Assads chemical weapons

[Viking Warrior]

Now that Assad has admitted he has chemical weapons . Is it possible that they came from sadam hussian? It's possible seeing as iraq borders Syria

[Saintandy666]

I dunno. I doubt it, Syria could just build its own. Also, by looking at some information, it appears Iraq and Syria didn't get on very well in the 90's and didn't even have diplomatic ties for a while, only renewing them in 2006.

[Thedelldays]

Of course it is possible.

 

Would be interesting if he uses them and the opinion still remains in this country is to stay out of it... Whilst hundreds if not thousands of innocent people die

[dubai_phil]

Possible but unlikely.

 

Syria has always been a system "modelled" on a form of collective "communism" - ie where being in the "party" is all important. The weapons will be old Soviet era technology and will be far more likely to have come from IRAN not Iraq.

 

It is not good up there at the moment, very worried for a lot of friends, not just because of Bashar but also for what comes next.

[ecuk268]

It's not the weapons you have that's important, it's the weapons that your enemies think you have that counts.

 

He could be bluffing to discourage outside intervention.

[alpine_saint]

No.

 

Sarin has a limited shelf-life. Saddams stocks would be useless by now.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Watching a series of different 'tin pot' dictators all make exactly the same mistake is a illustrative experience. The longer they hold on to power the harder (and more bloody) their eventual fall will become. But power is all they know and even the dimmest of them can see that to yield even a inch to the forces of democracy will result in their eventual political demise anyway. A classic Catch 22 situation.

 

The fall of the vile Assad regime is surely just a matter of time now, alas the Syrian people will pay a heavy price indeed for their freedom. History shows that liberty always comes at a price I'm afraid. That blood price could be much reduced however were it not for the sheer idiocy of Russia and China blocking outside assistance in the UN Security Council, and allowing themselves to be caught so obviously on the wrong side of history in the process.

 

Assad's near inevitable fall will become just another footnote in history. But the fact that the leaders of really powerful nations so manifestly fail to comprehend the world should be a cause for concern to us all.

[dubai_phil]

Watching a series of different 'tin pot' dictators all make exactly the same mistake is a illustrative experience. The longer they hold on to power the harder (and more bloody) their eventual fall will become. But power is all they know and even the dimmest of them can see that to yield even a inch to the forces of democracy will result in their eventual political demise anyway. A classic Catch 22 situation.

The fall of the vile Assad regime is surely just a matter of time now, alas the Syrian people will pay a heavy price indeed for their freedom. History shows that liberty always comes at a price I'm afraid. That blood price could be much reduced however were it not for the sheer idiocy of Russia and China blocking outside assistance in the UN Security Council, and allowing themselves to be caught so obviously on the wrong side of history in the process.

 

Assad's near inevitable fall will become just another footnote in history. But the fact that the leaders of really powerful nations so manifestly fail to comprehend the world should be a cause for concern to us all.

 

Just a point to note while "The Syrian People" want Bashar gone, they are actually FAR more worried about what comes next.

 

Syria was a truly Secular Country (hell you could even find the best Topless Bar in the Middle East over there). What it has never been is an Islamic State. Think of the balance within Turkey where both sides co-exist and understand each other.

 

What the Syrians are worried about is that the rebels are primarily Islamic backed - a Jihad if you like and that the country will "slide" slowly into a more Islamic Nation - and to be honest those concerns have been played out so far in Libya & Egypt.

 

The picture is never QUITE as clear as the stories you hear see and read.

 

The FACT of the insanity of Bashar (and his father some 40+ odd years ago) is very real.

 

I for one hope they get the new Syria to be what it was but without "The State" sitting over them. It was without a doubt one of the most interesting countries (from a Strewth you have all this history here) I have visited.

 

And boy some of those Syrian Chicks were cute

 

What I fear is a series of Islamic Factions and local "War Lords" based on tribal links putting together a patch-work "oh yeah look it's democratic now" and end up being as biased against parts of the Population as Bashar was against those that did not toe the party line

Edited 24 July, 2012 by dubai_phil

[alpine_saint]

And boy some of those Syrian Chicks were cute

 

 

Indeed, Assad's missus, whilst being the unsympathetic first lady of a murderous chinless twonk, is a bit of a shaag-piece.

 

Wonder what they will all look like with Burqas on when Assad falls ???

Edited 24 July, 2012 by alpine_saint

[Viking Warrior]

sadam had a range of chemical weapons

 

Alps Sarin would not be useless now as Sadam used it on Halabja. and that was world war2 stock

mind you he used a range of chemicals mustard gas and and other nerve agent chemicals, including a blood agent mixture.

which turned parts of the body black

 

with regards to Chemical Agents I can honestly say I am ITK as to what these can do havin g been an instructor at DNBCC winterborne Gunner and ws part of a team that trained our medics who were deployed on OP Granby

[scotty]

I wonder whether Assad snapped up saddams wmd's at the same time? If so, we should invade.