Lighthouse Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Because we haven't the time for that, and what's £1m to a PL club? 1. We can sign Clyne now, the tribunal fee is agreed at a later date and isn't negotiated between the clubs. We got our fee for Gobern several months after he went to Udders. 2. With your Cavalier attitutude towards finances, perhaps you should try and buy Pompey. Because Clyne is better than the likes of Gobern and Dickson. Tribunal fees aren't based on value, they're based on the cost the parent club put into developing the player. Doesn't matter if it's Gobern, Dickson or whoever the fee is pretty much the same, just over half a million normally. That's what we got for Gobern, Dickson and Best and it's likely what Palace would get if we took them to a tribunal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Tribunal fees aren't based on value, they're based on the cost the parent club put into developing the player. Doesn't matter if it's Gobern, Dickson or whoever the fee is pretty much the same, just over half a million normally. That's what we got for Gobern, Dickson and Best and it's likely what Palace would get if we took them to a tribunal. Sorting the deal out with the club rather than letting it go to tribunal means you can have more of a say in future clauses. Paying more for him now, may mean paying less back to Palace in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Sorting the deal out with the club rather than letting it go to tribunal means you can have more of a say in future clauses. Paying more for him now, may mean paying less back to Palace in the future. If we're forking out an extar £1m to avoid paying maybe a 20% sell on clause in the future, we must be confident of selling him for well over £5m in a few years. I hope you're right and that the kid is THAT good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 He is excellent and will only get better. Can't believe people haven't really seen him. He's been playing consistently well for Palace for a few seasons, how has this gone unnoticed?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 I think this guy will be an absolutely outstanding addition, for such a snip too. I love what we're doing in terms of young, talented British/european players. It's refreshing and will serve us so well for years to come. He's quick, skillful and full of energy, he fits the style we like to play superbly. Him and Richardson as our 2 right backs is pretty impressive for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 (edited) I think this guy will be an absolutely outstanding addition, for such a snip too. I love what we're doing in terms of young, talented British/european players. It's refreshing and will serve us so well for years to come. He's quick, skillful and full of energy, he fits the style we like to play superbly. Him and Richardson as our 2 right backs is pretty impressive for next year. Spot on. Only have to look at the clubs he's been linked with to see how highly he's rated. More importantly, he also fits our criteria for having a slot in the Championship team of the year Edited 13 July, 2012 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughnutman Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 That's bullsh*t. Why would we pay £1.5m when he can leave on a free and they'd get about £0.5m in a tribunal? Perhaps because we want to maintain good relations with Palace if we're likely to go back for Zaha. It's unlikely they'll be willing to negotiate on a transfer for Zaha if they get screwed over by a tribunal for Clyne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Perhaps because we want to maintain good relations with Palace if we're likely to go back for Zaha. It's unlikely they'll be willing to negotiate on a transfer for Zaha if they get screwed over by a tribunal for Clyne. That is a very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Spot on. Only have to look at the clubs he's been linked with to see how highly he's rated. More importantly, he also fits our criteria for having a slot in the Championship team of the year Oh yeh - we'll have the championship select soon enough! Our signings seem to be based on a long-period of scouting, as we've been linked to Clyne for 18 month's/2 years now. Same was the case with Jay Rodriguez, and Tadannari Lee - I expect we've looked at Butner for a long time too. It's just refreshing to see us buying genuinely good players who are better than what we have after a long period of checking them out, not players that just add to the squad and are signed on the back of little work. Man Utd wanted Clyne not so long ago, that was a very valid interest too, so we've pulled off a good one here if it all goes through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Tribunal fees aren't based on value, they're based on the cost the parent club put into developing the player. Doesn't matter if it's Gobern, Dickson or whoever the fee is pretty much the same, just over half a million normally. That's what we got for Gobern, Dickson and Best and it's likely what Palace would get if we took them to a tribunal. That's not right. They're also based on existing experience and expected future values - one of the SSN talking heads (not an ex-pro) yesterday said ex-Blackburn Junior Hoilett would be expected to reach £4m in tribunal, so there's clearly a factor for appearances and experience as well as position and the level they're at. Gobern had barely played 5 matches for us in League One, Best was a striker (which also has a premium as historically they're worth more) and had one Prem match and a few Championship games, but Clyne has significant first team experience at Palace in the Championship over a couple of seasons. Based on that, £1.5m confirmed rather than subject to arbitration is probably as good as Palace can expect to negotiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 any thoughts from CP fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 any thoughts from CP fans? They appear to rate Clyne really really highly and are not happy with the £1.5 million being quoted, were hoping for £3 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 any thoughts from CP fans? ''i thought he'd go somewhere better'' ''Southampton! Why bother moving'' ''I thought bigger clubs would be in for him" etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 ''i thought he'd go somewhere better'' ''Southampton! Why bother moving'' ''I thought bigger clubs would be in for him" etc. Surprisingly not in most cases (under Clyne thread): http://www.holmesdale.net/page.php?id=105&fid=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Surprisingly not in most cases (under Clyne thread): http://www.holmesdale.net/page.php?id=105&fid=1 fair enough, I was reading their other forums tbh which included the crap about us not being good enough etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 To the tune of Red Red Wine: Nathaniel Clyne, So good you can see, You know you're not alone, In tearing apart, Fratton Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Would be a great signing. Gone a bit quiet during the day, though; maybe another 9pm Friday night announcement?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 I say this not too be negative as I'm sure he's really good. But do I remember right that Adkins targeted him as a weak link when we played them last? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 I say this not too be negative as I'm sure he's really good. But do I remember right that Adkins targeted him as a weak link when we played them last? But that was more down to the opposing managers tactical ineptness than anything, why put your smallest player and a full back on the back post? Insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 I say this not too be negative as I'm sure he's really good. But do I remember right that Adkins targeted him as a weak link when we played them last? He had Lambert abuse him due to his height, not due to his ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 What this thread needs is THEVMAN to confirm this one is going through... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 What this thread needs is THEVMAN to confirm this one is going through... I dont read too much into things until I see one of his posts!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Didn't Adkins just say he couldn't see it happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Didn't Adkins just say he couldn't see it happening? Think he said he couldn't see Clyne "here", as in at the training ground earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 This signing is pretty much on the cards,dont ask for details tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Mirror Al said NC was def in building at time of presser!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 This signing is pretty much on the cards,dont ask for details tho. I love this man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 This signing is pretty much on the cards,dont ask for details tho. Done deal it is then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supergoose Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Cheers THEVMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 This signing is pretty much on the cards,dont ask for details tho. Any more over the next day or so?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Sounds good THEVMAN, hopefully will be completed quickly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Any more over the next day or so?!!Lets not get too silly about this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 This signing is pretty much on the cards,dont ask for details tho. Excellent, any inside info on Buttner - on or off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Anyone fancy another 9pm announcement?! Lets hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Lets not get too silly about this now. just look at my location!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 What this thread needs is THEVMAN to confirm this one is going through... This signing is pretty much on the cards,dont ask for details tho. If you don't ask, you don't get! Looks promising then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Just thought, maybe there will be a pre-tournament appearance by Clyne if the deal is finalised tomorrow morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Just thought' date=' maybe there will be a pre-tournament appearance by Clyne if the deal is finalised tomorrow morning?[/quote'] Highly unlikely as he'll need a medical and fitness test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 If you don't ask' date=' you don't get! Looks promising then.[/quote'] So just out of interest, does THEVMAN work for Southampton Football Club then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 So just out of interest, does THEVMAN work for Southampton Football Club then? Don't think so. I think he knows Lallana or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 So just out of interest, does THEVMAN work for Southampton Football Club then? I believe the general consensus is that he is good friends with one or more of the players? Either way he's almost always right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 he runs a beauty salon and they get a lot of the wags in there. The V stands for vajazzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 I believe the general consensus is that he is good friends with one or more of the players? Either way he's almost always right. Ah ok thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 What an awful song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 July, 2012 Share Posted 14 July, 2012 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/262084/Southampton-sign-Crystal-Palace-defender-Nathaniel-Clyne/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 14 July, 2012 Share Posted 14 July, 2012 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/262084/Southampton-sign-Crystal-Palace-defender-Nathaniel-Clyne/ OK, they think it's a done deal - cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 14 July, 2012 Share Posted 14 July, 2012 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/262084/Southampton-sign-Crystal-Palace-defender-Nathaniel-Clyne/ Good news if its true. Who's article/story is it? No reporter has put there name to the story. Makes you wonder if they have omitted their name on purpose to avoid anyone having a go at them if they've got it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 14 July, 2012 Share Posted 14 July, 2012 It just says By Daily Star Reporter at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 14 July, 2012 Share Posted 14 July, 2012 I'll jump around with joy if this signing comes off, think it'll be an awesome signing of the very highest calibre. Can't see us wrapping it up so soon though, we usually take 2-3 weeks to get someone signed, just look at the Buttner saga! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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