Dr. Kucho Posted 24 July, 2012 Author Share Posted 24 July, 2012 The reason that the deal didn't go ahead is down to Buttner. After agreeing a deal with us and only a medical away Buttner decided it was a good idea to talk to some other clubs to see if he could get a better deal. After we found this out, and that other clubs would pay him more and also have to pay Vitesse less for Buttner, the board decided they wanted to renegotiate the transfer sum with Vitesse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 24 July, 2012 Share Posted 24 July, 2012 The reason that the deal didn't go ahead is down to Buttner. After agreeing a deal with us and only a medical away Buttner decided it was a good idea to talk to some other clubs to see if he could get a better deal. After we found this out, and that other clubs would pay him more and also have to pay Vitesse less for Buttner, the board decided they wanted to renegotiate the transfer sum with Vitesse. Thanks, I'm interested how you know this? Are you ITK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 24 July, 2012 Share Posted 24 July, 2012 (edited) I'm a guy from the netherlands, who only made this account to fill you i about eredivisie players/ dutch players. Buttner is not a favorite footballer of mine, why? Because he doesn't know how to defend. At all. The only thing he can do well is shooting, aiming, atting, crossing. that can be pretty good if the rest of your defenders are good enough. Are they? I know you guys have "enough" money. I don't know if buttner is officially bought yet? Because if you really want a left back, i would say Pieters, because he can do wat buttner can (is 2/3 years older though) AND can defend, he can also play as a CB. That would be a better option i think, he would cost about 5 million euros. Pieters was linked with Newcastle. I think its unlikely we could prise him away. PSV, can you recommend a good centre back ? A couple have been mentioned on here, Vlaar - although he might be going to Villa ,and Gouweleeuw . I was hoping we might bring a Dutch goalkeeper in as you seem to produce some good ones, but think we've got that covered. Thanks for your comments and insight regarding both Lens & Buttner by the way, Edited 24 July, 2012 by Badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 July, 2012 Share Posted 24 July, 2012 Pieters was linked with Newcastle. I think its unlikely we could prise him away. PSV, can you recommend a good centre back ? A couple have been mentioned on here, Vlaar - although he might be going to Villa ,and Gouweleeuw . I was hoping we might bring a Dutch goalkeeper in as you seem to produce some good ones, but think we've got that covered. Thanks for your comments and insight regarding both Lens & Buttner by the way, * starts frantically clapping as quickly as possible and singing "ging gang gouweleeuw, ging gang goo, ging gang goo"* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 24 July, 2012 Share Posted 24 July, 2012 * starts frantically clapping as quickly as possible and singing "ging gang gouweleeuw, ging gang goo, ging gang goo"* Why wait ? We already have Guly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 24 July, 2012 Share Posted 24 July, 2012 The reason that the deal didn't go ahead is down to Buttner. After agreeing a deal with us and only a medical away Buttner decided it was a good idea to talk to some other clubs to see if he could get a better deal. After we found this out, and that other clubs would pay him more and also have to pay Vitesse less for Buttner, the board decided they wanted to renegotiate the transfer sum with Vitesse. I find it a bit odd that having got a better financial offer from Southampton, Vitesse would accept offers from people offering less. When we renegotiated our offer, did we go in at the same level as the other clubs or lower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 24 July, 2012 Author Share Posted 24 July, 2012 Thanks, I'm interested how you know this? Are you ITK? A mate of mine knows a few players from Vitesse and NEC Nijmegen, he also knows Buttners brother. And Badger, if you want some good CB in the Eredivisie look no further than Niklas Moisander and Nick Viergever from AZ Alkmaar. Vlaar is a good CB but slow and has had 2 serious knee injuries, Gouweleeuw is young and talented but has little experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 24 July, 2012 Share Posted 24 July, 2012 A mate of mine knows a few players from Vitesse and NEC Nijmegen, he also knows Buttners brother. And Badger, if you want some good CB in the Eredivisie look no further than Niklas Moisander and Nick Viergever from AZ Alkmaar. Vlaar is a good CB but slow and has had 2 serious knee injuries, Gouweleeuw is young and talented but has little experience. Might fit our criteria and model then, given our signing of Gazziniga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 July, 2012 Share Posted 25 July, 2012 http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2885/europe/2012/07/25/3265477/agent-of-southampton-target-buttner-blasts-ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 July, 2012 Share Posted 25 July, 2012 Were Vitesse relegated then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 25 July, 2012 Share Posted 25 July, 2012 The lad's agent, Alexander Ballsac or w/e doesn't seem to have his finger on the pulse. He doesn't even know which division his client's club plays in. They qualified finished 7th and got into the EL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 25 July, 2012 Share Posted 25 July, 2012 Seems to be a lot of mis-information coming out of all camps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 25 July, 2012 Share Posted 25 July, 2012 http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2885/europe/2012/07/25/3265477/agent-of-southampton-target-buttner-blasts-ridiculous Lols is dat you making the first comment MLG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 25 July, 2012 Share Posted 25 July, 2012 The lad's agent, Alexander Ballsac or w/e doesn't seem to have his finger on the pulse. He doesn't even know which division his client's club plays in. They qualified finished 7th and got into the EL.Maybe it's a mis-translation and they're relegating him to the ressies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 25 July, 2012 Share Posted 25 July, 2012 On the other hand it's goal.com, so there's no telling if the words attributed to his agent are actually his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made in Southampton Posted 25 July, 2012 Share Posted 25 July, 2012 Also says he's a midfielder ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 July, 2012 Share Posted 25 July, 2012 Any chance of letting this one go? He obviously isn't joining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 25 July, 2012 Share Posted 25 July, 2012 If he hasnt signed by Sunday i will lock this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 Am told that Martin Olsson is an alternative to Buttner. Early stages at the moment, but interest is there. Worth mentioning that this has come from the same person who told me that Buttner had signed, so don't get too worked up over it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 Am told that Martin Olsson is an alternative to Buttner. Early stages at the moment, but interest is there. Worth mentioning that this has come from the same person who told me that Buttner had signed, so don't get too worked up over it! Would be a good signing if true, always rated him. Strong runner with the ball down the left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 Extremely pacy. Good talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 Is teletext re buttner on the bbc upto date or is that old news as it is now suggesting the deal will soon be sealed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 Some recent Dutch tweets about him: (translated) "Alexander "My family also want to reap a few tons" Buttner is also present. Laughable." "Van Leeuwen: 'Transfer Büttner was around, but glanced off by Alexander himself' http://goo.gl/fb/P4Wga http://bit.ly/voetbalT" "Van Leeuwen also clear story about # Buttner. He wants to leave, Van Aanholt is attracted and they try to prevent unrest in 1st team #vitlok" "Haha Buttner sitting there on the stand with a friend of my brother. "He's got to have his sentence" #commentator haha" We may look back on missing out on this one fondly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 July, 2012 Share Posted 26 July, 2012 So you expect that we will be looking to sign another LB then? I don't so let's see So we shall. Still being linked with LB's though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benali-shorts Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Buttner deal going ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Buttner deal going ahead. Go on.... How do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Sound pretty certain...interesting. Especially on the day which it sounds like Harding is joining Forest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Buttner deal going ahead. Surely not now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 If he hasnt signed by Sunday i will lock this thread Buttner deal going ahead. He has till cob Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 (edited) Considering both him and his agent said the other day that their options were very much open again and were looking elsewhere I would be extremely surprised if this one now went through. Edited 27 July, 2012 by itchen_dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Very doubtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benali-shorts Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Finances agreed today, with all parties. not sure it will beat Glasgow's sunday deadline, but that will only be at our discretion if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Finances agreed today, with all parties. not sure it will beat Glasgow's sunday deadline, but that will only be at our discretion if so. Interesting. Where have you heard this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Finances agreed today, with all parties. not sure it will beat Glasgow's sunday deadline, but that will only be at our discretion if so. You realise your place in the ITK Hall of Fame rests on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Is this now longer than the Jack Cork thread from last summer.....or the Rudi Skacel one from a few years back ? It feels like this had been running longer than Corrie !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benali-shorts Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 from the dutch side of the talks, hence don't know when we will conclude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Is this now longer than the Jack Cork thread from last summer.....or the Rudi Skacel one from a few years back ? It feels like this had been running longer than Corrie !! No, the Skacel thread, which included another player as well whose name escapes me, was about 4 volumes of 20 page threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 from the dutch side of the talks, hence don't know when we will conclude. I don't doubt you have heard something official but i still won't believe it until I see it. If he signs I hope he doesn't end up being a disappointment, like Skacel all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Wtf has skacel got to do with buttner? Skacel was hyped but played out of position for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Wtf has skacel got to do with buttner? Skacel was hyped but played out of position for ages. Tell me more!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Just the hype surrounding him and the length of the thread before the player has signed is of similar size. nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 benali-shorts... It's sh*t or bust... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 28 July, 2012 Share Posted 28 July, 2012 With Harding gone or all but gone, where there any whispers around the ground about Buttner or anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 28 July, 2012 Share Posted 28 July, 2012 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 28 July, 2012 Share Posted 28 July, 2012 No. That clears that up then. Must mean all our business is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Any news , Benali-shorts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibMcdo Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 He'll sign this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 He'll sign this week. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Source? Have you ever known anyone really in the know to reveal a source? If they did they soon would be "not in the know". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Have you ever known anyone really in the know to reveal a source? If they did they soon would be "not in the know". Absolutely, still credit for keeping this thread going I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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