London Saint Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 Scum Army sounds awful Saint Army isnt much better Just give me good old 'RED Army' any day, shouted over and over until your throat is hoarse and you can barely speak
pap Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 Saint Army would be better, but for me, it's whatever is adopted by the fans.... I would rather be Scum Army instead of Saint Army. They gave us that name to p!ss us off. As a group of fans, how p!ssed off do we appear when we say "yep, good name. we'll have that"?
Saint J 77 Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 Scum Army sounds awful Saint Army isnt much better Just give me good old 'RED Army' any day, shouted over and over until your throat is hoarse and you can barely speak Yeah I agreed with this. Red Army this season and hopefully back to Red and White Army next season
red robbo Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 scum army will do me,nice to have a beer or two with the lads in evian, im not spotty or youth!! just an old warrens lad!
doddisalegend Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 What would be acceptable? Jester hat Army? Gaint foam hand Army? Face painted warriors? 25 minutes into the match time to get a pie and pint Brigade?
aintforever Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 "Scum" is just a generic derogatory term used by loads of different teams. I don't get why we would call ourselves it.
Greenridge Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 bulbs in clown suits and road cone hats? You're repeating yourself. If this is true it's truely cringeworthy right up there with 40 year olds dressed as clowns.
Saint_clark Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 Please, don't tell me we're now calling ourselves "Scum Army" or is it just our hard as nails yoof....? For christs sake, it is neither. It is just one flag that someone made up probably to wind up the skates. Why make a big deal of it, and most of all why now? Middle of pre-season seems a very odd time to suddenly notice this.
sfc4prem Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 There was a banner with 'Scum army' on at Swindon and one at Hull too. Same as Tottenham calling themselves Yid Army really. Not really, considering Yid is a racist term.
Gemmel Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 Not really, considering Yid is a racist term. Except that's what they call themselves
doddisalegend Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 Why do we have to be any sort of army ffs yeah how about "Red peace corp" or "large red crowd"
TheMidfieldGeneral Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 Both games (Swindon & Hull) were in the early stages of last season.. Why are you getting your knickers in a twist now? Has it been on your mind for that long? Surely with Saints popularity growing the longer the season went on, there must have been some worse targets for you to start a meaningless thread about?? Why not start one about the Milton Agro years with Timmy the Mallet?!?!?
svetigpung Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 Its commonly known that The Scum are ManUre. Now lets not confuse things. We are the Pinstripes Army or simply The PA's. Done.
spyinthesky Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 The worst thing that this Premiership mallarky has brought is a few London-based Saints fans taking the p! ss out of my Hampshire accent, when I was up in town last weekend. Asked me where my tractor was. Jesus H. Christ, do I miss the days when our "army" was mainly dockers in their late twenties, with arms built up by unloading tonnes of bananas off the Cape boats. We didn't need banners to warn away fans to expect a quick chase back to the Central Station. Spurs, Millwall, West Ham, Man U?? They all ran, from blokes like Maurice the Mallett, Dougal, Jimmer Marshall, Bootsie, Killer Callaway, et al... I'm getting misty eyed just remembering it.... GM Apologies for being pedantic but bananas were never unloaded off the Cape Boats Also I am pretty sure that Maurice and Dougal were not Dockers and dont recollect that Jimmer, Bootsie or Killer were either In my hazy recollection the Saints 'Firm' was very small in comparison in those days and you had to be brave to be part of it as the numbers were very often stacked against Saints on the terraces
Guided Missile Posted 25 July, 2012 Author Posted 25 July, 2012 (edited) GM Apologies for being pedantic but bananas were never unloaded off the Cape Boats Also I am pretty sure that Maurice and Dougal were not Dockers and dont recollect that Jimmer, Bootsie or Killer were either In my hazy recollection the Saints 'Firm' was very small in comparison in those days and you had to be brave to be part of it as the numbers were very often stacked against Saints on the terraces Maurice was a chippie, as I posted. I am not sure what the rest of the names did for a living but there were shed loads of dockers inside the Dell. People like Talbie Bligh and his brother Tony were a couple of lads I knew well. The Saints Firm consisted of pretty much all the local gangs throughout the Southampton area, who fought each other through the week and for some reason, joined up together on match day. Jimmer was a popular Woolston lad and after he was stabbed in Ipswich, we took 8 coach loads up there, so not a small firm at all. I was in a crowd of about 2,000 who chased the Spurs fans back to the central station after a match, with police motorbikes being driven at us trying to keep us apart. The Spurs fans were led by a Jamaican lad called Sammy, who was fairly well known at the time. He got killed in a fight near the Lane, not long after this incident. Pushed in front of a train apparently. As far as the bananas, I am sure you are right. I just assumed they came in from there. Sh! t, I'm sounding like my Dad used to. Many apologies to the younger lads on here. Pathetic I know and for any squaddies, ex- or otherwise, I know you're harder than anyone else, but let's face it, we weren't getting paid for fighting.... Edited 25 July, 2012 by Guided Missile
Turkish Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 Maurice was a chippie, as I posted. I am not sure what the rest of the names did for a living but there were shed loads of dockers inside the Dell. People like Talbie Bligh and his brother Tony were a couple of lads I knew well. The Saints Firm consisted of pretty much all the local gangs throughout the Southampton area, who fought each other through the week and for some reason, joined up together on match day. Jimmer was a popular Woolston lad and after he was stabbed in Ipswich, we took 8 coach loads up there, so not a small firm at all. I was in a crowd of about 2,000 who chased the Spurs fans back to the central station after a match, with police motorbikes being driven at us trying to keep us apart. The Spurs fans were led by a Jamaican lad called Sammy, who was fairly well known at the time. He got killed in a fight near the Lane, not long after this incident. Pushed in front of a train apparently. As far as the bananas, I am sure you are right. I just assumed they came in from there. Sh! t, I'm sounding like my Dad used to. Many apologies to the younger lads on here. Pathetic I know and for any squaddies, ex- or otherwise, I know you're harder than anyone else, but let's face it, we weren't getting paid for fighting.... There is some good footage on YouTube somewhere of saints on th pitch at Bristol Rovers, it's all mentioned in their book. Also some stuff of the 84 semi final.
M271 Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 There is some good footage on YouTube somewhere of saints on th pitch at Bristol Rovers, it's all mentioned in their book. Also some stuff of the 84 semi final. Do you mean the FA Cup match at Bristol Rovers in 1978 ? If so I was there as a kid, I was told that the pitch invasion was started by Bristol City fans wanting to cause trouble ?? I think I remember a fan sitting on the penalty spot, but my memory may be playing tricks. I was most disappointed as I had to leave because my parents left the match at that point disgusted at the 'fans' behaviour.
The Majestic Channon Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 Do you mean the FA Cup match at Bristol Rovers in 1978 ? If so I was there as a kid, I was told that the pitch invasion was started by Bristol City fans wanting to cause trouble ?? I think I remember a fan sitting on the penalty spot, but my memory may be playing tricks. I was most disappointed as I had to leave because my parents left the match at that point disgusted at the 'fans' behaviour. Thats the one http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?36338-Any-old-farts-recognize-themselves&highlight=bristol+rovers
spyinthesky Posted 25 July, 2012 Posted 25 July, 2012 Maurice was a chippie, as I posted. I am not sure what the rest of the names did for a living but there were shed loads of dockers inside the Dell. People like Talbie Bligh and his brother Tony were a couple of lads I knew well. The Saints Firm consisted of pretty much all the local gangs throughout the Southampton area, who fought each other through the week and for some reason, joined up together on match day. Jimmer was a popular Woolston lad and after he was stabbed in Ipswich, we took 8 coach loads up there, so not a small firm at all. I was in a crowd of about 2,000 who chased the Spurs fans back to the central station after a match, with police motorbikes being driven at us trying to keep us apart. The Spurs fans were led by a Jamaican lad called Sammy, who was fairly well known at the time. He got killed in a fight near the Lane, not long after this incident. Pushed in front of a train apparently. As far as the bananas, I am sure you are right. I just assumed they came in from there. Sh! t, I'm sounding like my Dad used to. Many apologies to the younger lads on here. Pathetic I know and for any squaddies, ex- or otherwise, I know you're harder than anyone else, but let's face it, we weren't getting paid for fighting.... GM Talby was definately a Dockie Actually the Permanent Dockies (Perms) of which there were 3-4,000 in the 60's and 70's (average age 50 ish) would have been supplemented by younger (family related) casuals who were taken on in the summer when the Union Castle fruit boats used to come in There were also quite a few 'likely lads' who used to work for Harland & Wolfe (latterly Vospers) who used to follow saints regularly Add in the thousands who worked for Fords and BR at Eastleigh plus Pirelli's etc and there were lots of semi skilled/manual workers around who fancied the occasional dust up Unemployment wasnt a problem in those days and most youngsters had plenty of money and time on their hands
dune Posted 26 July, 2012 Posted 26 July, 2012 The reason this thread was started is because a saints fan referred to themselves as scum on POL. Well I agree with a lot of what he wrote and disagree with some of it, but it all made me laugh. Good work by GM - this forum needs more interesting posters like him rather than the usual tedius drivel.
lil 1 Posted 26 July, 2012 Posted 26 July, 2012 Containerisation didn't help. Southampton then turned into a city of insurance salesmen and shop workers. I have an old 8mm film I filmed of an away day to Ipswich in the early 70's. The town was totally wrecked, cars turned over and all because one of our lads (Jimmer, I believe) got stabbed by the pikey c* nts. The film makes "Green Street" look like a trip to Legoland. You are right, Southampton fans were mature, hard and didn't take any sh !t from the London clubs or from those up North. Now it's all banners and bull sh!t. Maurice the Mallet was a chippie who used to wear his bib and braces to the Dell, after work. He got his name from his habit of taking a mallet along with him. Dougall used to grab an opposing fan and Maurice would lay him out with his mallet. Sh !t i miss those times. It was like being in the army.... would love to see that film
hypochondriac Posted 26 July, 2012 Posted 26 July, 2012 Well I agree with a lot of what he wrote and disagree with some of it, but it all made me laugh. Good work by GM - this forum needs more interesting posters like him rather than the usual tedius drivel. Why would any saints fan say play up pompey? Madness.
Guided Missile Posted 26 July, 2012 Author Posted 26 July, 2012 Why would any saints fan say play up pompey? Madness. In a game involving Pompey against any other team than Saints, I would want Pompey to win. Why? Because they happen to be located about 15 miles from me, in Hampshire and I have a number of good friends who support them or used to play for them. Explain why hatred for Pompey is a pre-requisite for a Saints fan. In fact, explain why hatred for another set of fans is a pre-requisite for being a Saints fan. Friendly rivalry is as far as it should go and I have yet to hear any reason why that should not be so...
hypochondriac Posted 26 July, 2012 Posted 26 July, 2012 In a game involving Pompey against any other team than Saints, I would want Pompey to win. Why? Because they happen to be located about 15 miles from me, in Hampshire and I have a number of good friends who support them or used to play for them. Explain why hatred for Pompey is a pre-requisite for a Saints fan. In fact, explain why hatred for another set of fans is a pre-requisite for being a Saints fan. Friendly rivalry is as far as it should go and I have yet to hear any reason why that should not be so... Portsmouth as a club have cheated charities, children and local businesses on numerous occasions. They don't deserve any success and I hope they lose every game next year. The amount of bile and hatred I have seen from them over the years towards saints fans means that I would never wish them success and most saints fans I know feel the same. My father had bricks thrown at him by Portsmouth fans FFS they are animals and they have a far higher percentage of these troglodytes than the average club. I shouldn't have to explain what a rivalry is to a football fan, though I appreciate you are part of an older generation who do not understand such things.
Guided Missile Posted 26 July, 2012 Author Posted 26 July, 2012 Portsmouth as a club have cheated charities, children and local businesses on numerous occasions. They don't deserve any success and I hope they lose every game next year. The amount of bile and hatred I have seen from them over the years towards saints fans means that I would never wish them success and most saints fans I know feel the same. My father had bricks thrown at him by Portsmouth fans FFS they are animals and they have a far higher percentage of these troglodytes than the average club. I shouldn't have to explain what a rivalry is to a football fan, though I appreciate you are part of an older generation who do not understand such things. Nothing like a sweeping generalisation and preconceptions presented as facts to completely devalue your points. I was at the Fratton Park riot with my son and got pelted with stones, so I think I understand what football rivalry means to some people. I just happen to think that a few overblown headlines and handbags at ten paces doesn't define an entire City as animals. You really need to think for yourself, rather than getting swept up in the mass hysteria generated by pussies that think anything shouted at you at a football game is of any consequence...
aintforever Posted 26 July, 2012 Posted 26 July, 2012 Saints fans who don't hate pompey are just dull and souless people. The schadenfreude is half the fun, it's only pantomime hatred get a life and join in.
Gambol2K9 Posted 26 July, 2012 Posted 26 July, 2012 All of our lot are a bunch of fence rattlers anyway. Funny how hard ppl become when they are protected by a line of police and segregation. Millwall at home was a prime example. Just embarrassing.
Sour Mash Posted 26 July, 2012 Posted 26 July, 2012 Nothing like a sweeping generalisation and preconceptions presented as facts to completely devalue your points. I was at the Fratton Park riot with my son and got pelted with stones, so I think I understand what football rivalry means to some people. I just happen to think that a few overblown headlines and handbags at ten paces doesn't define an entire City as animals. You really need to think for yourself, rather than getting swept up in the mass hysteria generated by pussies that think anything shouted at you at a football game is of any consequence... Walk through Portsmouth with a Saints shirt on and let us know how you get on.
Greenridge Posted 26 July, 2012 Posted 26 July, 2012 (edited) Good work by GM - this forum needs more interesting posters like him rather than the usual tedius drivel. How very true. Otherwise you'd have the same few posters talking about clowns all the time. Edited 26 July, 2012 by Greenridge
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 26 July, 2012 Posted 26 July, 2012 Saint Army would be better, but for me, it's whatever is adopted by the fans.... No offence GM but Saint Army has a sort of charitable feel about it - a bit god squad.
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 26 July, 2012 Posted 26 July, 2012 In a game involving Pompey against any other team than Saints, I would want Pompey to win. Why? Because they happen to be located about 15 miles from me, in Hampshire and I have a number of good friends who support them or used to play for them. Explain why hatred for Pompey is a pre-requisite for a Saints fan. In fact, explain why hatred for another set of fans is a pre-requisite for being a Saints fan. Friendly rivalry is as far as it should go and I have yet to hear any reason why that should not be so... For me it is a bit like Scotland playing rugby; you want to support them but they hate us so much that you simply cannot even if some of your mates follow them.
Griffo Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Can't believe some of the replies on this with people saying they don't hate them. I hate everything about them. I even hate the colour blue.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Walk through Portsmouth with a Saints shirt on and let us know how you get on. I once did by mistake (well around the Uni area anyway). Was having a kick around in the morning and a mate asked me to drive him to the Uni as a favour, would sort me out some petrol and a couple of beers in the evening. It was a sunny day and we had nothing to do so jumped in the car. I didn't think anything of it as I use to work for a company in Fratton and knew the area fairly well and did that journey most days. I completely forgot what I was wearing, until some toothless chav shouted "feckin scumma", then thought oh sh!t. Felt a bit of a tool as it looked like something someone would do to make a statement or start trouble, which is wasn't at all, just a fairly stupid oversight. My mate didn't really give a sh!t about football other above the level of headers and volleys so didn't really get it when I was telling him to hurry up.
DJ_TOAST Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 In a game involving Pompey against any other team than Saints, I would want Pompey to win. Why? Because they happen to be located about 15 miles from me, in Hampshire and I have a number of good friends who support them or used to play for them. Explain why hatred for Pompey is a pre-requisite for a Saints fan. In fact, explain why hatred for another set of fans is a pre-requisite for being a Saints fan. Friendly rivalry is as far as it should go and I have yet to hear any reason why that should not be so... Skate.
This Charming Man Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 All of our lot are a bunch of fence rattlers anyway. Funny how hard ppl become when they are protected by a line of police and segregation. Millwall at home was a prime example. Just embarrassing. You must've missed what happened in the park later on that day then...
Johnny Bognor Posted 27 July, 2012 Posted 27 July, 2012 Names are all important. As a scummer, carrying out operations behind enemy lines (in a gorilla warfare kind of way) we went with the Chichester Undercover Neurotic Terrorists. We are clearly notorious nationwide as people up and down the land continuously use our abbreviated name. Calling me a ****? That's not an insult, it's a badge of honour!
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