JackFrost Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 If Stanning and Glover dont get gold this morning, Team GB might as well go home.... And then they'd achieve exactly what you're complaining about. Personally I think our athletes would have a higher chance of getting a gold medal if they continued to try their hardest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Just bought tickets for the boxing tonight. 2 Brits fighting so atmosphere should be great. There were loads of other tickets for today available earlier although they went really quickly. Tried to get some for Basketball but the system just wasn't having it. Would have gone to the table tennis too but not paying £125 as the cheaper few tickets just went in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Just bought tickets for the boxing tonight. 2 Brits fighting so atmosphere should be great. There were loads of other tickets for today available earlier although they went really quickly. Tried to get some for Basketball but the system just wasn't having it. Would have gone to the table tennis too but not paying £125 as the cheaper few tickets just went in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Seriously though alps, do you not see how your contributions are so tediously negative (IMO)... little in the way of support or recognition for the efforts that these Olympians have made, only a brief celebration if they win a medal, and utter condemnation for anything else. Maybe that's just you and so be it, but if I was a competitor I'd be a bit peed off if my efforts were given such little respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Seriously though alps, do you not see how your contributions are so tediously negative (IMO)... little in the way of support or recognition for the efforts that these Olympians have made, only a brief celebration if they win a medal, and utter condemnation for anything else. Maybe that's just you and so be it, but if I was a competitor I'd be a bit peed off if my efforts were given such little respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Am I being pedantic when getting annoyed that Phelps is heralded as the greatest olympian ever? Sure he is the greatest Swimmer in the Olympic games, but given they can enter so many categories compared to the other sports, it seems a bit OTT. Fantatstic achievement and amazing career, but is it any difference to say if Ben Ainsley was given a mendal for each race rather than just the series, or if there were 10 races of different lengths? I know, being churlish, but surely these kind of statements need to be tempered relative to the opportunity for medals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Am I being pedantic when getting annoyed that Phelps is heralded as the greatest olympian ever? Sure he is the greatest Swimmer in the Olympic games, but given they can enter so many categories compared to the other sports, it seems a bit OTT. Fantatstic achievement and amazing career, but is it any difference to say if Ben Ainsley was given a mendal for each race rather than just the series, or if there were 10 races of different lengths? I know, being churlish, but surely these kind of statements need to be tempered relative to the opportunity for medals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Oh well done Stanning and Glover - our first gold! Stunning performance. Good to see the girls are leading the way in our medal haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Oh well done Stanning and Glover - our first gold! Stunning performance. Good to see the girls are leading the way in our medal haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Good job, or else we would've had to go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Good job, or else we would've had to go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 And there's our first gold. Women's rowing. great performance. First of many hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 And there's our first gold. Women's rowing. great performance. First of many hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Seriously though alps, do you not see how your contributions are so tediously negative (IMO)... little in the way of support or recognition for the efforts that these Olympians have made, only a brief celebration if they win a medal, and utter condemnation for anything else. Maybe that's just you and so be it, but if I was a competitor I'd be a bit peed off if my efforts were given such little respect. It has nothing to do with the efforts of the competitors or teams at all. I think I have a pretty good idea of what some of them go through for their sport. I am frustrated with what I see as something weak or missing in our national psyche that means we see all sport as a f**king cricket match. With cucumber sandwiches at tea. We lack the aggression and drive to really be top-of-the-pile, to be the best. We are too wrapped up in the participation thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Seriously though alps, do you not see how your contributions are so tediously negative (IMO)... little in the way of support or recognition for the efforts that these Olympians have made, only a brief celebration if they win a medal, and utter condemnation for anything else. Maybe that's just you and so be it, but if I was a competitor I'd be a bit peed off if my efforts were given such little respect. It has nothing to do with the efforts of the competitors or teams at all. I think I have a pretty good idea of what some of them go through for their sport. I am frustrated with what I see as something weak or missing in our national psyche that means we see all sport as a f**king cricket match. With cucumber sandwiches at tea. We lack the aggression and drive to really be top-of-the-pile, to be the best. We are too wrapped up in the participation thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Oh well done Stanning and Glover - our first gold! Stunning performance. Good to see the girls are leading the way in our medal haul. Excellent news. Hope this takes the pressure off a few and lets the floodgates open. Well done ladies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Oh well done Stanning and Glover - our first gold! Stunning performance. Good to see the girls are leading the way in our medal haul. Excellent news. Hope this takes the pressure off a few and lets the floodgates open. Well done ladies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 It has nothing to do with the efforts of the competitors or teams at all. I think I have a pretty good idea of what some of them go through for their sport. I am frustrated with what I see as something weak or missing in our national psyche that means we see all sport as a f**king cricket match. With cucumber sandwiches at tea. We lack the aggression and drive to really be top-of-the-pile, to be the best. We are too wrapped up in the participation thing. Apart from the fact we have produced numerous world champions in many different sports from rowing to formula 1. Yes we aren't go to out do the like of China in a medals table but they have quite a few more people to choose from. Try telling the likes of Daley, Wiggins Cavendish, Redgrave etc that they don't have/didn't have the drive to be the best and see what they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 It has nothing to do with the efforts of the competitors or teams at all. I think I have a pretty good idea of what some of them go through for their sport. I am frustrated with what I see as something weak or missing in our national psyche that means we see all sport as a f**king cricket match. With cucumber sandwiches at tea. We lack the aggression and drive to really be top-of-the-pile, to be the best. We are too wrapped up in the participation thing. Apart from the fact we have produced numerous world champions in many different sports from rowing to formula 1. Yes we aren't go to out do the like of China in a medals table but they have quite a few more people to choose from. Try telling the likes of Daley, Wiggins Cavendish, Redgrave etc that they don't have/didn't have the drive to be the best and see what they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Well I guess the key is that that is how you see it alps... i would suggest that most others, whilst we all share frustrations about things we might miss out on, don't express it in the same way you do. If 'we might as well go home' because of one event, that hardly suggest you're the most supportive of the efforts that are being made. But hey, that's just you I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Well I guess the key is that that is how you see it alps... i would suggest that most others, whilst we all share frustrations about things we might miss out on, don't express it in the same way you do. If 'we might as well go home' because of one event, that hardly suggest you're the most supportive of the efforts that are being made. But hey, that's just you I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Am I being pedantic when getting annoyed that Phelps is heralded as the greatest olympian ever? Yes. Hope that phelps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Am I being pedantic when getting annoyed that Phelps is heralded as the greatest olympian ever? Yes. Hope that phelps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Great effort by the girls, the noise from the crowd gave me goosebumps. Looking forward to the time trails later this afternoon and the swimming this evening, Come on GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Great effort by the girls, the noise from the crowd gave me goosebumps. Looking forward to the time trails later this afternoon and the swimming this evening, Come on GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Brilliant! Proud to be British. Well done rowers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Brilliant! Proud to be British. Well done rowers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Top notch, well done girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Top notch, well done girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Wow - awesome men's 8! Well done chaps - bronze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Wow - awesome men's 8! Well done chaps - bronze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Well I guess the key is that that is how you see it alps... i would suggest that most others, whilst we all share frustrations about things we might miss out on, don't express it in the same way you do. If 'we might as well go home' because of one event, that hardly suggest you're the most supportive of the efforts that are being made. But hey, that's just you I guess. The "might as well go home" comment was deserved. Those girls were so nailed-on to win gold, that if they couldnt have done it and conspired to screw-up, most likely none of our other prospects would have been able to either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Well I guess the key is that that is how you see it alps... i would suggest that most others, whilst we all share frustrations about things we might miss out on, don't express it in the same way you do. If 'we might as well go home' because of one event, that hardly suggest you're the most supportive of the efforts that are being made. But hey, that's just you I guess. The "might as well go home" comment was deserved. Those girls were so nailed-on to win gold, that if they couldnt have done it and conspired to screw-up, most likely none of our other prospects would have been able to either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 The "might as well go home" comment was deserved. Those girls were so nailed-on to win gold, that if they couldnt have done it and conspired to screw-up, most likely none of our other prospects would have been able to either. Nothing is ever nailed on. Any number of things can influence a result especially in the Olympics. How many times does someone completely unexpected come out of left field to win. It happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 The "might as well go home" comment was deserved. Those girls were so nailed-on to win gold, that if they couldnt have done it and conspired to screw-up, most likely none of our other prospects would have been able to either. Nothing is ever nailed on. Any number of things can influence a result especially in the Olympics. How many times does someone completely unexpected come out of left field to win. It happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Nothing is ever nailed on. Any number of things can influence a result especially in the Olympics. How many times does someone completely unexpected come out of left field to win. It happens Yes, I see German, Chinese and American nailed-on medal prospects bombing all over these Olympics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Nothing is ever nailed on. Any number of things can influence a result especially in the Olympics. How many times does someone completely unexpected come out of left field to win. It happens Yes, I see German, Chinese and American nailed-on medal prospects bombing all over these Olympics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 The "might as well go home" comment was deserved. Those girls were so nailed-on to win gold, that if they couldnt have done it and conspired to screw-up, most likely none of our other prospects would have been able to either. You seem to make no allowance for other teams over-performing or 'pulling one out of the bag'. The favourites do not always win. This is why sport is so compelling... underdogs can succeed, favourites can sometimes fall short. You make it all sound so simplistic. And to then make the link that one potential failure would affect everyone else...?! Well, I can only hope you never seek to coach or teach anyone because that kind of mentality would stop many athletes before they got very far. Have you ever fallen short at something? Or do you always achieve everything you set out to? If you were beaten at something by someone who put in an exceptional performance, would you give up? If everyone slated you as a result, how would you feel? You do the same with Saints... grudging credit only when we win, unable to see merit in any performance if we don't, and you sap the enthusiasm out of anyone who listens. YOU might think you're right, clearly, but sometimes you have to stop and look around at the influence you're having and think about why other people hold the opinion of you that they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 The "might as well go home" comment was deserved. Those girls were so nailed-on to win gold, that if they couldnt have done it and conspired to screw-up, most likely none of our other prospects would have been able to either. You seem to make no allowance for other teams over-performing or 'pulling one out of the bag'. The favourites do not always win. This is why sport is so compelling... underdogs can succeed, favourites can sometimes fall short. You make it all sound so simplistic. And to then make the link that one potential failure would affect everyone else...?! Well, I can only hope you never seek to coach or teach anyone because that kind of mentality would stop many athletes before they got very far. Have you ever fallen short at something? Or do you always achieve everything you set out to? If you were beaten at something by someone who put in an exceptional performance, would you give up? If everyone slated you as a result, how would you feel? You do the same with Saints... grudging credit only when we win, unable to see merit in any performance if we don't, and you sap the enthusiasm out of anyone who listens. YOU might think you're right, clearly, but sometimes you have to stop and look around at the influence you're having and think about why other people hold the opinion of you that they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 the badminton 'cheats' have been disqualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 the badminton 'cheats' have been disqualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Yes, I see German, Chinese and American nailed-on medal prospects bombing all over these Olympics Mary Decker was "nailed-on" in '84, do you remember what happened to her? Daley Thompson was "nailed-on" in '88, the pole broke & he was subsequently injured. Nothing in sport is "nailed-on", there are numerous factors that can mess things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Yes, I see German, Chinese and American nailed-on medal prospects bombing all over these Olympics So you expected to see Kazahkstan and North Korea winning golds then did you? You expected Phelps to stumble in the qualifier for the 400m Individual medley. If you manage to be so accurate with your predictions then Alps, how come you can't translate that to winning big on sports beta or the lottery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 1 August, 2012 The empty seat situation is bad and the way to resolve it is a great idea. Like filling it with the volunteers/forces and re -selling them for a highly reduced price at the park However, utterly utterly pathetically executed on the ground by complete jobsworths. Hence why you are still seeing empty seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 (edited) No medal for Team GB in womans time-trial. Apparently it wasnt the right sort of course for the GB best time-trialler, Emma Pooley. Who the f**ck sets these courses ? Can you imaging the French, Yanks, Chinese or Russians throwing away home advantages by setting crap courses for their athletes ? This infuriating cricket-match sh*t raises its ugly head - again !!! Its like this French first announcement b*ll*cks. Whats wrong with us - is patriotism vulgar, or even worse forbidden in the UK nowadays ? Edited 1 August, 2012 by alpine_saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Am I being pedantic when getting annoyed that Phelps is heralded as the greatest olympian ever? Sure he is the greatest Swimmer in the Olympic games' date=' but given they can enter so many categories compared to the other sports, it seems a bit OTT. Fantatstic achievement and amazing career, but is it any difference to say if Ben Ainsley was given a mendal for each race rather than just the series, or if there were 10 races of different lengths? I know, being churlish, but surely these kind of statements need to be tempered relative to the opportunity for medals?[/quote'] Very true. Best ever winner of medals - without a doubt, best ever swimmer - certainly but best ever Olympian? And is winning a medal what it is all about? FWIW my vote would go to Mohamed Ali Rashwan a member of the Egyptian Judo team in 1984. In the final of his class in 1984 he was up against a Japanese (Yama****a) who had injured his right leg in an earlier round. The Egyptian refused to attack Yama****a's right leg as he believed it would be unfair to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Very true. Best ever winner of medals - without a doubt, best ever swimmer - certainly but best ever Olympian? And is winning a medal what it is all about? FWIW my vote would go to Mohamed Ali Rashwan a member of the Egyptian Judo team in 1984. In the final of his class in 1984 he was up against a Japanese (Yama****a) who had injured his right leg in an earlier round. The Egyptian refused to attack Yama****a's right leg as he believed it would be unfair to do so. I forgot about the censor! So let's call him Yamashta and leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Couldn't believe what I was hearing this morning about the Badminton teams deliberately losing. Completely goes against the spirit of the Olympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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