simo Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 According to the security in the megastore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 According to the security in the megastore Excellent. Hope it's a new kit. I will definitely buy that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 I was wondering what we'd be wearing at Stoke and Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 According to the security in the megastore With blue pinstripes ? We're just poncing cheaply off the Swedes, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 That doesn't necessarily mean a "new" third kit though, Umbro haven't produced 3 kits for anyone in a season for ages and their teams with 3 kits use one from the previous season. Even Man City did that last year, and they're not short of a few quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 That doesn't necessarily mean a "new" third kit though, Umbro haven't produced 3 kits for anyone in a season for ages and their teams with 3 kits use one from the previous season. Even Man City did that last year, and they're not short of a few quid. Who is the f**king customer in the Club/Kit supplier relationship, FFS ? I keep hearing about what Umbro do and dont do. I am so glad our relationship with them is coming to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 As I've said countless times, I was told last season by the club, and it was published at the time of release, that our yellow kit from last season will be our 3rd kit this coming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 As I've said countless times, I was told last season by the club, and it was published at the time of release, that our yellow kit from last season will be our 3rd kit this coming season. Why has there been a 50% clearance sale on it then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 I'll buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 Who is the f**king customer in the Club/Kit supplier relationship, FFS ? I keep hearing about what Umbro do and dont do. I am so glad our relationship with them is coming to an end. Depends what was in the contract they signed, doesn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 Why has there been a 50% clearance sale on it then ? Maybe they don't intend doing a new production run for sale to the public given that it'll only be used by the team for a couple of games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 Why has there been a 50% clearance sale on it then ? It was absolutely not published at time of release as claimed above anyway, I know that much for absolutely certain. That's also the bit that I think makes no sense, but then it's not unprecedented that we leave money on the table with some kit decisions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 We wont have a third kit. The home and away kit can be worn in 6 different combinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 Maybe they don't intend doing a new production run for sale to the public given that it'll only be used by the team for a couple of games? That's not really the same as actively flogging it off cheap though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 That's not really the same as actively flogging it off cheap though. It would be a bit off for the club to sell it full price if it really is only going to be used once or twice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 We wont have a third kit. The home and away kit can be worn in 6 different combinations. Pop over to the new kit thread and try and find one of those combinations that doesn't clash with Stoke's home kit, which has white shorts and socks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 It would be a bit off for the club to sell it full price if it really is only going to be used once or twice though. They knocked 25% off the black anniversary kit and only wore it once afterwards in 2010/11... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 It was absolutely not published at time of release as claimed above anyway, I know that much for absolutely certain. That's also the bit that I think makes no sense, but then it's not unprecedented that we leave money on the table with some kit decisions... Not for the 1st time you're wrong. They explained that whilst the two kits would be (h) & (a) for one season only they 2nd kit, to ensure that the expenditure, especially for those with kids, could be minimised was by way of the 2nd kit (11/12) become 3rd kit (12/13). Now run along and get searching, we know how you hate to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 (edited) Not for the 1st time you're wrong. They explained that whilst the two kits would be (h) & (a) for one season only they 2nd kit, to ensure that the expenditure, especially for those with kids, could be minimised was by way of the 2nd kit (11/12) become 3rd kit (12/13). Now run along and get searching, we know how you hate to be wrong. No, they didn't. I don't need to check, you just made it up. Just for the hell of it though, here's the launch picture, with the validity dates of the kit : First sentence in this link ? "Saints have made a popular return to the colours that have served them well over the years with the launch of a yellow and blue design for the 2011/12 campaign." http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2400067,00.html Edited 2 July, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 (edited) Cheers though, cos I also found "Almost 1,000 supporters have already guaranteed their shirt on pre-order" in this link http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2397705,00.html about last season's home kit, which hadn't even been unveiled at that point, and is certainly a thousand people you'd have expected to buy whatever the new kit was without even thinking about it. Where were they on Sunday and today ? Oh, and here's the launch article, no mention of your completely made up nonsense about third kits for 2012/13... http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2402382,00.html Edited 2 July, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 \here it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 \here it is. Brilliant lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 Now is that yellow and red stripes, or is there red and grey, or is it classed as a all yellow top? So many answers required. I'll buy it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 Correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't our home kit in 08/09 only meant to be a one season job? It wouldn't be unprecidented for a kit to be extended out for an extra year if required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 July, 2012 Share Posted 3 July, 2012 \here it is. hehehehehe. That's f**king awful. Anyhoo, if it isnt last seasons away kit (and it seems a perfectly sensible approach if the Umbro High Command bunkered up in their sporting equivalent of the Wolfsschanze wont let little lowly scum like SFC have a new 3rd kit in the most bizarre interpretation of the supplier/customer relationship ever), I still think if a 3rd kit is really necessary it will be Swedens kit re-badged. Its only for a couple of games, and its a cheap solution. If this the case, I doubt it will go on sale to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 3 July, 2012 Share Posted 3 July, 2012 hehehehehe. That's f**king awful. Anyhoo, if it isnt last seasons away kit (and it seems a perfectly sensible approach if the Umbro High Command bunkered up in their sporting equivalent of the Wolfsschanze wont let little lowly scum like SFC have a new 3rd kit in the most bizarre interpretation of the supplier/customer relationship ever), I still think if a 3rd kit is really necessary it will be Swedens kit re-badged. Its only for a couple of games, and its a cheap solution. If this the case, I doubt it will go on sale to the public. Better still if it's Sweden's second strip - blue with yellow sash.But I doubt it will be,as we have obviously become this years dumping ground for the Umbro pinstripe range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 3 July, 2012 Share Posted 3 July, 2012 Sunderland have not released there home kit yet, but will most likely have more red then white, so were be able to wear our white away top, stokes has red sleeves, so should be ok for the white again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 3 July, 2012 Share Posted 3 July, 2012 \here it is. Don't joke...Replace the red for blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 3 July, 2012 Share Posted 3 July, 2012 Sunderland have not released there home kit yet, but will most likely have more red then white, so were be able to wear our white away top, stokes has red sleeves, so should be ok for the white again. Agreed. Clubs wear change kits just for the sake of it some times. All white shirt (ok with pinstripes invisible from anywhere further than 10 yards) red shorts red socks against mainly red shirts with white stripes white shorts and white socks. Anyone confused by which team is which needs a serious eye test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 3 July, 2012 Share Posted 3 July, 2012 Agreed. Clubs wear change kits just for the sake of it some times. All white shirt (ok with pinstripes invisible from anywhere further than 10 yards) red shorts red socks against mainly red shirts with white stripes white shorts and white socks. Anyone confused by which team is which needs a serious eye test. Cracking over-simplification there. Its not a case of being confused by which team is which, is it? Its whether there is any risk, at all, of any of the players in the heat of the game not being able to distinguish instantly between a team mate and an opposition player. If the PL and referee decide they're happy there's no conflict then we're fine. If they decide there is then we'll need a third kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 3 July, 2012 Share Posted 3 July, 2012 Pretty sure there have been games over the past couple of seasons where away clubs have worn red and/or white kits at St Mary's. I remember being surprised as I'd have thought it was a clash, but the powers that be obviously felt differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 3 July, 2012 Share Posted 3 July, 2012 Cracking over-simplification there. Its not a case of being confused by which team is which, is it? Its whether there is any risk, at all, of any of the players in the heat of the game not being able to distinguish instantly between a team mate and an opposition player. If the PL and referee decide they're happy there's no conflict then we're fine. If they decide there is then we'll need a third kit. Well if that's not a definition of being confused by which team is which I don't know what is. Not relevant to a third kit but I often wonder if a Saints player (for example) plays all home games and around 50% of away games in an (old stylee) red and white striped shirt, is he likely - in the heat of the game as you describe - to mistakenly pass to a Stoke or Sunderland player, irrespective of what colour strip Saints are in on the day. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSarah Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Saints playing in last seasons yellow kit for the Arsenal game, need a large boys kit, see in wanted section. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Better still if it's Sweden's second strip - blue with yellow sash.But I doubt it will be,as we have obviously become this years dumping ground for the Umbro pinstripe range. I hope so that Sweden kit is the best kit ever designed - in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Saints playing in last seasons yellow kit for the Arsenal game, need a large boys kit, see in wanted section. Thanks. But that can't be true. The9 said I was totally & utterly wrong about us wearing last seasons yellow kit this season despite being told that by the club last year. We know The9 is never, ever wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 we wore the yellow kit at bristol city in the friendly. It will be our 3rd kit this year, will probably get an outting against sunderland and stoke My guess is someone ****ed up and didn't realise having just an all red and an all white kit would clash so they've retained it as the 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 But that can't be true. The9 said I was totally & utterly wrong about us wearing last seasons yellow kit this season despite being told that by the club last year. We know The9 is never, ever wrong. You are incorrect, again. What I told you you were utterly wrong about was saying that the club had said (at any point, and they still haven't officially, yet) that the yellow kit would last for more than one season. You claimed that they told us on launch in 2011 that it would be for 2 seasons, and they didn't, they clearly launched it for 2011/12 only as detailed on the links I gave above. Note also the launch image below. Also, I said in the original kit thread that I expected us to use the yellow kit as a third one if we had a white away kit, but it made no sense that they were selling the yellow kit off cheaply if they were going to use it this season. As it happens, they have clearly decided to retain it for a second season DESPITE all of this, but we've also known that since they wore it at Bristol City with the Premier League numbers on the back IN BLUE, which meant that they'd actually got a load of numbers in especially for the kit - if it was a one off they'd have just used the black numbers on the away kit for that one. A bloke who works in the Megastore confirmed this to me on the night of the Bristol game and said they sold it off because they didn't expect people would want to buy a kit that was a year old. That still doesn't mean the club said it would be used this season, they didn't, and they still haven't. And FWIW, I've been watching Navy Prem numbers on eBay for about a month as I'm considering Premming-up last year's kit rather than buying this years aberration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Pretty sure there have been games over the past couple of seasons where away clubs have worn red and/or white kits at St Mary's. I remember being surprised as I'd have thought it was a clash, but the powers that be obviously felt differently. I've not yet got over Burnley and Saints both wearing white socks at Turf Moor last season - considering FIFA now have rules preventing the use of different coloured tape on socks to stop refs getting confused between the two teams you'd think that not wearing the same coloured socks would be a given. As it happens, Saints introduced alternate blue away socks for much of the rest of the season (and also wore the white away socks with the home kit in away matches against Watford and the Skates to avoid the red socks clashing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Agreed. Clubs wear change kits just for the sake of it some times. All white shirt (ok with pinstripes invisible from anywhere further than 10 yards) red shorts red socks against mainly red shirts with white stripes white shorts and white socks. Anyone confused by which team is which needs a serious eye test. Teams changing colours by mixing in colours of the opposition's kit is one of the bugbears of mine about kit clashes. How can red/white/red vs white/red/white be less of a clash than red/white/red against white/white/white ? The team in all white will never pass to the team in red accidentally, the team in red will look for the red shirts or socks to pass to. If you mix both the colours as in the first instance, you get people getting a glimpse of the other colour and passing to the opposition. Worst kit clash I ever played in was yellow with blue sleeves/blue/yellow against blue/yellow stripes/blue/blue - it was an absolute nightmare and the ref told the home team to change their shirts after 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I still like the yellow kit, maybe I just hate the new kit so much it makes me like Yellow more; "yellows yellows" and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 (edited) You are incorrect, again. What I told you you were utterly wrong about was saying that the club had said (at any point, and they still haven't officially, yet) that the yellow kit would last for more than one season. You claimed that they told us on launch in 2011 that it would be for 2 seasons, and they didn't, they clearly launched it for 2011/12 only as detailed on the links I gave above. Note also the launch image below. Also, I said in the original kit thread that I expected us to use the yellow kit as a third one if we had a white away kit, but it made no sense that they were selling the yellow kit off cheaply if they were going to use it this season. As it happens, they have clearly decided to retain it for a second season DESPITE all of this, but we've also known that since they wore it at Bristol City with the Premier League numbers on the back IN BLUE, which meant that they'd actually got a load of numbers in especially for the kit - if it was a one off they'd have just used the black numbers on the away kit for that one. A bloke who works in the Megastore confirmed this to me on the night of the Bristol game and said they sold it off because they didn't expect people would want to buy a kit that was a year old. That still doesn't mean the club said it would be used this season, they didn't, and they still haven't. And FWIW, I've been watching Navy Prem numbers on eBay for about a month as I'm considering Premming-up last year's kit rather than buying this years aberration. So I wasn't told, by the club, last season that the yellow kit would be used this season as our 3rd kit. Nope, I was never told & never, ever mentioned it. Nope, the club never, ever told me, months ago, that it was going to be used. I was simply making it all up. Crikey, what a ruse it was. I never said the club announced it I said I was told by the club. Big difference. I knew who to ask, I asked, and was given the answer & fu.ck me, well I never, it was right & you were wrong. Haven't gut the balls to admit it though have you you spineless weasel. Edited 22 August, 2012 by View From The Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 So I wasn't told, by the club, last season that the yellow kit would be used this season as our 3rd kit. Nope, I was never told & never, ever mentioned it. Nope, the club never, ever told me, months ago, that it was going to be used. I was simply making it all up. Crikey, what a ruse it was. I never said the club announced it I said I was told by the club. Big difference. I knew who to ask, I asked, and was given the answer & fu.ck me, well I never, it was right & you were wrong. Haven't gut the balls to admit it though have you you spineless weasel. Mate, this forum is full of people who always know better. I remember a few years ago when I reported about the bust up in the dressing room at Kenilworth Road. I knew about it because I know Dave Bassett and he told me exactly what had gone on. He had no option but to tell me all the details as he phoned my mobile by accident and left a message for Dennis Wise!!! :-0 I remember saying that Wise wouldn't be playing for Saints again and that the club would say that he was injured. This is exactly what happened yet certain people on the forum still told me that I was full of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewb Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/handbooks/premier-league-handbook-2012-2013.pdf According to Page 27 of the Premier League Handbook (link to document above). Saints Alternative Kit No:2 is Shirts: Yellow Shorts: Blue Socks: White Or blue Goalkeepers Shirt: Green and/or grey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 (edited) http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/handbooks/premier-league-handbook-2012-2013.pdf According to Page 27 of the Premier League Handbook (link to document above). Saints Alternative Kit No:2 is Shirts: Yellow Shorts: Blue Socks: White Or blue Goalkeepers Shirt: Green and/or grey Nice spot, I've been waiting for them to upload that since Saturday, and thought it might be the first place it would be confirmed online - though last season's Handbook didn't actually come out until December ! Edited 22 August, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 (edited) So I wasn't told, by the club, last season that the yellow kit would be used this season as our 3rd kit. Nope, I was never told & never, ever mentioned it. Nope, the club never, ever told me, months ago, that it was going to be used. I was simply making it all up. Crikey, what a ruse it was. I never said the club announced it I said I was told by the club. Big difference. I knew who to ask, I asked, and was given the answer & fu.ck me, well I never, it was right & you were wrong. Haven't gut the balls to admit it though have you you spineless weasel. You never once said "the club had told YOU", and instead chose to argue that "the club had told everyone when the kit was launched", which as I've repeatedly proven, was utter cobblers. Even if you did know, you did a remarkable job of making it look like you didn't. PS It takes more balls to stand up for yourself than cave in to someone misrepresenting what they said to try and score points. Edited 22 August, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jude Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/handbooks/premier-league-handbook-2012-2013.pdf According to Page 27 of the Premier League Handbook (link to document above). Saints Alternative Kit No:2 is Shirts: Yellow Shorts: Blue Socks: White Or blue Goalkeepers Shirt: Green and/or grey Great spot... And is obviously last years design. Did you notice that NC is down as Mr Nicola Cortese... Whereas everyone else has no prefix title.. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/handbooks/premier-league-handbook-2012-2013.pdf According to Page 27 of the Premier League Handbook (link to document above). Saints Alternative Kit No:2 is Shirts: Yellow Shorts: Blue Socks: White Or blue Goalkeepers Shirt: Green and/or grey I have a few questions to ask: Why do they show our yellow kit as a side on view? Why do Aston Villa's kits have one arm longer than the other? Nice spot, I've been waiting for them to upload that since Saturday, and thought it might be the first place it would be confirmed online - though last season's Handbook didn't actually come out until December ! Have you really been looking forward to it? Really? That strikes me as being on par with looking forward to getting phone calls about mis-sold PPI. Anyhow, thank goodness we didn't all have to wait til December though, eh?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bensfcno1 Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Have you really been looking forward to it? Really? That strikes me as being on par with looking forward to getting phone calls about mis-sold PPI. Anyhow, thank goodness we didn't all have to wait til December though, eh?!. Funny you say that, my many calls about mis-sold PPI led to a specifying claim and a refund which has almost paid for my season ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 August, 2012 Share Posted 23 August, 2012 I have a few questions to ask: Why do they show our yellow kit as a side on view? Why do Aston Villa's kits have one arm longer than the other? Have you really been looking forward to it? Really? That strikes me as being on par with looking forward to getting phone calls about mis-sold PPI. Anyhow, thank goodness we didn't all have to wait til December though, eh?! I think the fact I wasn't the first person to actually see it had been uploaded answers my commitment to that particular online "watch", but yeah, was looking forward to having the various bits of detail confirmed "officially". The various random kit drawings are presumably lifted from the drafts delivered to the club by the manufacturer, and as these are from different years, that would probably explain it. I note they've said "white OR blue" socks, though the pic is of the blue socks, and we already have white away socks with the narrow red hoops. Still considering just sticking Prem numbers on my yellow shirt and saving myself £30 for a new shirt though. Villa's kit just shows what an arm looks like folded. For some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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