Bailey Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Have heard we're in talks to sign Jermaine Jenas from Spurs. Loan initially to prove fitness, with a permanent deal to follow. Thoughts?
Lighthouse Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Played 3 games last season. Anyone know how bad his injury is? Can't say I'm overly enthusiastic is any case.
It's There Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 disagree- if fitness is proved, he will return to being good player- and with our style and coaching he will help improve the squad.
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Proving fitness would be the most important thing - Seem's like forever ago that he played consistently.
The Kraken Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 If he is fit and injury free it would be a great move. Cue plenty on here saying "no way, he's not good enough, we should be aiming higher". Ability-wise, Jenas is superior to anything we have at the moment. But there's obviously a major doubt about his fitness.
shirleysfc Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Wasn't he getting back to his best before an achilles injury on loan at Villa??
Mr Saints Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Have heard we're in talks to sign Jermaine Jenas from Spurs. Loan initially to prove fitness, with a permanent deal to follow. Thoughts? Heard from who?
VectisSaint Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 NO NO and thrice NO Not good enough for Saints? You must be joking, a fit Jenas would be a very good addition. I just have my doubts that Spuds would be letting him go before they appoint a new manager who might want to run the rule over all of his players first.
MarkSFC Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 IF we are going to take a formerly good but been injured ex-international mid-fielder would far prefer Hargreaves.
PhilippineSaint Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Completely disagree, I've never rated him even fully fit. Another high energy player disguising lack of technique and composure with running around a lot. Headless chicken syndrome
S-Clarke Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Never rated the guy, I think he's bog standard average on the back of a long-term serious injury. Would be prepared to see how he does on a loan though.
The Kraken Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Completely disagree, I've never rated him even fully fit. Another high energy player disguising lack of technique and composure with running around a lot. Fine, but I disagree with your assessment of him, he's not amazing but he's better than you give him credit for IMO. Plus he has a decent record for scoring goals, which would be an addition. I think it could be a non-starter because of the fitness issue anyway, he only played 3 times last season (sub as 2 then properly injured in his only start of the season).
Turkish Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Completely disagree, I've never rated him even fully fit. Another high energy player disguising lack of technique and composure with running around a lot. He'll be a crowd hero within hours then. * clears throat and shouts Jeeeeeeeeeermainnnnneeeeeeeeee!!*
Window Cleaner Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Headless chicken syndrome Although when paired with HCAD (headless chicken appreciation disorder) that makes a "good player" doesn't it ?
PhilippineSaint Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Although when paired with HCAD (headless chicken appreciation disorder) that makes a "good player" doesn't it ? Well if you look at it like that we have potential player of the season get him on the bus
Hopkins Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Yes please! A class act when at his best IMO. Very under valued because of the English mentality. Loan is the best option because of his fitness though.
Lighthouse Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Fine, but I disagree with your assessment of him, he's not amazing but he's better than you give him credit for IMO. Plus he has a decent record for scoring goals, which would be an addition. He last scored in 2009.
shirleysfc Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Completely disagree, I've never rated him even fully fit. Another high energy player disguising lack of technique and composure with running around a lot. He's also played for England at every level from U16 to full team (21 caps) and has played over 260 games in the Premier League. Yep, he's not good enough for us!! I suppose Cork is better??
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Only take him if he's as good as the last Jermaine to grace SMS...
S-Clarke Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Only take him if he's as good as the last Jermaine to grace SMS... Legend
the saint in winchester Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Not good enough for Saints? You must be joking, a fit Jenas would be a very good addition. I just have my doubts that Spuds would be letting him go before they appoint a new manager who might want to run the rule over all of his players first. If Spurs really are appointing AVB, a few may be shuffling toward the exit door ....
Crab Lungs Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 (edited) Completely disagree, I've never rated him even fully fit. Another high energy player disguising lack of technique and composure with running around a lot. This. I think I've seen enough to be fearful of this deal. Awful midfielder, but great if you like mistimed, inaccurate passes, woeful tackling and groaning/sighing a lot as a move breaks down. Schneiderlin has more grace and technique in just a single toe. He's a very, very sh1t Carlton Palmer IMO. However (!), if true, let's give him a chance. Edited 1 July, 2012 by Crab Lungs
the saint in winchester Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Only take him if he's as good as the last Jermaine to grace SMS... This would be Jermaine Wright? I don't think Jermaine Jackson has ever graced SMS, has he?
Window Cleaner Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 If Spurs really are appointing AVB, .... but then again why would they do that? unless of course he's paying them some of his Abramovich silly money handout to get the job !! Anyway they're trying to get Blanc.....something that they'd eventually regret.
Crazy Diamond Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Friend of mine is the former Spurs press officer. His opinion of Jermaine Jenas, and I quote; "Everyone says he's an athlete. If he's such an athlete he can go and do the ****ing long jump" He's not much cop, basically. Hard to say that about someone with England caps and a decent record of top flight appearances, I realise.
Lighthouse Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 but then again why would they do that? unless of course he's paying them some of his Abramovich silly money handout to get the job !! Anyway they're trying to get Blanc.....something that they'd eventually regret. I actually think AVB would be a decent manager for a team, it just didn't work out at Chelsea. They have an ageing squad full of big wage packets and egos. He had to deal with £50m Torres not hitting a barn door and the pressure of a boss who wants immediate results. Given time, reasonable funds to build his own team and the full backing of the fans and board, he CDAJF someone.
ottery st mary Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 (edited) Will he ever be fit enough to get into the mix with our dynamic world class midfield of Deano , Corky and Morgan:rolleyes: It is over to you Uncle Nigel... Even if Jermaine can not walk ...we could do a player exchange , sending our Tommy back to his spiritual home.. Edited 1 July, 2012 by ottery st mary
Window Cleaner Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 I actually think AVB would be a decent manager for a team, it just didn't work out at Chelsea. They have an ageing squad full of big wage packets and egos. He had to deal with £50m Torres not hitting a barn door and the pressure of a boss who wants immediate results. Given time, reasonable funds to build his own team and the full backing of the fans and board, he CDAJF someone. Won't ever do n effective job for an English side,can't handle players correctly, Di Matteo could though and got the required results.
Lighthouse Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Won't ever do n effective job for an English side,can't handle players correctly, Di Matteo could though and got the required results. He couldn't handle Terry, Cashley, Drogba, Torres and Anelka correctly. Doesn't mean he couldn't do a decent job elsewhere.
Thedelldays Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 to be fair, chelsea have spat out better managers than AvB. even Avram was a penalty kick away from being a chelsea legend....ooooh errrr
The Kraken Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Won't ever do n effective job for an English side,can't handle players correctly, Di Matteo could though and got the required results. Di Matteo "handled" the senior players by playing them. AVB had a brief to rejuvenate an ageing side; Lampard's reaction to getting dropped undermined the manager's authority, AVB also made some mistakes, but it all meant that he wasn't backed by the club against the players' revolt and therefore was never going to be able to effectively implement the changes that needed to be made. Chelsea will struggle this year IMO; Lampard is another year older, Drogba has left, Torres' confidence must be floor level after this summer and an old team has gotten another year older. If Rodgers gets it right in the transfer market Liverpool should be hitting the top 4, Spurs should be in and around it too, I can see Chelsea being way off the pace by Christmas.
saintmatt Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Won't ever do n effective job for an English side,can't handle players correctly, Di Matteo could though and got the required results. It seemed AVB's remit was to overhaul the squad with the long-term in mind, whereas RDM was allowed to do the best for the short-term - two very different objectives. With RDM now charged with achieving the former, I reckon he'll be gone by Christmas.
LeBenali Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Friend of mine is the former Spurs press officer. His opinion of Jermaine Jenas, and I quote; "Everyone says he's an athlete. If he's such an athlete he can go and do the ****ing long jump" He's not much cop, basically. Hard to say that about someone with England caps and a decent record of top flight appearances, I realise. To be fair, that evaluation is from the supporter of a team who were aiming for Champions League qualification last year. Lets be honest, our aim this season is just to stay in the league, and anything else will be a bonus.
rshephard3 Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 It seemed AVB's remit was to overhaul the squad with the long-term in mind, whereas RDM was allowed to do the best for the short-term - two very different objectives. With RDM now charged with achieving the former, I reckon he'll be gone by Christmas. Long term in mind and Abramovic don't go hand in hand though do they? AVB knew that when he took over and still knew that when he got sacked. His results were truly woeful and in football, as in life, you cannot disregard quality in the present for hypothetical goals in the future. It will bite you on the behind.
Under Weststand Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Really don't rate Jenas never have done. Over rated player, if we are going to take a player on these terms I'd rather go for Hargreves.
CanadaSaint Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Now I'm starting to get a little worried. We splash out seven mill on yet another striker and we're scratching around in the bargain bin for one of the most critical upgrades we need. I've never rated Jenas and I don't think he'd add anything at all. I, too, would prefer Hargreaves but this isn't a position we can afford to fill with unreliability.
VectisSaint Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Friend of mine is the former Spurs press officer. His opinion of Jermaine Jenas, and I quote; "Everyone says he's an athlete. If he's such an athlete he can go and do the ****ing long jump" He's not much cop, basically. Hard to say that about someone with England caps and a decent record of top flight appearances, I realise. Fortunately players are picked by football coaches and managers, rather then press officers, who with all due respect may be about as knowledgeable about football as Redknapp (Louise)
stthrobber Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 To be fair when he was Jermaine Jeanas I thought he was decent, but when he changed his name to Jennas he was never as good. I think he would actually be a good signing. I was extremely underwhelmed when we signed Rickie Lambert because he was a journeyman striker with a patchy history in lower league football but a powerful shot. With the right coaching and fitness on top of a proper diet, he's turned into a phenomenal signing. Jenas could be likewise, but that assume that the story is true in the first place. It would imo show ambition because he's the type of name we wouldn't have been associated with under previous regimes
sammysaint Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Quality player when fit, 2006-2009, he was quality for NUFC and 1st season at spurs, loan deal = a good deal, allows us to loan out people like JWP to league one get some experience and means we can have a good number of CMs incase of injury.
saint_disco123 Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 you know how about you wait till you see him play and then judge him? I think he would be a good signing and with the training we can give him he can get back to full fittness and get the best out of his ability!
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 Source for this rumour? Or is it literally, "my mate said we want jenas". Any substance?
JPTCount Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 never rated him, amazed he lasted so long at spurs. he's an average player with no real quality so he's ended up as a cm.
pressingon Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 He's also played for England at every level from U16 to full team (21 caps) and has played over 260 games in the Premier League. Yep, he's not good enough for us!! I suppose Cork is better?? Titus Bramble is an England International U21 with over 200 premiership games, I wouldn't want him here either.
Clifford Nelson Posted 1 July, 2012 Posted 1 July, 2012 If there is any truth in this, which I doubt, could it have something to do with us sending Falque back with an "oh my God!" rather than signing him for good which Spurs hoped for, and if the truth be told we might had led them to believe. We've had Forecast from them, then they tried with Falque, and now it's Jenas. What's the connection with Spurs?
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