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david in sweden

david in sweden

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But with Fonte and Yoshida playing well and developing a decent partnership now...which one would make way for Dann?

I guess Jos is our only cover for those two so far, therefore it makes sense to sign this guy and have 4 CBs to choose from in case of injury etc..[/QUOTE]

 

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London Saint

London Saint

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Don't think Yoshida is playing well, can't pass and looks sketchy quite a lot. Think it will be Fonte - New CB from Janurary onwards.

 

Thought he had a good game on saturday and looked pretty solid, mind you it was Reading and they were fcking awful

Eric The Red

Eric The Red

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Looks to me like this story is coming from the Blackburn end. I think they're trying to generate some interest as they probably need to offload some expensive players.

I certainly wouldn't have him over Yoshida who I think is settling in well

Turkish

Turkish

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I think Yoshida's been decent for us. Don't forget he's come from the Dutch league which is much less physical than the Prem and is up against players of superior quality.

 

What has that got to do with anything?

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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What has that got to do with anything?

 

That he is still adapting. Was reading an interview with Oguchi Onyewu who played for AC Milan, currently at Malaga and he joined newcastle in a Jan window a fe years ago. He said it was very hard to adapt to the Prem - the pace, intensity and that it is totally different to any other league (he has also played in Germany, Portugal and the US so knows about lots of them).

 

He said he wished he hadn't been put straight into the team, and that he had been able to use a pre season to get acustomed.

UpweySaint

UpweySaint

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Had this conversation with others and seems to be an agreement Dann would do a job but at the right price. For me he knows the league and could well come in and do a job but value for money seems to be found abroad. I'd draw the line at six million personally but sure others would disagree on his value and ability. I'd just like to point out that january is difficult and is not the ideal time to be bringing in players who need time to settle. Better options?

Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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not keen on Dann, although he doesnt fit the mould of buying young upcoming players I think Matty Upson from Stoke would be a good signing

 

Upson is also dreadful. I'd rather have Fonte, Yoshi, and Jos over Upson or Dann. If we're going to bring in a CB, they have to be dead certs to start.

ottery st mary

ottery st mary

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Has anyone seen Upson play in the last 2 years?..........Crepe:rolleyes:

 

Dann is not the answer either..:p

 

Fonte , Yoshida and Jos is OK.... with two youngsters in Stephens and Turnbull coming through..:)

 

I would rather have a top class utility player who can play Defensive mid_field/CENTRE BACK.

 

Not sure who the answer is yet...but sure NA has got the task in hand.:D

UpweySaint

UpweySaint

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Ok ok, Dann is not going to be a world beater but could he do a job for a season and a half or more while we see the likes of Stephens progress? If we all agree we need a bit more back up for the season I think he does that, if the price is right. Does anybody have any other realistic options?

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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Has anyone seen Upson play in the last 2 years?..........Crepe:rolleyes:

 

Dann is not the answer either..:p

 

Fonte , Yoshida and Jos is OK.... with two youngsters in Stephens and Turnbull coming through..:)

 

I would rather have a top class utility player who can play Defensive mid_field/CENTRE BACK.

 

Not sure who the answer is yet...but sure NA has got the task in hand.:D

 

Agree with the first two points but not the rest.

 

Jos is not ok.

 

It is not ok to have 2 CBs plus one not of Prem quality then two rookies.

 

If Fonte say was injured for 3months then either Jos or Yos got a red card we would lose all 3 games they missed for sure.

 

We absolutely need at least 1 CB in the window.

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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I think Upson could do a job, its an area we def need cover in.

Also is Fox suitable cover for Shaw at left back?, Luke is a good prospect but having Fox as back up fills me with dread!

 

IMO Fox is an adequate back up LB for a team near the bottom of the league. I would say I would feel more confident seeing Fox in the side than if I saw Hooiveld.

 

Obviously Shaw is miles better.

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Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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I still stand by the fact that if we are going to bring in anyone, they've got to be better than what we have. Whats the point in bringing in a player just to sit on the bench as back up. If we want to improve as a team, the way transfers work if you bring in a player better than what you have, and then that player bucks his ideas up or is our first backup.

UpweySaint

UpweySaint

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I still stand by the fact that if we are going to bring in anyone, they've got to be better than what we have. Whats the point in bringing in a player just to sit on the bench as back up. If we want to improve as a team, the way transfers work if you bring in a player better than what you have, and then that player bucks his ideas up or is our first backup.

 

I'd suggest Dann is an improvement on Jos so improves to squad and has shown, in the past, the kind of ability to suggest he could genuinely challenge Fonte and Yoshida. Genuine premiership class players who would want to join us, could settle in well, not cost ridiculous fees/wages and are proven at this level are few and far between ...

tajjuk

tajjuk

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I still stand by the fact that if we are going to bring in anyone, they've got to be better than what we have. Whats the point in bringing in a player just to sit on the bench as back up. If we want to improve as a team, the way transfers work if you bring in a player better than what you have, and then that player bucks his ideas up or is our first backup.

 

 

Agree with this, in the situation we are in you want to try and get the best first team you can, we are most likely going to out of the FA cup at first attempt so wll just have league games to worry about so it's not numbers we need it's quality. We have enough squad at the moment so we need players to challenge the first team spots.

The Cat

The Cat

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I know a Blackburn season ticket holder and asked him about Dann. He said he's too slow even for most Championship teams and he'd be happy to be shot of him.

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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I would spunk my wad on Ryan Shawcross

 

Good player, not quite sure of Stoke have offered him a new contract yet - but there is talk that they're trying to tie him down long-term.

 

If he does move it's going to be to one of the established big boys anyway.

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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Nixon back in the mix, saying we watched Dann on Fri and another player being watched tomorrow night. Priorities are CB and def mid, expects decent spend but not huge like the summer.

 

Just reporting what he said...

mikee

mikee

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Agree with the first two points but not the rest.

 

Jos is not ok.

 

It is not ok to have 2 CBs plus one not of Prem quality then two rookies.

 

 

If Fonte say was injured for 3months then either Jos or Yos got a red card we would lose all 3 games they missed for sure.

 

We absolutely need at least 1 CB in the window.

 

We know from last season that Jos is better than Fonte - it is a shame that he didn't get the chance to adapt to the PL that Jose and Yoshida have.

 

People are far too quick to write players off after a couple of bad performances.

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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We know from last season that Jos is better than Fonte - it is a shame that he didn't get the chance to adapt to the PL that Jose and Yoshida have.

 

People are far too quick to write players off after a couple of bad performances.

 

Jos isn't better than Fonte. He scored more goals but Fonte is the better alround defender, and certainly more suited to Prem football - quicker, better on the ball, more composed defender etc.

SFC Chris

SFC Chris

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I would rather have a top class utility player who can play Defensive mid_field/CENTRE BACK.

 

Not sure who the answer is yet...but sure NA has got the task in hand.:D

 

Celtic have found Wanyama and Ambrose by looking at African nations for players... No reason we can't do the same.

 

I'd rather take a chance on someone like that - much in the way Celtic have done - than sign a guy who isn't any better than what we have already.

Baldbarbarian

Baldbarbarian

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Obviously Shaw is miles better.

 

totally agree

 

I would prefer hangeland out of contract at fulham next season.

 

would love this he is a beast of a defender, but doesnt really help us in January

tajjuk

tajjuk

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totally agree

 

 

 

would love this he is a beast of a defender, but doesnt really help us in January

 

Well throw some money at them and they might sell to cash in, but I would imagine Hangeland is looking at a top 6 club, hence why he hasn't signed a new contract.

Saint 76er

Saint 76er

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Surely we wouldn't waste 6 million (or probably anything) on Dann, that would be madness.

 

If a British player capable of helping us through this season, then maybe Curtis Davies.

 

If a foreign player, then Kana-Biyek is a beast if they can get him, but would cost.

 

Or push the boat out for Hangeland. Fulham won't want to sell but he leaves for free in the summer. If we want to share in the PL riches from next season then this is the move they should make happen.

studentsaint

studentsaint

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Scott dann is not a player that demands immediate first team action. Therefore 6m for a back up defender would be worse than j rods fee. We need to strengthen at the back, but strengthening is upgrading what we've got, not adding another average one and losing 6m in the process.

Badger

Badger

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Nixon back in the mix, saying we watched Dann on Fri and another player being watched tomorrow night. Priorities are CB and def mid, expects decent spend but not huge like the summer.

 

Just reporting what he said...

 

Any fixture that we're aware of ?

Avenue Saint

Avenue Saint

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If dann is comparable to the new found form Fonte is displaying, i'ld say go for it.

 

With jos who hasn't really settled and been unfortunate, but as 4th centre back with ability to perform like he did last season, and dann competing with Yoshi... That is a step in the stronger direction.

itchen_dan

itchen_dan

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Excellent! Must be January soon. I love it :)

 

Transfer windows are so much better when you have half an idea of what is going on and who we're looking at! Gets bloody boring when you haven't got a clue what's happening 'behind the scenes'!

Colinjb

Colinjb

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Transfer windows are so much better when you have half an idea of what is going on and who we're looking at! Gets bloody boring when you haven't got a clue what's happening 'behind the scenes'!

 

Can lead to a few good surprises though.

 

Was most disappointing 8 years ago when we thought that Dawson and Reid were in the bag....... only for Spurs to gazump us. Sometimes it can be better to keep things in the dark.

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