Saint Charlie Posted 1 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Not sure if anyone has been onto any other teams sites recently but a lot of them have changed to a new supplier and are almost unusable, absolutely awful. Pages don't load or take ages, articles are chopped about, things appear on top of each other - the Pboro Chairman on Twitter just said he is mad about it. Anyone know what the situation with ours is? I like the current layout and it would be annoying if we move over. If anyone wants to see what I mean check these (it might be on certain browsers): http://www.theposh.com/page/Welcome http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/Welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Not sure if anyone has been onto any other teams sites recently but a lot of them have changed to a new supplier and are almost unusable, absolutely awful. Pages don't load or take ages, articles are chopped about, things appear on top of each other - the Pboro Chairman on Twitter just said he is mad about it. Anyone know what the situation with ours is? I like the current layout and it would be annoying if we move over. If anyone wants to see what I mean check these (it might be on certain browsers): http://www.theposh.com/page/Welcome http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/Welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 "HOME PAGE" I see they are employing people fresh out of "how to build your own webpage" school! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 "HOME PAGE" I see they are employing people fresh out of "how to build your own webpage" school! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 I've got no issue with them redesigning the sites but the golden rule is it needs to be usable. Clearly these aren't great. The current one isn't the quickest or most user friendly either... the organisation and sheer number of pages itself can be confusing, but we've got used to it. I'd rather they scrapped it completely and went with a local independent web design company but I don't think that can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 I've got no issue with them redesigning the sites but the golden rule is it needs to be usable. Clearly these aren't great. The current one isn't the quickest or most user friendly either... the organisation and sheer number of pages itself can be confusing, but we've got used to it. I'd rather they scrapped it completely and went with a local independent web design company but I don't think that can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 1 August, 2012 I've got no issue with them redesigning the sites but the golden rule is it needs to be usable. Clearly these aren't great. The current one isn't the quickest or most user friendly either... the organisation and sheer number of pages itself can be confusing, but we've got used to it. I'd rather they scrapped it completely and went with a local independent web design company but I don't think that can happen. Yeah im not sure how the deal works but think the sites are pretty standard across the country apart from a few. Maybe we won't get one like those links as we havent as yet and as you said first rule is that it needs to be usable. Once ours does load it is quite clear and as someone said above, its just a place to read official news, but the linked sites you can barely read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 1 August, 2012 I've got no issue with them redesigning the sites but the golden rule is it needs to be usable. Clearly these aren't great. The current one isn't the quickest or most user friendly either... the organisation and sheer number of pages itself can be confusing, but we've got used to it. I'd rather they scrapped it completely and went with a local independent web design company but I don't think that can happen. Yeah im not sure how the deal works but think the sites are pretty standard across the country apart from a few. Maybe we won't get one like those links as we havent as yet and as you said first rule is that it needs to be usable. Once ours does load it is quite clear and as someone said above, its just a place to read official news, but the linked sites you can barely read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Having built two sites for Premier League teams, I can tell you, they are nothing more than advertising platforms. Usability comes last. It makes me sad inside. The Coventry (Man) City template isn't too bad... http://www.ccfc.co.uk/page/Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Having built two sites for Premier League teams, I can tell you, they are nothing more than advertising platforms. Usability comes last. It makes me sad inside. The Coventry (Man) City template isn't too bad... http://www.ccfc.co.uk/page/Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Anyone noticed how we've still go things like nPower 72 club on our OS? Needs updating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Anyone noticed how we've still go things like nPower 72 club on our OS? Needs updating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Having built two sites for Premier League teams, I can tell you, they are nothing more than advertising platforms. Usability comes last. It makes me sad inside. The Coventry (Man) City template isn't too bad... http://www.ccfc.co.uk/page/Home You work for VML? To be fair there aren't that many local digital agencies that could do a good job on such a large project, also i'd imagine it's the usual problems of budget, stakeholders and timelines that dictate the quality of the project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 You work for VML? To be fair there aren't that many local digital agencies that could do a good job on such a large project, also i'd imagine it's the usual problems of budget, stakeholders and timelines that dictate the quality of the project. Nope, don't work for VML. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 You work for VML? More like FML. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Nope, don't work for VML. Ah misread it, i thought you said you did the Premier League site, since i know VML did the last build of the Premier League site as i know someone that worked there, besides mate you know where i work anyway since you can just ask yaxley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Ah misread it, i thought you said you did the Premier League site, since i know VML did the last build of the Premier League site as i know someone that worked there, besides mate you know where i work anyway since you can just ask yaxley Ah-hah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 I've seen worse, to be fair. No major rendering issues on my screen (viewed in Chrome). Usability's not great but then most websites fall at this hurdle. The biggest crime is the splash page on initial load - the call to action to enter the flipping site is near-invisible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 They may not be web builders directly, but might this not be a good time to utilise our partnership with AAP3 and see if they can coordinate a new and unique web presence for the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Fair play to those clubs who are opted away from the normal web design. Im sick of our site being the same as most other teams in the FL and Prem. We should try something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 one for ericb really as he works for the competition: http://www.htafc.com/news/article/club-news-website-update-271666.aspx what a stinking press release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Fair play to those clubs who are opted away from the normal web design. Im sick of our site being the same as most other teams in the FL and Prem. We should try something different. It's not so much a matter of opting away from the normal design, most clubs had their own websites before the "template" option came along about 10 years ago. We were quite late defaulting over to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozz Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 one for ericb really as he works for the competition: http://www.htafc.com/news/article/club-news-website-update-271666.aspx what a stinking press release. I take it from that Huddersfield statement that we'll be moving as well then if all of the 'FL Interactive' clubs are being moved from Perform to Sapient Nitro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Who actually uses the official site anyway? I only go on ours to read a breaking news story or to check fixtures. You do, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 one for ericb really as he works for the competition: http://www.htafc.com/news/article/club-news-website-update-271666.aspx what a stinking press release. This part cant be true then? All Football League club websites are currently in the process of re-launching and as a result the system is not as quick as it should be. The deadline for all site launches is 31 July, at which point the speed of service is expected to improve. As we haven't launched yet, Burnley haven't, Bristol City haven't, Coventry haven't etc what happens? I know that Cortese has previously said that as soon as we can get out of the contract then we will but what about the other clubs now that we're past the supposed 'launch deadline'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 I was on Man City's the other day and remember thinking how good and user friendly it was or whatever. We should get one like theirs! http://www.mcfc.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 we are moving, it's obviously late. for once I am ITK :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 I was on Man City's the other day and remember thinking how good and user friendly it was or whatever. We should get one like theirs! http://www.mcfc.co.uk/ It was reported to have cost them around £2m in total. It was also massively late in delivery. It's rather special though and has certainly set a precedence in to what a sports site could be like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Oh ****.... http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2869089,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Well, lets see how it performs before we slate it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Well, lets see how it performs before we slate it... Fair enough. See Coventry have now launched theirs. Their site is pretty snappy compared to the other ones currently out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Is ours going to be the same as those awful new ones then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Is ours going to be the same as those awful new ones then? It would appear the design is pretty much the same, but it's more the performance I'm interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Oh ****.... http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2869089,00.html The new design focuses heavily on imagery and photography Oh good, that means the new design focuses on being really slow to load, especially on mobile devices... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Oh good, that means the new design focuses on being really slow to load, especially on mobile devices... There will eventually be a mobile site (out in September) but they're holding them back for the time being until all of the main websites are rolled out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Fair play to those clubs who are opted away from the normal web design. Im sick of our site being the same as most other teams in the FL and Prem. We should try something different. Thats a bit weird. Are all the sites that used the same design as our current one getting theirs upgraded too? Basicially will I be able to use my Player login on loads of other club sites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 (edited) Thats a bit weird. Are all the sites that used the same design as our current one getting theirs upgraded too? Basicially will I be able to use my Player login on loads of other club sites? Every club who is part of FLi (Football League Interactive) and currently have the standard / common design site, are in the process of redesigning using the new templates and moving to the new provider - SapientNitro. I know that Burnley and Bristol City are still sorting out the links, redesigning and figuring out how it works. This therefore means that we should still, in theory, be able to use our Saints Player logins on other clubs sites. EDIT: Just checked and I can still login to the other clubs updated sites with my Saints Player login. All good! Edited 2 August, 2012 by itchen_dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Was kind of hoping that we'd have our own style website and not the bog standard one which many teams have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Was kind of hoping that we'd have our own style website and not the bog standard one which many teams have. The problem with this is the contract that all of the clubs are in. We all know that Cortese has said that as soon as we can get out of it then we will but until that point, we're stuck with the same as everyone else. It's exactly the same as the Peterborough chairman said on Twitter yesterday. DMAC102: Btw those fans who are driven mad by new look website & way its operating,I apologise & am just as irritated/frustrated & pushing for - DMAC102: A solution of some sorts but as ya know we are tied into a contract which doesnt help the cause..but I am on it big time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Fair enough, I'm sure the club have their own ideas in the pipeline, especially as we're sponsored by AAP3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Not sure if anyone has been onto any other teams sites recently but a lot of them have changed to a new supplier and are almost unusable, absolutely awful. Pages don't load or take ages, articles are chopped about, things appear on top of each other - the Pboro Chairman on Twitter just said he is mad about it. Anyone know what the situation with ours is? I like the current layout and it would be annoying if we move over. If anyone wants to see what I mean check these (it might be on certain browsers): http://www.theposh.com/page/Welcome http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/Welcome "HOME PAGE" I see they are employing people fresh out of "how to build your own webpage" school! Having built two sites for Premier League teams, I can tell you, they are nothing more than advertising platforms. Usability comes last. It makes me sad inside. The Coventry (Man) City template isn't too bad... http://www.ccfc.co.uk/page/Home I don't know if they have improved since being launched but I am having NO difficulty in viewing those pages and they look quite good! The Posh one has the boring outdated 'Home Page' on the page tab, but the Stoke City one says 'Stoke City FC Official Website'. As to the suggestion that the Coventry City one looks good, I personally think it has too much content on the one page and I prefer the other ones! Looking at the Man City website it doesn't look all that different to the other ones except that it doesn't have the annoying 'Enable cookies' page at launch and has a video instead. I would go as far as to suggest that it looks as though it has been created by the same company! I am looking forward to seeing what the new Saints website will look like. I'm not sure about black as the background colour, but at least it's not blue!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Our old OS was better than it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 (edited) And it is now LIVE! http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/Home Credit where it is due, site is very snappy and responsive and I like the background images. So far so good... Edited 2 August, 2012 by itchen_dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Blah Better by far, but still another copy and paste jobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Decent but one problem is that it appears to be incredibly slow for me...far slower than the old one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runaway Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Well it's slow and impossible to load/navigate on an iPhone. FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Seems pretty good on my I-pad looks decent quite quick to load & pretty responsive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red And White Barmy Army Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 No Hammond? Anyone else missing? Could be just the site not functioning properly of course! http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/stats/player-stats/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 The player stats were out of date on the old design already, I don't think there is any different content at all, just the design has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 2 August, 2012 Share Posted 2 August, 2012 Tons better than the last one. That's from a professional, as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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