The9 Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Were we in a recession 10 years ago when our away support was also sh*t? No, THEN we'd been in the same division for 25+ years and a lot of people had been to places over and over again. Not much validity to your argument without the attendance figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Our attendances really werent that bad at all last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Hope I'll still be able to get one come pay day on the 25th. What is the limit on season ticket sales? If 22k have sold already, are there many spaces left? :/ Currently circa 32000 - 22006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Not everyones lives run around football. Sure people saw the weather and thought miss that one. Prob not an extra 1000, but prob another 500. Still werent bad attendance from what I remember. When did away tickets ever go on sale 3 weeks before a game anyway? I normally bought mine on the gate or a few days before. About the last 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Worth noting that our "disappointing" following at Middlesbrough (our furthest away match) was more than any other Championship side took, including Leeds and Hull, who are two of the nearest teams to Boro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Worth noting that our "disappointing" following at Middlesbrough (our furthest away match) was more than any other Championship side took, including Leeds and Hull, who are two of the nearest teams to Boro. Plus it was on sky too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 About the last 20 years. What and yuou bought them on the day of release for every game ? Never just thought, "oh I fancy going this weekend, wasnt going to but not got anything else to do" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 No, THEN we'd been in the same division for 25+ years and a lot of people had been to places over and over again. Not much validity to your argument without the attendance figures. Why did that never effect sales for WHL, Highbury, The Valley, Sellhurst etc then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Also interesting to note how few away attendance figures available from Portsmouth, anyone would think they had an interest in hiding true attendances from the taxman or didn't have the staff to work them out or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Worth noting that our "disappointing" following at Middlesbrough (our furthest away match) was more than any other Championship side took, including Leeds and Hull, who are two of the nearest teams to Boro. If Leeds could've got promoted there, they would've sold the Riverside out themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Why did that never effect sales for WHL, Highbury, The Valley, Sellhurst etc then? Didn't it ? I don't know. Have you got any attendance figures for that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 If Leeds could've got promoted there, they would've sold the Riverside out themselves. Hypothetical, and as it was they took fewer than we did there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 What and yuou bought them on the day of release for every game ? Never just thought, "oh I fancy going this weekend, wasnt going to but not got anything else to do" I've only once bought a ticket for an away game on the day and then was Mansfield when it was only pay on the turnstile. I always know if I'm going or not in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Hypothetical, and as it was they took fewer than we did there. But they weren't going for promotion so it doesn't compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Didn't it ? I don't know. Have you got any attendance figures for that ? Never used to publish them back in our Prem days, so I'm going from memory. My memory being that they were always sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Our average of '2,390' would have been a bit higher too if it included the 3,000 at the skates. Saints support on the road has never been any different in the 40+ years I've been going, it could be surprisingly massive (we took 10,000 away a number of times in the league and cup in the 70/80s - including north of the midlands Sheff Wed, Forest and West Brom) but another week poor. Due to our location I don't think it will ever be much different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsarum Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 It's all relevant. If we can get 30k to turn up but can only muster 1,500 for a Northern away game, that's poor. Bournemouth get 6,000 but take 700 away, that's pretty decent and proves my theory correct that our fans only like nice local trips. Bournemouth are lucky to take 200 to Northern games, and they didn't even sell 900 tickets for Brighton away on a saturday 2 seasons ago, so bang goes your theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 TCM, We're not as big of a club as you seen to think we are!!! Also our location isn't going to help attendances. If Southampton was based in Birmingham or London, I'm sure we would take more, fact is it's not and we're not a massive club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 I base a teams support on how their fans respond during poor periods in their history, not when we're flying up the leagues beating everyone. I base teams support by demographics & quite simply we have a whole younger generation travelling who we never had before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 TCM, We're not as big of a club as you seen to think we are!!! Also our location isn't going to help attendances. If Southampton was based in Birmingham or London, I'm sure we would take more, fact is it's not and we're not a massive club. Trust me, I don't think that. I spend most of my time on here trying to remind people we're not a big club. I just find people banging on about our support amusing, when it's really nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Pretty sure Derby was close to sell out as well. Leicester, Derby & Forest we sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Leicester, Derby & Forest we sold out.No we didn't. Derby and Leicester were close, but they still didn't sell out. There were a few hundred empty seats at Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 No we didn't. Derby and Leicester were close, but they still didn't sell out. There were a few hundred empty seats at Forest. Derby was sold out as we requested extra seats & couldn't have them as Derby had done a groupon deal in that block. My nipper was mascot that day & all the Derby people were amazed that we'd brought so many and said we had requested 500 more tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 No we didn't. Derby and Leicester were close, but they still didn't sell out. There were a few hundred empty seats at Forest. So 2.5k odd at each of those three games, all north of Oxford, shows our shi.t support does it? Simple truth is that our support is changing, getting younger & is much more likely to travel than the last time we were up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 It's been easy to travel over the last few years though for younger people as the tickets were cheap. It will be interesting to see how many of these younger lads can afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 That away stats table is interesting, and just goes to show how erratic every teams support is. I especially like Barsnley's vague gesture in 112 turning up at Palace. It also goes to show what a noddy club Reading are as their turnouts are wildy different. There's a few real pathetic eforts from them and we sold almost twice as many away tickets as they did last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Derby was sold out as we requested extra seats & couldn't have them as Derby had done a groupon deal in that block. My nipper was mascot that day & all the Derby people were amazed that we'd brought so many and said we had requested 500 more tickets. We were allocted 2,700 tickets for Derby and we only sold 2,611. We didn't sell out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 It also goes to show what a noddy club Reading are as their turnouts are wildy different. Worth noting that their 4 big away attendances - at Birmingham, Brighton, Saints and West Ham - were all in the last two months of the season. 719 to Bristol City, 815 to Coventry and especially 943 to Watford is pathetic. The home attendances follow a similar pattern, they only got 20k+ 4 times before March, and every single one of them (Saints, Cardiff, Brighton, West Ham) was when the away team sold at least 2500 (us and West Ham had 4k+). Still, Reading being tinpot is nothing new... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 We were allocted 2,700 tickets for Derby and we only sold 2,611. We didn't sell out. Is 2600 at Leicester & Derby, both north of Oxford, sh.it support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 We were allocted 2,700 tickets for Derby and we only sold 2,611. We didn't sell out. I tried to get a ticket for Derby at short notice (about a day or two before the game) and was told by the ticket office that it was sold out. Any that weren't taken on the day would have been player comps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Is 2600 at Leicester & Derby, both north of Oxford, sh.it support? It's alright. Not good, not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 I tried to get a ticket for Derby at short notice (about a day or two before the game) and was told by the ticket office that it was sold out. Any that weren't taken on the day would have been player comps. Can't be right, same as being told by Derby we'd sold out can't be right as our support is sh.it, despite the evidence that it's improved significantly since our last visit to the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 I tried to get a ticket for Derby at short notice (about a day or two before the game) and was told by the ticket office that it was sold out. Any that weren't taken on the day would have been player comps. Surely they'd already be counted in the total? Or do they take the attendance from the amount of people through the turnstiles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 It's alright. Not good, not great. You're clearly going to have a lifetime of disappointment then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Surely they'd already be counted in the total? Or do they take the attendance from the amount of people through the turnstiles? Latter, for fire reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Can't be right, same as being told by Derby we'd sold out can't be right as our support is sh.it, despite the evidence that it's improved significantly since our last visit to the Premier League. Of course it's improved. People like to jump on a bandwagon. As I said, the test comes when you're not doing well - in the past when we've not being doing well, our support has been sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Of course it's improved. People like to jump on a bandwagon. As I said, the test comes when you're not doing well - in the past when we've not being doing well, our support has been sh*t. I'm not arguing that point, merely observing that the demographic of our away support, especially in the North, has changed & become younger and appear much more willing to travel than previous generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Surely they'd already be counted in the total? Or do they take the attendance from the amount of people through the turnstiles? It varies by club. While, for evacuation reasons, safety personnel will always know how many people are present in each stand, attendance figures are often published in terms of tickets sold rather than turnstile clicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 But they weren't going for promotion so it doesn't compare. And we had to travel 300 miles more than they did, so it doesn't compare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Maybe we need a bit of marketing like this; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Maybe we need a bit of marketing like this; All we have is a couple of dogs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 All we have is a couple of dogs! In fairness there were a couple in that video as well, but it was worth the watch just for the water balloon at 2.27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 And we had to travel 300 miles more than they did, so it doesn't compare... So why use them in your original comparison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 So why use them in your original comparison? Because I was being sarcastic in the last message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Watford away was sold out.....that was our allocation.....as those who were there would tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Watford away was sold out.....that was our allocation.....as those who were there would tell you. Watford is south of Oxford, so I'm not sure what relevance your post has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_DB Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 When Reading came to St Mary's they were effectively playing for the Championship title and only brought 200 more than we took to Boro. Their journey was a whole lot easier. Did Reading sell out their allocation? Incidentally on my train back to London after that game a couple of theirs were giving me (and some others) stick for being a plastic fan from London, and wouldn't listen when I said I moved there from the south in February. The irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Octopus Posted 12 July, 2012 Share Posted 12 July, 2012 Maybe we need a bit of marketing like this; That's hilarious!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 When Reading came to St Mary's they were effectively playing for the Championship title and only brought 200 more than we took to Boro. Their journey was a whole lot easier. Did Reading sell out their allocation? Incidentally on my train back to London after that game a couple of theirs were giving me (and some others) stick for being a plastic fan from London, and wouldn't listen when I said I moved there from the south in February. The irony. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 July, 2012 Share Posted 13 July, 2012 Might give it a miss, the combination of their hallarious wit there last season "One hundred and three, one hundred and threeeeee, we hold the record, one hundred and three" and the wall of noise from the 27,000 Waitrose rotisserie chicken fed loons tooled up with "rumble sticks" will be too much for me. It was (and is) 106, like anyone cares, but your point is still valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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