ericofarabia Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 What impressed me was the way he showed for, and then demanded the ball. At 17. Reminded me a bit of Stevie William's debut at The Cauldron of Hate v skatesmuff in 76.
View From The Top Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 His display was Williamsque. For the younger fans, that's high praise indeed.
Willo Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 He reminded me of Fabregas's debut against Man Utd in the charity shield years ago. Not saying he is in the same league as Fabregas's, but the way he demanded the ball, kept moving, and felt completely comfortable against more experienced players. He is class.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 Can someone throw together a youtube montage so i can see how good he really is
Faz Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 Can someone throw together a youtube montage so i can see how good he really is Wenger has one, I'll see if he still wants it.
farawaysaint Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 Very very impressed with the kid. JWP Saints star of the future! **** off in advance Wenger
beatlesaint Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 His display was Williamsque. For the younger fans, that's high praise indeed. Certainly is, and yeah very much in the mould.
Golden Balls Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 I look forward to Neil Allen claiming him as theirs.
krissyboy31 Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 I look forward to Neil Allen claiming him as theirs. Whilst covering the Blue Square South division.
Saint_clark Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 I really like Lallana with the freedom in a 5 man midfield. Jwp was simply outstanding. IMO ahead of jack cork on that performance, full of energy and more offensive thinking also. He will play a big part this year. Future star no doubt He wasn't really playing with freedom though. He even said himself in interviews that playing more centrally means he has to be more disciplined and track back more.
Ash Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 The night he was conceived I predicted that he would go on to be the best footballer in the world evereverever. I think I win.
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 The night he was conceived I predicted that he would go on to be the best footballer in the world evereverever. I think I win. Be careful the CSA watch these sites! ;-)
verlaine1979 Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 He popped up in the penalty area at least twice during open play, which is quite unusual for one of our central midfielders - for that alone I think he should start...
Leicestersaint Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 Great prospect - and elt's tell Arsenal to go and take a jump!
thesaint sfc Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 I've said it for years, a star in the making. Love him, so technical, so agile yet so confident and plays beyond his age. His got the football brain and the ability to find space, which is a telling sign of a class player. He will be an England international, I'll stand by that. Totally in the Jack Wiltshire mold, class class act. ghey
Junior Mullet Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 First time I've seen him. About time we developed a good central midfielder. A little bit Steven Gerrardesque anyone?
Verbal Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 The Williams comparison is interesting because we're back to the one-touch, short-passing game that worked so well when he was around. Of course, Williams at his best had Ball...
Ewell Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 His display was Williamsque. For the younger fans, that's high praise indeed. From what I have seen of him I would agree. He is definitely a better prospect than any of the other central midfielders we have other than Davis who I have not seen play for us yet.
jawillwill Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 How do you pronounce his name? I always thought it was Prow-se (exactly how it's spelt). Channel 5 kept calling him "Pro-se". Have I been wrong all this time?
Saint Garrett Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 I call him Prow'se....I think the commentators just werent very good. They called Guly 'Julie' and also called Guly 'Clyne'!!
RobM Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 The night he was conceived I predicted that he would go on to be the best footballer in the world evereverever. I think I win. Wow, so slow. I predicted it the night I sat with his Dad's jonnies and a pair of scissors, muttering 'this is for football'...
scotty Posted 29 July, 2012 Posted 29 July, 2012 Wow, so slow. I predicted it the night I sat with his Dad's jonnies and a pair of scissors, muttering 'this is for football'... So you admit to tampering with a skate's condoms? Shame on you, I hope you washed your hands....
Mouldy Coat Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 He wasn't really playing with freedom though. He even said himself in interviews that playing more centrally means he has to be more disciplined and track back more. Although we are digressing slightly, when we have the ball, Lallana has more freedom playing centrally as he can drift left, right, come deep etc and is therefore harder to mark/ double up on as easy as if he is isolated out wide. When we are defending it means he has generally got more running to do though, but i think he will be more effective in that central role than being out wide.
david in sweden Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 The Williams comparison is interesting because we're back to the one-touch, short-passing game that worked so well when he was around. Of course, Williams at his best had Ball... my thoughts exactly.....Steve Williams was quoted as saying... that as a youngster, he stood on the Highbury terraces and watched his "hero" ...Alan Ball play in the Arsenal side. Less than 5 years later he was playing alongside him... in the Saints team.. ......but perhaps Guly or Steve Davis will play that same " Bally " role for JWP?...
Danbert Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 He reminded me of Fabregas's debut against Man Utd in the charity shield years ago. Not saying he is in the same league as Fabregas's, but the way he demanded the ball, kept moving, and felt completely comfortable against more experienced players. He is class. He reminded me of Pele's and Maradonna's debuts. There is no question he is the greatest footballer this planet will ever see.
Monk Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Watch me rattle the cage. I rate him more than Tom Cleverly.
Greenridge Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Can you all stop trolling please and running this thread. Griffo is entitled to his opinion and you shouldn't mock him for it. A fine upstanding member of the Waltish gang.
Thedelldays Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Watch me rattle the cage. I rate him more than Tom Cleverly. That is a fair comment. JWP has never started a league game. Never played in a top flight game/squad and has done well in a few friendliest Cleverley could only aspire for that
View From The Top Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 A fine upstanding member of the Waltish gang. Are you stalking Turkish as it appears to me that you are.
Monk Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 That is a fair comment. JWP has never started a league game. Never played in a top flight game/squad and has done well in a few friendliest Cleverley could only aspire for that Still think he's a better player.
The Kraken Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Amazing Naivety and Saints over-enthusiasm at its very best.
H Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Are you stalking Turkish as it appears to me that you are. Are you kissing Turkish's ring again as it appears to me that you are.
View From The Top Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Are you kissing Turkish's ring again as it appears to me that you are. Yeah, right, wondering why the poster in question appears to follow Turkish around as some sort of cyber stalker is really sucking up. It just happens to make Greenridge look a bit sad & just gives Turkish more ammo to bait him. Now I happen to know Turkish & have done for quite a while & I accept he chats boll.oxs at times & bangs on about supa fans far too much but I also know that every now & then he gets a bit of info & if he drops a hint that he's got some then I know, from experience, that it's sound.
Greenridge Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Yeah, right, wondering why the poster in question appears to follow Turkish around as some sort of cyber stalker is really sucking up. It just happens to make Greenridge look a bit sad & just gives Turkish more ammo to bait him. Now I happen to know Turkish & have done for quite a while & I accept he chats boll.oxs at times & bangs on about supa fans far too much but I also know that every now & then he gets a bit of info & if he drops a hint that he's got some then I know, from experience, that it's sound. As for looking sad I guess if I flooded every thread with the same old doo da then that might be the case. In a Walter type of way you might say.
View From The Top Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 As for looking sad I guess if I flooded every thread with the same old doo da then that might be the case. In a Walter type of way you might say. I'm not defending him, it annoys me as well on some threads, but following him around attempting & I assure you, totally failing, to bait him strikes me as being just as bad.
Greenridge Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 I'm not defending him, it annoys me as well on some threads, but following him around attempting & I assure you, totally failing, to bait him strikes me as being just as bad. Yes I can only imagine that someone coming on to a thread and just posting a load of tripe must be really irritating for the other posters on the thread and the forum membership in total. I'm sure the irony of that won't be lost by Walt and the gang.
Sparky_Mark Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 I have said since he was promoted to the first team that he will start against City, also feel that after a few games Shaw will get the nod ahead of Fox, these two seem to be class class acts! Futures looking good!
The9 Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Thing is, even if Adkins IS planning on incorporating Ward-Prowse into the side as a regular starter by the end of the season, chucking him in to get destroyed by Man City at the Etihad is a really bad idea. That's the one place where experience will be vital, and we're not going to be starting with a bunch of kids who haven't played a Prem game in that match.
The Kraken Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Thing is, even if Adkins IS planning on incorporating Ward-Prowse into the side as a regular starter by the end of the season, chucking him in to get destroyed by Man City at the Etihad is a really bad idea. That's the one place where experience will be vital, and we're not going to be starting with a bunch of kids who haven't played a Prem game in that match. Ordinarily I'd agree, but I think its telling that JWP started against a side as good as Ajax while Cork was unavailable and Hammond and Chaplow started on the bench. I imagine Cork will come back as a starter and JWP go back into reserve, but if he keeps putting in decent performances then he's still in with a chance, what with Cork missing out on so many games for us and with us now playing a completely new formation to last season.
trousers Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 I'm as convinced as a man with a hunch can be that JWP will be in the starting line-up vs Man City
View From The Top Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Yes I can only imagine that someone coming on to a thread and just posting a load of tripe must be really irritating for the other posters on the thread and the forum membership in total. I'm sure the irony of that won't be lost by Walt and the gang. How very odd.
View From The Top Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 I'm as convinced as a man with a hunch can be that JWP will be in the starting line-up vs Man City He certainly appears to be ahead in the pecking order, in front of Hammond & Chaplow.
Saint Garrett Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 I'm as convinced as a man with a hunch can be that JWP will be in the starting line-up vs Man City Davis/Morgan will be our first choice CM I think, with maybe Cork playing if we play with 3 CM. JWP's job to push them out IMO but he looks more than capable. Was hugely impressed by him on Saturday.
The Kraken Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Davis/Morgan will be our first choice CM I think, with maybe Cork playing if we play with 3 CM. JWP's job to push them out IMO but he looks more than capable. Was hugely impressed by him on Saturday. It looks like 4-3-3 will be our choice formation, so we'll very often have 3 CMs. I can see that being with Lallana playing more centrally and JRod left wing in some games, whereas we may look to keep it tighter for some games with just one striker and for those potentially play Lallana on the left and 3 of Cork, Schneiderlin, Davis, JWP, Hammond in the middle.
The9 Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 (edited) Ordinarily I'd agree, but I think its telling that JWP started against a side as good as Ajax while Cork was unavailable and Hammond and Chaplow started on the bench. I imagine Cork will come back as a starter and JWP go back into reserve, but if he keeps putting in decent performances then he's still in with a chance, what with Cork missing out on so many games for us and with us now playing a completely new formation to last season. I agree with that, but I think in terms of Ward-Prowse's long-term development a Prem debut at home to Wigan might be a more encouraging prospect than one away to Man City. Cork could be well off the pace for the first few weeks, not training with the rest of the squad, doing lighter tournament training and sitting on the bench for GB instead of getting matches. Ward-Prowse is also going to improve more and learn more by playing pre-season than any of the other midfielders. Will be interesting to see who plays in the Udinese match, which would usually be the dress-rehearsal for the first match of the season. Edited 30 July, 2012 by The9
The Kraken Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 I agree with that, but I think in terms of Ward-Prowse's long-term development a Prem debut at home to Wigan might be a more encouraging prospect than one away to Man City. Cork could be well off the pace for the first few weeks, not training with the rest of the squad, doing lighter tournament training and sitting on the bench for GB instead of getting matches. There's a reasonable chance neither Cork nor Davis will be up to it if they keep missing games. The longer Team GB go in the tournament, the worse for us. Davis I simply can't see being match fit for the start of the season, he's not even in full training yet and hasn't played a game. cork I would imagine would be much more likely to be fit, but its just a case of him learning very quickly how to fit into the new system. I don't see Hammond getting much game time at all, perhaps just the odd 10 of 15 minutes here or there. I agree throwing JWP into a Man City cauldron is far from ideal, but if NA thinks he's up to it then I guess he'll do it. I think we'll get utterly thumped by Man City whatever team we put out anyway.
The9 Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 There's a reasonable chance neither Cork nor Davis will be up to it if they keep missing games. The longer Team GB go in the tournament, the worse for us. Davis I simply can't see being match fit for the start of the season, he's not even in full training yet and hasn't played a game. cork I would imagine would be much more likely to be fit, but its just a case of him learning very quickly how to fit into the new system. I don't see Hammond getting much game time at all, perhaps just the odd 10 of 15 minutes here or there. I agree throwing JWP into a Man City cauldron is far from ideal, but if NA thinks he's up to it then I guess he'll do it. I think we'll get utterly thumped by Man City whatever team we put out anyway. Again, agree with all of that - and it's a fair point, but if we're going to lose anyway, why risk him and damage his confidence for Wigan, which will be an easier ride (though not "easy")?
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