Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Jillyanne said: Did they? They believe they did. Ignoring the fact that Manchester United had as many guys in the England squad that year as they did.
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 Colinjb said: It's not been. Modern citizens retelling the genesis of this nation is not distorting it, regardless of whether their relatives may have been here at the time, its the nation they now call home and they are celebrating it. It's PC b/llocks that is what it is.
JoeShmoe Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Danny Boyle is a ****in genius, I'm proud to be British
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 dune said: It's PC b/llocks that is what it is. So, to clarify. Are you saying that Black britains cannot publicly celebrate their nationality and the history involved?
harvey Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Colinjb said: No, the history still exists, it just hasn't been used to cause offence. Trivialising oppresion is a far bigger sin then discretion. No, it's been distorted so it's not technicaly 'true'.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 (edited) harvey said: No, it's been distorted so it's not technicaly 'true'. No it hasn't. Please, again, for the sake of clarity, explain why people of different ethnicity to the indigenous populace who have become naturalised residents and part of our society celebrating the nation's history has distorted it.... I wasn't aware that someone of Caribbean/African extraction from a (possibly...) third generation Afro-British family doing a dance interpretation of the Industrial revolution, a key event in his nation's history, has distorted it... Edited 27 July, 2012 by Colinjb
Saintandy666 Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 It has been absolutely fantastic. Brilliant. Better than the Beijing ceremony.
harvey Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 JoeShmoe said: Danny Boyle is a ****in genius, I'm proud to be British Your idea of genius is far removed from mine.....each to their own though eh!.
buctootim Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 (edited) Ive want a Belarussian suit like that Edited 27 July, 2012 by buctootim
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 Saintandy666 said: It has been absolutely fantastic. Brilliant. Better than the Beijing ceremony. Did you enjoy the ceebeebies olympic challenge?
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 Colinjb said: So, to clarify. Are you saying that Black britains cannot publicly celebrate their nationality and the history involved? Of course they can, but what i'm saying is that the representation of 19th century Britain was farcical.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 dune said: Of course they can, but what i'm saying is that the representation of 19th century Britain was farcical. Only if you let it bother you. It's hardly a farce that modern british performers, regardless of ethnicity, celebrate part of their nation's history. Should all the Greeks in 2004 have gone home because their bloodlines had been contaminated by the Turkish Ottoman invaders?
TopGun Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 dune said: Crap singing of abide with me. I wonder what Dune has offered ever to society?
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Colinjb said: So, to clarify. Are you saying that Black britains cannot publicly celebrate their nationality and the history involved? But they’re not "celebrating" it. They're actors/performers, paid to take part in a show, which is supposedly an historical representation of a particular period of British history, but is instead distorted to fit in with ridiculous PC pressure. It's not like the "multi-cultural" make-up of this country hasn't been well represented throughout the rest of the show.
Verbal Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Sour Mash said: But they’re not "celebrating" it. They're actors/performers, paid to take part in a show, which is supposedly an historical representation of a particular period of British history, but is instead distorted to fit in with ridiculous PC pressure. It's not like the "multi-cultural" make-up of this country hasn't been well represented throughout the rest of the show. Yes, it's just like reading a history book.
harvey Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Colinjb said: No it hasn't. Please, again, for the sake of clarity, explain why people of different ethnicity to the indigenous populace who have become naturalised residents and part of our society celebrating the nation's history has distorted it.... I wasn't aware that someone of Caribbean/African extraction from a (possibly...) third generation Afro-British family doing a dance interpretation of the Industrial revolution, a key event in his nation's history, has distorted it... Ooooo you snuck that one in quick ........did you realize that i was looking back at your posts to see where I was trying to pick you up on? It doesn't really matter because we're probaby miles apart on our personal view points....i do respect yours though Colinjb.
Matty's Caddy Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Well I enjoyed it, this bits gonna be boring though
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Sour Mash said: But they’re not "celebrating" it. They're actors/performers, paid to take part in a show, which is supposedly an historical representation of a particular period of British history, but is instead distorted to fit in with ridiculous PC pressure. It's not like the "multi-cultural" make-up of this country hasn't been well represented throughout the rest of the show. So again, should we have bared performers a chance to be employed based on race? It's not PC ****** if the performing companies have a diverse membership. And we have no method to prove otherwise, especially considering that locals will more then likely have been employed for this purpose.
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 TopGun said: I wonder what Dune has offered ever to society? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 Matty said: Well I enjoyed it' date=' this bits gonna be boring though[/quote'] And the cauldron lighting isn't for another 1hr 20
Jonnyboy Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 manji said: Utterly utterly toe curlingly cringeworthy. Like your opnions.
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 Verbal said: Correct. That was quite good for you.
buctootim Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Sour Mash said: is instead distorted to fit in with ridiculous PC pressure. It's not like the "multi-cultural" make-up of this country hasn't been well represented throughout the rest of the show. The perfomers are probably a representative ethnic makeup of young Londoners. If the games ever get held in the Scilly Isles no doubt the show will look different.
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Colinjb said: So again, should we have bared performers a chance to be employed based on race? It's not PC ****** if the performing companies have a diverse membership. And we have no method to prove otherwise, especially considering that locals will more then likely have been employed for this purpose. Because they look nothing like the people from the period of time they're supposedly re-creating. I believe it is the reason that acting is one of the few industries you can legally 'discriminate' on the basis of race for that very obvious, practical reason.
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 So let's have a show of hands of those who are loving it. So far we've got BTF, SaintAndy666, Colinjb and thedelldays. Anyone else?
CB Saint Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Bloody hell, look at the size of the Cuban flag bearer
Jillyanne Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 bridge too far said: FanF***ingTastic! Totally agree R
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Sour Mash said: Because they look nothing like the people from the period of time they're supposedly re-creating. I believe it is the reason that acting is one of the few industries you can legally 'discriminate' on the basis of race for that very obvious, practical reason. It would be seriously bloody pettit though. Where is the practical benefit in descriminating at an Olympic Opening ceremony? An event which will be abstract and celebratory of the nation as a whole rather then aiming for painstaking historic accuracy. Not to mention the whole ethos/spirit of the games in the first place.....
buctootim Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 dune said: So let's have a show of hands of those who are loving it. So far we've got BTF, SaintAndy666, Colinjb and thedelldays. Anyone else? It has been great overall. Some awful early moments but I got into it. It was a lot fresher and original and much less hackneyed retro than I feared
Jonnyboy Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Amazing how a global celebration of all humans around the world has got the racists riled up on this forum. As well as the sexists, homophobes and other types of bigot.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 The crowd, have they been briefed to ge certain colours at a specific time? Or are they wearing something reflective?
ottery st mary Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 I am luvving it too..... British is best..... It is soooooo luvverly.....I have tears in my eye:blush:
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 CB Saint said: Bloody hell, look at the size of the Cuban flag bearer Nobody is watching it now. It needs wogan doing the commentary to liven it up.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 dune said: Nobody is watching it now. It needs wogan doing the commentary to liven it up. He's retired. They've got Graham Norton on now.
bridge too far Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Colinjb said: The crowd, have they been briefed to ge certain colours at a specific time? Or are they wearing something reflective? Apparently they've all got handsets that are computer generated (so the commentators said). Something like 40 days to wire up the stadium.
buctootim Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Colinjb said: The crowd, have they been briefed to ge certain colours at a specific time? Or are they wearing something reflective? They got some sort of screen they're holding which are all atched to a central control system. Very clever and innovative.
Jillyanne Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 dune said: So let's have a show of hands of those who are loving it. So far we've got BTF, SaintAndy666, Colinjb and thedelldays. Anyone else? Me and the hubby
ottery st mary Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 I am looking forward to Lady Ga Ga lighting the Olympic flame:p
Jonnyboy Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 harvey said: Your idea of genius is far removed from mine.....each to their own though eh!. Won many oscars have you?
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 ottery st mary said: I am looking forward to Lady Ga Ga lighting the Olympic flame:p No John Terry. He likes turning up for these things.
CB Saint Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Colinjb said: The crowd, have they been briefed to ge certain colours at a specific time? Or are they wearing something reflective? The have this led gizmo which can be controlled wirelessly to change the colour. Actually very cool IMO.
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 Jillyanne said: Me and the hubby Are you sure you haven't just told him he's enjoying it?
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 dune said: Are you sure you haven't just told him he's enjoying it? Surely in a marriage that's the same thing.
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 bridge too far said: Apparently they've all got handsets that are computer generated (so the commentators said). Something like 40 days to wire up the stadium. A mass electrocution is on the cards then. I might just watch some more.
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Colinjb said: It would be seriously bloody pettit though. Where is the practical benefit in descriminating at an Olympic Opening ceremony? An event which will be abstract and celebratory of the nation as a whole rather then aiming for painstaking historic accuracy. Not to mention the whole ethos/spirit of the games in the first place..... Becuase it isn't discrimination. You wouldn't expect a white person to play Nelson Mandela in a story of his life would you?
Jonnyboy Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Sour Mash said: But they’re not "celebrating" it. They're actors/performers, paid to take part in a show, which is supposedly an historical representation of a particular period of British history, but is instead distorted to fit in with ridiculous PC pressure. It's not like the "multi-cultural" make-up of this country hasn't been well represented throughout the rest of the show. They'll be letting blacks compete in the games next! Tut.
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