doubleonothing Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 Woosh. I had meant we could have Cork & Butland..... I got it Phil. Maybe I should have put in one of those winking smiley things........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WokingSaint Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 I bet Becks is glad he doesn't have to wear that awful kit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 I think Rodriguez will be over 23 by the time the Olympics start, may be wrong on that. My initial thoughts were ''where is Lallana, or Rodriguez'' etc - but they don't meet the u23 criteria. Rodriguez qualifies as u23 as his birthday is after the cut off date which is 1 Jan 1989. Lallana doesn't, born May 1988. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 I bet Becks is glad he doesn't have to wear that awful kit! i think he would be very happy indeed to wear the kit as it is made by Adidas who pay him loads of money every year i bet they are a tad disappointed he wasn't picked. think of the shirt sales they have missed out on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 I bet Becks is glad he doesn't have to wear that awful kit! I shouldn't think he's worried, as I've pointed out elsewhere, he's already wearing "Olympic Pink" boots which match the adidas Albert match ball, which is a horrendous white and pink Olympic logo branded reworking of the Tango ball. As far as the kit goes, there's a slightly more tasteful white/grey away kit. If they play Argentina they'll have Stoke v Saints kind of problems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 Whilst I appreciate Jack Cork is decent and I,m glad as he is a Saints player I really can not see it and particularly in ahead of AL, it just doesn't make any sense....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 Whilst I appreciate Jack Cork is decent and I,m glad as he is a Saints player I really can not see it and particularly in ahead of AL, it just doesn't make any sense....... Lallana is over 23 therefore would have needed to take one of 3 spaces and never stood a chance. Surprised sordell was picked ahead of jay rod though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 Whilst I appreciate Jack Cork is decent and I,m glad as he is a Saints player I really can not see it and particularly in ahead of AL, it just doesn't make any sense....... Pearce would have had to drop one of Bellamy, Giggs or Richards to allow Lallana to be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 Lallana is over 23 therefore would have needed to take one of 3 spaces and never stood a chance. Surprised sordell was picked ahead of jay rod though Surprised he was picked ahead of Jordan Rhodes to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 2 July, 2012 Share Posted 2 July, 2012 Lallana is over 23 therefore would have needed to take one of 3 spaces and never stood a chance. Surprised sordell was picked ahead of jay rod though Sordell has been talked about in terms of an Olympic place for a while now, so its no surprise he's been called up. Whether it should be on place of JRod or not is another matter, but the fact he's played more for the U21s than Rodriguez was no doubt a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 3 July, 2012 Share Posted 3 July, 2012 So do they have seven subs or five for this tournament ? Just want to know if Jack will actually be on the bench when he is not starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 3 July, 2012 Share Posted 3 July, 2012 So do they have seven subs or five for this tournament ? Just want to know if Jack will actually be on the bench when he is not starting. Would expect him on the bench regardless given that I'm sure his versatility was one of the main reasons for his selection, as a substitute he gives so many options and covers so many positions it would be stupid not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 3 July, 2012 Share Posted 3 July, 2012 So do they have seven subs or five for this tournament ? Just want to know if Jack will actually be on the bench when he is not starting. If its anything like the WC or Euros then the whole squad is on the bench for every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Interview with him is up on the OS. He will obviously miss a chunk of pre-season training. Just hope he doesn't get injured in one of these matches. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2834974,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Interview with him is up on the OS. He will obviously miss a chunk of pre-season training. Just hope he doesn't get injured in one of these matches. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2834974,00.html Its a shame he has to miss a big part of the pre-season with the squad. But I guess its an honour for him to be picked. As he says it reflects well not just for him but the club as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 July, 2012 Share Posted 8 July, 2012 (edited) there are a lot of IF's here, but ...with his previous record of U16 - U21 apps.... Jack would have been a natural candidate for the full E. squad had it not been for the likes of established players like Gerrard, Lampard and Terry in the team.... PLUS naturally his lack of games at Prem level was the real factor. ....but as the England side is in transition at the moment, I fully expect to see Roy Hodgson watching every match.. and IF...Jack gets in a few good games and Team GB do well, we might see more of him in the future squads, especially if Saints are performing well next season ...IF ...... Edited 8 July, 2012 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 20 July, 2012 Share Posted 20 July, 2012 First and only warm up game against Brazil tonight on BBC 1 at 7:30. Will be interesting to see Corky get a run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 Still on bench so far tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 Keep him on the bench theirs hatchet men out there,dont want him injured playing for this **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 This is like watching Cameroon v Argentina in World Cup 1990, ridiculous tackles going in everywhere from the over-enthusiastic Africans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cool Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 JC about to come on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 Be ****ing careful Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDogMatt Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 Go Jack show em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 Oh dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 This is like watching Cameroon v Argentina in World Cup 1990, ridiculous tackles going in everywhere from the over-enthusiastic Africans. That was an awful tackle on Bellamy. Could easily have snapped his leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 What an impact by the substitute!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 If this was Ice Hockey, his +- stats would show an unimpressive -1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 So do they have seven subs or five for this tournament ? Just want to know if Jack will actually be on the bench when he is not starting. 18 squad members, all non-starters are on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 He lost the bloke for the goal and didn't mark their striker who missed badly with a header. Other than that he was fantastic. Awful atmosphere in the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 I'd have preferred Corky not to have got on the pitch in that match. The British boys got absolutely no protection from the officials. 2 of their players should have been sent off for second or even third bookables and the guy who scythed Bellamy should have got straight red and wasn't even penalised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 That assault on Bellamy was hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 That assault on Bellamy was hilarious. It was savage, though Bellamy over-egged it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 (edited) I loved the Senagalese tackling and attitude. Reminded me of my Sunday league football mornings on Hackney Marshes Essex Senior league playing against some of the nastiest characters of East London in the eighties. A real throwback. That's real football before you were'nt allowed to "show your studs" ffs. Getting the ball AND the man was a real skill once and source of pleasure for players and spectators alike. Football is poorer for it now being "dangerous play" or some other PC nonsense. Getting your head slightly elbowed whilst going up for a header or even attempting to compete for a high ball with a keeper- no problem, get on with it, do it back next time. "Uncontested" drop balls - fekk that - football is a competitive game - get in there and take that ball. Sorry if that is not a popular pov. I actually love beautiful passing football of The Southampton Way variety and all that Cosmic footie stuff and really am dismissive of long ball hooffootball.....but i still have a part of me that respects the old school footballers who gave it and took it without whinging and rolling over holding their heads/legs/select part of body as if they been stabbed or something.Pansies. Edited 27 July, 2012 by Giordano Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 I loved the Senagalese tackling and attitude. Reminded me of my Sunday league football mornings on Hackney Marshes Essex Senior league playing against some of the nastiest characters of East London in the eighties. A real throwback. That's real football before you were'nt allowed to "show your studs" ffs. Getting the ball AND the man was a real skill once and source of pleasure for players and spectators alike. Football is poorer for it now being "dangerous play" or some other PC nonsense. Getting your head slightly elbowed whilst going up for a header or even attempting to compete for a high ball with a keeper- no problem, get on with it, do it back next time. "Uncontested" drop balls - fekk that - football is a competitive game - get in there and take that ball. Sorry if that is not a popular pov. I actually love beautiful passing football of The Southampton Way variety and all that Cosmic footie stuff and really am dismissive of long ball hooffootball.....but i still have a part of me that respects the old school footballers who gave it and took it without whinging and rolling over holding their heads/legs/select part of body as if they been stabbed or something.Pansies. Personally, I'm quite relieved that part of the game has been more or less done away with. Chopper Harris or Dirty Leeds et al didnt do anything for the beautiful game imho. And yes, that Senegalese hatchet job on Bellamy deserved a straight red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 (edited) Personally, I'm quite relieved that part of the game has been more or less done away with. Chopper Harris or Dirty Leeds et al didnt do anything for the beautiful game imho. And yes, that Senegalese hatchet job on Bellamy deserved a straight red. Agreed. As someone who played pre- and post- 1994, I was delighted with the straight red card for the tackle from behind, and the fact it was a specific directive. The rewording of the laws to penalise [EDIT]"excessive force" challenges with a red has make pretty much everything a potential red card, and the sudden desire from referees to punish the injury not the challenge is the biggest problem. Now, you can make a perfectly "fair" challenge, completely controlled and no danger to the opponent, but if he falls flat on his face tripping over you as you get up, you can get sent off. It's just all round poor refereeing - just as not penalising obviously excessive and painful challenges like the Senegalese one on Bellamy is also bad refereeing. Of course the irony for me is that my knee got wrecked with a two-footed knee-high sliding tackle from behind in 2000, for which the offender wasn't even given a yellow card, because 6 years after it was known to be a statutory red, the refs had all but stopped giving out cards for it at all. I think we got a free kick as I crawled off the pitch. All you can ask is that the refs are consistent, and letting leg breakers go unpunished is not consistent. Edited 27 July, 2012 by The9 Excessive force not recklessness is the red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kirkup Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Although I'm glad that part has been done away with, the result is now that the goalposts have moved and almost any contact is given as a foul. From people I talk to this seems to be the most irritating part of watching nowdays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydney_saint Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Agreed. As someone who played pre- and post- 1994, I was delighted with the straight red card for the tackle from behind, and the fact it was a specific directive. The rewording of the laws to penalise "reckless" challenges with a red has make pretty much everything a potential red card, and the sudden desire from referees to punish the injury not the challenge is the biggest problem. Now, you can make a perfectly "fair" challenge, completely controlled and no danger to the opponent, but if he falls flat on his face tripping over you as you get up, you can get sent off. It's just all round poor refereeing - just as not penalising obviously reckless and painful challenges like the Senegalese one on Bellamy is also bad refereeing. Of course the irony for me is that my knee got wrecked with a two-footed knee-high sliding tackle from behind in 2000, for which the offender wasn't even given a yellow card, because 6 years after it was known to be a statutory red, the refs had all but stopped giving out cards for it at all. I think we got a free kick as I crawled off the pitch. All you can ask is that the refs are consistent, and letting leg breakers go unpunished is not consistent. Excellent work there criticising the referees....if only you happened to know the rules. Reckless is only a bookable offence, excessive force is a send off HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 (edited) Excellent work there criticising the referees....if only you happened to know the rules. Reckless is only a bookable offence, excessive force is a send off HTH What are these "rules" of which you speak ? You're right though, the Laws are : Careless, reckless, using excessive force “Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution. • No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless “Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent. • A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned “Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent. • A player who uses excessive force must be sent off" Apologies for the brain-blip, I forgot the excessive force category sat above reckless (too busy trying not to mention the defunct concepts of "intent" and "proportionate force" and have edited the original. It's just a shame the refs clearly can't judge excessive force, isn't it ? Ask Jack Rodwell and Craig Bellamy. Edited 27 July, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Bet NA is hacked off, means JC will be away from pre season for another few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 The two players that have made an impression on me in the matches so far are Butland, who does look the real deal, and Bellamy who seems to be all over the park making a young side tick. Makes you wonder the effect a old wise head would have on the current Saints side, and what price Butland will finally go for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Bet NA is hacked off, means JC will be away from pre season for another few days Yeah with no pre-season to speak of under his belt either. A whole 3 mins tonight !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 The two players that have made an impression on me in the matches so far are Butland, who does look the real deal, and Bellamy who seems to be all over the park making a young side tick. Makes you wonder the effect a old wise head would have on the current Saints side, and what price Butland will finally go for... Would love to see us sign Bellamy. Exactly the type of player we need and could do a job for a couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Cork's really getting a good amount of game time, isn't he? Great preseason for him so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Butland is ****ing me off, people are gushing over him when he does the simplest things....like catching Suarez free kick at the end which was basically right at him! Looks alright, but for £7m? Na Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Would love to see us sign Bellamy. Exactly the type of player we need and could do a job for a couple of seasons. Going back to Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Going back to Cardiff. To follow their long tradition of signing players who are incredibly injury prone and therefore past it, including in the past few years Robbie Fowler and Jimmy-Floyd Hasselbaink. They have managed to shift on Kenny Miller to Vancouver Whitecaps though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 To follow their long tradition of signing players who are incredibly injury prone and therefore past it, including in the past few years Robbie Fowler and Jimmy-Floyd Hasselbaink. They have managed to shift on Kenny Miller to Vancouver Whitecaps though. Don't forget they signed Jon 'Giant Haystacks' Parkin as well. Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 Would love to see us sign Bellamy. Exactly the type of player we need and could do a job for a couple of seasons. A million times no...divisive tw*t who can start a scrap in an empty room. Agreed ok preseason but not for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 1 August, 2012 Share Posted 1 August, 2012 A million times no...divisive tw*t who can start a scrap in an empty room. Agreed ok preseason but not for us! Sounds like you know him well then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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