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The 'fact' that Chaplow appears to be declining it rather than Saints rejecting a bid indicates that he is down the pecking order in Adkins plans.

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Could that maybe have been part of any Zaha deal that may or maybe not ongoing ??

 

I suppose it's remotely possible if we can't get Lens, Zaha would be another option.

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Good for him.

 

Wants another crack at establishing himself at PL level.

 

Unlikely to be successful, but I wish him luck and can only beneficial to us.

 

Agreed entirely, even if he doesn't get much game time, having him around pushing for a place can only be a good thing. It'll push the rest of the squad to train and perform better if somebody is desperate for their place.

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Shame he could do a good job for them, no idea why he'd stick around here to be 5th/6th even 7th choice in the midfield when the second half of last season he really didn't recover well from that injury.

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His first touch is not good enough at PL level although he is good running onto a ball , when he doesn't have to control it and you can't fault his workrate which is impressive.

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Good for him.

 

Wants another crack at establishing himself at PL level.

 

Unlikely to be successful, but I wish him luck and can only beneficial to us.

 

More likely he's on a fair wack now and is unwilling to take a wage cut. His first touch is not good enough - he just doesn't work in a team that attempts to play possession football. I'd be surprised if he gets much game time.

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More likely he's on a fair wack now and is unwilling to take a wage cut. His first touch is not good enough - he just doesn't work in a team that attempts to play possession football. I'd be surprised if he gets much game time.

 

Bit cynical..

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Was a cracking player at the start of last season. Shame he never really recovered from his injury. Might get a couple of games coming off the bench.

 

Yes early last season he was really outstanding - hopefully he still has some of that to offer us.

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If Chaplow isn't in Adkins plans you would expect him to be told that he won't feature in the named PL squad. Telling him that might change his mind, so this may not be the end of the matter, but you do wonder how these stories get out unless leaked by the player.

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Was a cracking player at the start of last season. Shame he never really recovered from his injury.

Actually IMO he did eventually recover his fitness after his injury and was for example absolutely outstanding in the Palace away game.

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More likely he's on a fair wack now and is unwilling to take a wage cut. His first touch is not good enough - he just doesn't work in a team that attempts to play possession football. I'd be surprised if he gets much game time.

 

I agree about the wage, you're also right about his first touch, but I don't agree that he doesn't work in a team playing possession football. Fundamental to a passing game is movement off the ball and he moves more off the ball than any other Saints player. When Lallana was out he was outstanding and we missed his drive, movement, and just as importantly closing down of opposition when we lost the ball.

 

That said, I agree with game time comment. Might be a mistake though to think we will pas teams to death like we did in the first half of the season. We might need a `headless chicken' as some describe his ilk to give us some penetration. There weren't many complaining about his first touch when he smashed one past Man U not so long ago.

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More likely he's on a fair wack now and is unwilling to take a wage cut. His first touch is not good enough - he just doesn't work in a team that attempts to play possession football. I'd be surprised if he gets much game time.

 

Agree with this. He's been ok at best for us in the lower leagues and it's a shame not to be getting rid of the likes of him and getting quality replacements in. Davis transfer in should have seen Chappers gone IMO.

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Why? Seems pretty much stop on to me.

 

Well, I dont agree.

 

Until we see other purchases take place, the current picture says to me he might still have a role. And I dont understand the resentment of his wages. You begin to sound like Pompey fans.

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I prefer Chaplow to Hammond any day of the week,until he got injured at Bristol City he was arguably our best player for the first 3 months of last season.

 

No he wasn;t.

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How can anyone doubt Chappies quality? Wasn't that him that scored a belter against ManU? Isn't that him that runs box to box - defending for his life one minute, busting a gut to get into the box to score the next? He's like having an extra man in midfield and better than Hammond in my book.

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How can anyone doubt Chappies quality? Wasn't that him that scored a belter against ManU? Isn't that him that runs box to box - defending for his life one minute, busting a gut to get into the box to score the next? He's like having an extra man in midfield and better than Hammond in my book.

 

Simply being "better than Hammond" won't get Chaplow in the team. Lallana, Cork, Schneiderlin, Davis and possibly Ward-Prowse are all going to be ahead of both of them for a central midfield spot next season.

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His first touch is not good enough

 

I agree with that to be honest. I was at the Derby game last season when i think he got his first start cos Lallanas was injured and all game I was noticing how poor his first touch was, and wishing AL was fit. Then I got home and come on here and was reading bout how he was our best player or whatever.

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I agree about the wage, you're also right about his first touch, but I don't agree that he doesn't work in a team playing possession football. Fundamental to a passing game is movement off the ball and he moves more off the ball than any other Saints player. When Lallana was out he was outstanding and we missed his drive, movement, and just as importantly closing down of opposition when we lost the ball.

 

That said, I agree with game time comment. Might be a mistake though to think we will pas teams to death like we did in the first half of the season. We might need a `headless chicken' as some describe his ilk to give us some penetration. There weren't many complaining about his first touch when he smashed one past Man U not so long ago.

 

I don't think he'll be getting any games in the middle of the park now - and the more advanced position he was playing on the right of midfield (as fickle memory serves) at the fag end of last season didn't suit him. The higher up the park you get the less space there is and our moves just always seemed to break down around him. He can carry the ball forward I grant you and he's got a decent shot.

 

As to passing teams to death. I'm looking forward to seeing what sort of tactics Adkins has planned for next season. He's been talking about tweaking them and becoming more defensively solid - I'm guessing we'll be playing even more tappy-tappy and less hit and hope but we'll see I guess.

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How can anyone doubt Chappies quality? Wasn't that him that scored a belter against ManU? Isn't that him that runs box to box - defending for his life one minute, busting a gut to get into the box to score the next? He's like having an extra man in midfield and better than Hammond in my book.

 

It's frightening how much I disagree with you!

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How can anyone doubt Chappies quality? Wasn't that him that scored a belter against ManU? Isn't that him that runs box to box - defending for his life one minute, busting a gut to get into the box to score the next? He's like having an extra man in midfield and better than Hammond in my book.

 

Simply being "better than Hammond" won't get Chaplow in the team. Cork, Schneiderlin, Davis and Ward-Prowse are all going to be ahead of both of them for a central midfield spot next season.

 

Chappers would be a major loss to us imho, even if he started every PL match on the bench. I agree with every word saints fancam said. MLG makes a valid point I suppose, but until we see Davis and JWP in PL action, who's to say they will be better options than Chaplow? (and yes, I know Steven Davis was Villa's player of the year, but how long ago was that?)

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Chappers would be a major loss to us imho, even if he started every PL match on the bench. I agree with every word saints fancam said. MLG makes a valid point I suppose, but until we see Davis and JWP in PL action, who's to say they will be better options than Chaplow? (and yes, I know Steven Davis was Villa's player of the year, but how long ago was that?)

 

Davis hasn't joined to sit on the bench, he is likely to be one of the top earners (if not the top earner) at the club. I think there is a more than reasonable chance he will soon be our captain and partnered with one/two of Lallana, Cork and Schneiderlin in central midfield (with Ward-Prowse in the long term to break through).

 

Chaplow and Hammond simply aren't technically good enough to compete with the others. Yes, they work very hard but their first touch and passing ability is poor in comparison.

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Well, I dont agree.

 

Until we see other purchases take place, the current picture says to me he might still have a role. And I dont understand the resentment of his wages. You begin to sound like Pompey fans.

 

Nonsense. No one has said they have a problem with his wages. Just that if the club were looking to sell, it's unlikely that a champ team would match the wages he's on now. No need to get all dramatic about it comparing posters to pompey fans.

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he was definitely up there, against West Ham he was awesome..

 

Guly was better than Chaplow in the first half of the season.

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Guly was better than Chaplow in the first half of the season.

 

Would agree with that. It only takes a quick watch back at our season videos from Aug > Nov to see how bloody influential Guly actually was, he was class during those opening months. Chaplow was also good in those opening months, but what people seem to forget is that he started as a substitute and only really started to make people sit up with his substitute appearances. Guly was key in every one of our 4 wins on the bounce. His performances against Boro stand out, but he didn't feature enough for me after that.

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Would agree with that. It only takes a quick watch back at our season videos from Aug > Nov to see how bloody influential Guly actually was, he was class during those opening months. Chaplow was also good in those opening months, but what people seem to forget is that he started as a substitute and only really started to make people sit up with his substitute appearances. Guly was key in every one of our 4 wins on the bounce. His performances against Boro stand out, but he didn't feature enough for me after that.

 

Guly's rubbish.

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English football fans always have and always will prefer a player like Chaplow to a player like Guly on the whole. It's that stupid bull dog/work hard/keep it simple mentality that gets so many people by in this country. Guly is erratic and allows his feelings to show through but is undeniably a better passer/mover/shooter/header of a football than Chaplow.

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Chappers and Guly have different attributes which will be of varying value depending on the opposition.

 

It isn't a case or one or the other full stop. They will both be valuable squad members (I hope)

 

Also Chappers is Prem Class Twitterer ;)

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