Kyle Naughton - Tottenham Hotspur (link in The Mirror)

[Matthew Le God]

The Sunday People on 8th July reported Saints had made a £5m bid for right back Naughton. It now "seems" like Villas-Boas wants to look at Naughton in pre-season before deciding to let him come to Saints or not. Naughton had a good spell last season as a regular on loan at mid table Norwich City.

 

11th July in The Mirror...

 

Tottenham’s new boss Andre Villas-Boas wants a good look at Kyle Naughton before deciding on a £5million bid from Southampton.

 

Saints are willing to pay close to Spurs’ valuation for Naughton. But AVB wants to see the defender, 23, up close and probably in pre-season games first.

 

Naughton was loaned to Norwich last season and Spurs recently priced Aston Villa out of a move for him.

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-close-in-on-joao-moutinho-to-leave-1138386

Edited 11 July, 2012 by Matthew Le God

[alpine_saint]

If I were NC I would indicate an expiry date on that offer and drop the price by 500K thereafter.

[pingwing]

It's approaching lunching so he's definitely hungry

[hypochondriac]

He's already shown he is happy to do a job for lesser premier league teams (rather than just going to the big ones) so we probably have a decent chance of getting a young english defender for five million. Good business if true.

[Tokyo-Saint]

Typical example of a player moving to a big club too early in their career and stagnating. The move to Norwich was a good idea, pity Bridge didn't do something similar early when Chelsea signed Cole (MLG - I know he signed for Fulham on loan, please don't point this out).

 

Bale found himself on the fringes at spurs until he found his feet and reinvented himself as a winger.

[Saint J 77]

All our offers seem to be around the 6 million mark. If they are true, we do seem to be flashing the cash a little. Obviously this is just a rumour but most of the rumours lately seem to suggest we have big money to spend. Of course it means nothing if we don't actually land the target or we do and then find out we were over priced. Players seem to be very expensive these days, there is hardly a bargin to be had anywhere, not even in the lower leagues. With todays prices being what they are, I'd say Rickie Lambert was an absolute bargin at 1 million, even a few years ago that was good value. I do wonder how much we intend to spend in this transfer window?

Edited 11 July, 2012 by Saint J 77

[Saint_clark]

Not sure he's better than Richardson in all honesty.

[hypochondriac]

Not sure he's better than Richardson in all honesty.

 

I'm not sure why you would think that.

[hypochondriac]

All our offers seem to be around the 6 million mark. If they are true, we do seem to be flashing the cash a little. Obviously this is just a rumour but most of the rumours lately seem to suggest we have big money to spend. Of course it means nothing if we don't actually land the target or we do and then find out we were over priced. Players seem to be very expensive these days, there is hardly a bargin to be had anywhere, not even in the lower leagues. With todays prices being what they are, I'd say Rickie Lambert was an absolute bargin at 1 million, even a few years ago that was good value. I do wonder how much we intend to spend in this transfer window?

 

TBF last year we were reported to have a lot to spend but ended up not spending that much. I suspect the same will happen this year.

[LVSaint]

TBF last year we were reported to have a lot to spend but ended up not spending that much. I suspect the same will happen this year.

 

I think we will spend a lot. This is the promised land we were aiming for. It'd be madness to risk our position if we hadn't spent what we were able to. Reason we didn't spend as much last term I think is because it became quickly apparent we were well equipped enough for the Championship. This is a huge jump.

[skintsaint]

Not sure he's better than Richardson in all honesty.

 

[John B]

Not sure he's better than Richardson in all honesty.

 

Based on exactly what

[John B]

If I were NC I would indicate an expiry date on that offer and drop the price by 500K thereafter.

 

 

Seems a particularly stupid post .

[saints_is_the_south]

This would be a great signing IMO. Get Zaha too and our right side would be revolutionalised and inject some much needed pace in to the side.

[alpine_saint]

Seems a particularly stupid post .

 

Care to explain why before you get stuck in with the moronic abuse ?

 

NA and NC are perfectly capable of shopping elsewhere before equally good deals disappear; we dont have to wait for Villas-Whatshisname to get his thumb out of his *rse and make his mind up. And if they come back to us ather dithering, why should we pay what we originally agreed ?

 

Feel sorry for you that you are only capable of one-dimensional thinking.

Edited 12 July, 2012 by alpine_saint

[hypochondriac]

I think we will spend a lot. This is the promised land we were aiming for. It'd be madness to risk our position if we hadn't spent what we were able to. Reason we didn't spend as much last term I think is because it became quickly apparent we were well equipped enough for the Championship. This is a huge jump.

 

We will see. Depends what your definition of a lot is. If we get Butttner then maybe we will have spent eight to ten million (though by all accounts in installments.) I reckon we will spend about 20 million all together. Is that an excessive amount in the premiership? Not saying we should be spending a lot of money just that I think we are moe careful with our cash than some papers suggest. It was the same last season.

[Fan The Flames]

The sort of players we are after, young and talented, should retain a decent amount of value. So we are buying assets as well as good players, good financial management.

[Saint_clark]

Based on exactly what

 

Based on seeing Richardson put in an outstanding season at Championship level, and not being that impressed by Naughton on the few occasions I did see him.

I didn't say he's NOT better, just that I'm not sure he is. I think Richardson will surprise everyone again this year.

[Saint Garrett]

Naughton is considerably better than Richardson. HTH.

[Saint_clark]

Naughton is considerably better than Richardson. HTH.

 

"Based on exactly what"? Richardson hasn't had the chance to prove himself at this level, so it's a bit unfair to just write him off - especially considering he was one of our best performers in a promotion to the Premier League.

[SuperMikey]

"Based on exactly what"? Richardson hasn't had the chance to prove himself at this level, so it's a bit unfair to just write him off - especially considering he was one of our best performers in a promotion to the Premier League.

 

Fair point, he was excellent last season. Personally I think he'll be a great 2nd choice RB, but I don't think he has the potential to improve with the club. He'll be a very steady back-up which is a good thing, but what we need is a younger, more dynamic attacking full-back with some pace. Frazer is good going forward, but he's not the best on the ball and lacks the pace to beat his marker - that's pace that Clyne and Naughton both have.

[Hopkins]

Care to explain why before you get stuck in with the moronic abuse ?

 

I'll have a go. It's a nice idea and works well in theory but in reality we won't be the only club wanting to sign Naughton and if we started playing stupid games like that Levy would either find it disrespectful or laugh his nut off and would resort to talking to other clubs or keeping him.

[Verbal]

I'll have a go. It's a nice idea and works well in theory but in reality we won't be the only club wanting to sign Naughton and if we started playing stupid games like that Levy would either find it disrespectful or laugh his nut off and would resort to talking to other clubs or keeping him.

 

Aka post 14.

[Thedelldays]

I have little doubt the Clyne/Naughton links have something in them, and Buttner is probably coming in. With Fox as well, it looks like a system with very attacking full backs. Perhaps we'll be looking at 3 central midfielders or a diamond formation.

 

Or, the same system as last year?

[Charlie Wayman]

All our offers seem to be around the 6 million mark. If they are true, we do seem to be flashing the cash a little. Obviously this is just a rumour but most of the rumours lately seem to suggest we have big money to spend.

 

£5m is not the '£6m mark' is it? This is the PL don't forget so chicken feed really even with declining prices and sales this season.

 

I do agree that £5m is still a whole lot of dosh and one can't help but wonder if a second string English RB from a medium sized club like spuds is worth the candle. Had he been from an Italian, Spanish or German club and palyed in the recent Euro comp then £5m great but he didn't and he probably won't be even England level so £2m tops even if we really, really want him.

[Saint Garrett]

"Based on exactly what"? Richardson hasn't had the chance to prove himself at this level, so it's a bit unfair to just write him off - especially considering he was one of our best performers in a promotion to the Premier League.

 

Based on him having a decent season but not amazing, he wasn't great defensively, but did have a great delivery. Naugton has a years experience in the Prem and was very good for Norwich last season. I would be absolutely delighted if we signed him. Also he was hugely rated at Sheff Utd and he's only 23. Huge potential.

[david in sweden]

All our offers seem to be around the 6 million mark. If they are true, we do seem to be flashing the cash a little.

 

 

This must be down to the naivety that exists in the media. Because we paid out £6 million for one player, they seem to assume we are bidding the same (or more ) for everyone we are linked with. Typical of the way the media/agents work. I very much doubt if we are likely to pay out anywhere near that sum again -so soon... for buying someone else's fringe player / reject / stand-in ...UNLESS we are to see a really " big name " international signing, in which case we'll get him for free / next-to nothing, and pay the guy BIG wages instead.

[Junction 9]

I have just read this whole thread wondering why people weren't more excited.

 

Then I realised I was thinking of Kyle Walker.

[beavis17]

I have just read this whole thread wondering why people weren't more excited.

 

Then I realised I was thinking of Kyle Walker.

 

I'm excited. I'd personally prefer him to Clyne.

[Saint_clark]

Fair point, he was excellent last season. Personally I think he'll be a great 2nd choice RB, but I don't think he has the potential to improve with the club. He'll be a very steady back-up which is a good thing, but what we need is a younger, more dynamic attacking full-back with some pace. Frazer is good going forward, but he's not the best on the ball and lacks the pace to beat his marker - that's pace that Clyne and Naughton both have.

 

I'd say that was one of his strengths, he was excellent at beating his man last season.

[kelkel31]

"Based on exactly what"? Richardson hasn't had the chance to prove himself at this level, so it's a bit unfair to just write him off - especially considering he was one of our best performers in a promotion to the Premier League.

 

quite simply there are two ways of looking at these things. one is to look at the sucesses of a particular player,which is the way you are looking at things, quite easy when a team has just been promoted and therfore playing well as a team. the other is to look at the players weaknesses that they showed at a lower level and show concerns with how they will cope with the step up.

 

the later arguements are easier with kelvin and in particular fox than they are with richardson but it depends on the way you look at the upcoming season i guess.

[Saint Without a Halo]

Care to explain why before you get stuck in with the moronic abuse ?

 

NA and NC are perfectly capable of shopping elsewhere before equally good deals disappear; we dont have to wait for Villas-Whatshisname to get his thumb out of his *rse and make his mind up. And if they come back to us ather dithering, why should we pay what we originally agreed ?

 

Feel sorry for you that you are only capable of one-dimensional thinking.

 

 

seemed sensible to me all offers these days in other industries have a validity period and it is good for the pressure to arrive at a deal to be two sided!