richard chaplow @Rchap04 “@BaddesleyBill: @Rchap04 Where do they get these stories from?”#themoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 That was a bit quick, almost too quick. #house bugged? #sailor in the garden, peeking through the window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 That was a bit quick, almost too quick. #house bugged? #sailor in the garden, peeking through the window? He obviously has friends in MI5 and Bletchley House LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 He obviously has friends in MI5 and Bletchley House LOL Does BH still exist or is it all done in the west country somewhere now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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