LGTL Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 I'm not too sure that anyone outside the UK knows or even cares too much about Great Ormond Street Hospital So what? This is quite rightly about everything we should be proud of as a nation. I'm sure it's being explained to them.
Verbal Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Everyone's always bobbing. Why is everyone bobbing? What does it mean?
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 (edited) The Jubillee didn't do it, The European Championship didn't do it, The Torch relay didn't do it.. ....But right now I feel genuinely patriotic and proud. And for those that find it painful, there is an off switch. Exercise your right to choose. Edited 27 July, 2012 by Colinjb
doubleonothing Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Honestly why is Trevor Nelson involved in this commentary? The BBC's obbsession of trying to appeal to "the yoof" is really starting to p!ss me off.
Verbal Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 The Jubillee didn't do it, The European Championship didn't do it, The Torch relay didn't do it.. ....But right now I feel genuinely patriotic and proud. And for those that find it painful, there is an off switch. Remember, Colin, this post will still be here tomorrow.
badgerx16 Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 And for those that find it painful, there is an off switch. Just turn to BBC4.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Remember, Colin, this post will still be here tomorrow. This is not a problem.
harvey Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 So what? This is quite rightly about everything we should be proud of as a nation. I'm sure it's being explained to them. You might think that but i don't. It's being televised to a world wide global audience and don't really think that at occassion like the opening of the olympic games you should have to have it explained to you what GOSH are or who Isambard kingdom Brunel is, but that's my opinion.
manji Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 In a way it does reflect this country. False history, X-Factor look at me public participation, bad dancing, over-acting, pompous, fakery, over emphasis on multi-culturalism................
harvey Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 In a way it does reflect this country. False history, X-Factor look at me public participation, bad dancing, over-acting, pompous, fakery, over emphasis on multi-culturalism................ Sums it up for me I'm afraid, and I was really looking forward to tonight.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 In a way it does reflect this country. False history, X-Factor look at me public participation, bad dancing, over-acting, pompous, fakery, over emphasis on multi-culturalism................ How does the suffragette movement fall into that?
Verbal Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 who the **** are these people now? They are the people in Danny Boyle's head. It's like he vomited his memory.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Moan moan moan British love a good moan Absolutely, they are just fitting into the overall theme.
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 The Jubillee didn't do it, The European Championship didn't do it, The Torch relay didn't do it.. ....But right now I feel genuinely patriotic and proud. And for those that find it painful, there is an off switch. Exercise your right to choose. I'd rather watch and cringe.
harvey Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Lol just played Enola Gay, I'm sure the Japanese are pleased..........I expect they'll play 19 now just to cheer the Americans up.
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 In a way it does reflect this country. False history, X-Factor look at me public participation, bad dancing, over-acting, pompous, fakery, over emphasis on multi-culturalism................ A perfect summary.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 I'd rather watch and cringe. Well, it was never going to be anything other then self indulgent was it!?
angelman Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Moan moan moan British love a good moan I'm English not British. That should keep Giggs, Bellendy and Salmond happy.
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 Well, it was never going to be anything other then self indulgent was it!? The fake representation of multicultural 19th century Britain did it for me. PC b/llocks.
angelman Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Real classy to have Frankie "When I want to Cum". Real classy!
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 The fake representation of multicultural 19th century Britain did it for me. Could you imagine the outcry if non white performers were barred from that section? They are modern british citizens, they have every right to embrace this country's histroy and play a part in retelling it.
dellish Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 when they showed the chap singing sweet chariot there was 11 white 12 black last time i went to twickers must have been ****ed , just a thought as it was britain throu the ages
doubleonothing Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 That's just ruined it for me. ****ING DIZZY RASCAL
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 Could you imagine the outcry if non white performers were barred from that section? They are modern british citizens, they have every right to embrace this country's histroy and play a part in retelling it. F/ck the outcry. Can you imagine white people in an African tribal re-enaction? No thought not.
Verbal Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 F/ck the outcry. Can you imagine white people in an African tribal re-enaction? No thought not. Missing the BNP minstrel show dumbass?
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 F/ck the outcry. Can you imagine white people in an African tribal re-enaction? No thought not. Yes, but Kenya (for example) isn't a multicultural society in the same way ours is. Whilst there may be areas of the country that are still relatively unicultural and natively ethnic, most city areas such as the one this ceremony is being held are not. Therefore the comparison is invalid.
doubleonothing Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Nice touch to have Tim WWW inventor there. Without him we wouldn't be talking **** on here.
manji Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 F/ck the outcry. Can you imagine white people in an African tribal re-enaction? No thought not. lol
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 Yes, but Kenya (for example) isn't a multicultural society in the same way ours is. Whilst there may be areas of the country that are still relatively unicultural and natively ethnic, most city areas such as the one this ceremony is being held are not. Therefore the comparison is invalid. Well SA and Australia are. Would you expect to see black colonialists in their historical re-enaction and whites dressed as natives doing a war dance. Equally would expect to see whites dressed as Red indians at an American ceremony?
Verbal Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 American commentators thought Branagh was Abraham Lincoln. Easy mistake to make.
doubleonothing Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 He better have done an approved powerboat or FRC course to drive that craft
Saint Garrett Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Oh dear, West 'Am. Something for their fans to bang on about for another few years.....still banging on about the fact they won the world cup. budgies.
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Well SA and Australia are. Would you expect to see black colonialists in their historical re-enaction and whites dressed as natives doing a war dance. Equally would expect to see whites dressed as Red indians at an American ceremony? I'm playing into your hands here you little scamp. I would expect to see history told with a little sensitivity. Any areas where oppression has played a factor are shameful and should be treated as events to learn from, not celebrate. As such, no I wouldn't expect white dancers to play a part in a dance retelling say of the massacre of Zulu warriors... that would be something never to be retold in this manner. This is modern britain. We are a nation of many colours, religions and creeds. I am proud we live in a nation that any viewpoint, so long as it is not directly criminal can be expressed, regardless of how incorrect or flawed that view may be. .
buctootim Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Nice touch to have Tim WWW inventor there. Without him we wouldn't be talking **** on here. In that case burn the b*stard!
harvey Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Well SA and Australia are. Would you expect to see black colonialists in their historical re-enaction and whites dressed as natives doing a war dance. Equally would expect to see whites dressed as Red indians at an American ceremony? That is a very fair comment dune...............over to you Colinjb. see you just have
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Posted 27 July, 2012 I'm playing into your hands here you little scamp. I would expect to see history told with a little sensitivity. Any areas where oppression has played a factor are shameful and should be treated as events to learn from, not celebrate. As such, no I wouldn't expect white dancers to play a part in a dance retelling say of the massacre of Zulu warriors... that would be something never to be retold in this manner. So why is OK to distort the history of this country?
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 So why is OK to distort the history of this country? It's not been. Modern citizens retelling the genesis of this nation is not distorting it, regardless of whether their relatives may have been here at the time, its the nation they now call home and they are celebrating it.
harvey Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 I'm playing into your hands here you little scamp. I would expect to see history told with a little sensitivity. Any areas where oppression has played a factor are shameful and should be treated as events to learn from, not celebrate. As such, no I wouldn't expect white dancers to play a part in a dance retelling say of the massacre of Zulu warriors... that would be something never to be retold in this manner. This is modern britain. We are a nation of many colours, religions and creeds. I am proud we live in a nation that any viewpoint, so long as it is not directly criminal can be expressed, regardless of how incorrect or flawed that view may be. . Actually isn't that a 'distortian' of history which wouldn't then make it 'history'?
Jillyanne Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Something for their fans to bang on about for another few years.....still banging on about the fact they won the world cup. budgies. Did they?
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 (edited) Actually isn't that a 'distortian' of history which wouldn't then make it 'history'? No, the history still exists, it just hasn't been used to cause offence. Trivialising oppresion is a far bigger sin then discretion. History is there to be learnt from, not to be flaunted foolishly. All countries have events they regret. I notice China didn't mention much of their domestic policies in the Beijing opening ceremony. Edited 27 July, 2012 by Colinjb
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