Saint Charlie Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Buttner playing a pre season game for Vitesse today it would seem. Bit odd, maybe a farewell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 He just missed a pen! Good farewell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Buttner playing a pre season game for Vitesse today it would seem. Bit odd, maybe a farewell. Well that's weird! Hopefully we should hear more post-match though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Keeping his match fitness levels up for us, good lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 (edited) While we're at it, we should look at Bony from Vitesse as well. Class player but probably out of our range. Edited 7 July, 2012 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint George Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Why are we discussing QPR's possible (and probably never to come to pass) new stadium, on the main board? Because the mods have given up so much ground to the resident Trolls, they've lost all control of this forum and are now just hiding in their holes like frightened rabbits...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Hmm. I have been called a Troll when I am in fact a Dalek ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Diagonally out from the keeper, on the right hand side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Because the mods have given up so much ground to the resident Trolls, they've lost all control of this forum and are now just hiding in their holes like frightened rabbits...... The Mods are currently in pre-season mode. We are working on our fitness preparing for the long campaign ahead To be honest discussing QPR is significantly more interesting than some of the 'banter' that has gone on over the past few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 But posters make a good point, please keep this to the topic of Alex Buttner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Any explanation as to why he's playing today if he's just about to sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 (edited) This was just released on a Dutch site: (Google translation) Alexander Büttner'm not sure if the exhibition game on Saturday with the Batavians (6-0) will be the last for him in the shirt of Vitesse. The Arnhem club recently reached an agreement with Southampton about a transfer of the winger, but there is no question of a personal contract with the club in the English Premier League. "At the moment this is not my last game for Vitesse. The clubs are out, only I did not. My agent loves to deal with that, and until then I'm still just in Arnhem," said the winger on the official website of the Arnhem club. Büttner missed the game against the amateur a penalty. The defender played 45 minutes after the break and was replaced by Anderson I guess this means that he hasn't yet agreed personal terms? Edited 7 July, 2012 by Golac's Cunning Stunts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 This was just released on a Dutch site: (Google translation) Alexander Büttner'm not sure if the exhibition game on Saturday with the Batavians (6-0) will be the last for him in the shirt of Vitesse. The Arnhem club recently reached an agreement with Southampton about a transfer of the winger, but there is no question of a personal contract with the club in the English Premier League. "At the moment this is not my last game for Vitesse. The clubs are out, only I did not. My agent loves to deal with that, and until then I'm still just in Arnhem," said the winger on the official website of the Arnhem club. Büttner missed the game against the amateur a penalty. The defender played 45 minutes after the break and was replaced by Anderson I guess this means that he hasn't yet agreed personal terms? translates for me as Alexander Büttner'm not sure if the exhibition game on Saturday with the Batavians (6-0) will be the last for him in the shirt of Vitesse. The Arnhem club recently reached an agreement with Southampton about a transfer of the winger, but there is no question of a personal contract with the club in the English Premier League. "At the moment this is not my last game for Vitesse. The clubs are agreed, only I have not. My agent loves to deal with that, and until then I'm still just in Arnhem," said the winger on the official website of the Arnhem club. Büttner missed a penalty in the game against the amateurs. The defender played 45 minutes, after the break he was replaced by Anderson Still looks promising then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 is he a winger or a defender.? is he going to be our RM...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 translates for me as Alexander Büttner'm not sure if the exhibition game on Saturday with the Batavians (6-0) will be the last for him in the shirt of Vitesse. The Arnhem club recently reached an agreement with Southampton about a transfer of the winger, but there is no question of a personal contract with the club in the English Premier League. "At the moment this is not my last game for Vitesse. The clubs are agreed, only I have not. My agent loves to deal with that, and until then I'm still just in Arnhem," said the winger on the official website of the Arnhem club. Büttner missed a penalty in the game against the amateurs. The defender played 45 minutes, after the break he was replaced by Anderson Still looks promising then! We've only agreed a fee with Vitesse, the personal terms and medical etc. have yet to be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 merge QPR with Millwall and it could be White City merged with Elephant and Castle Which would make them the White Elephants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 is he a winger or a defender.? is he going to be our RM...? Or stick him on the left handside of the diamond where Lallana might be bit of a liability, leaving him to play in the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Which would make them the White Elephants! Thats right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockhill Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 it must be true its inthe sun http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4414541/Alexander-Buttner-signs-for-Southampton.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 it must be true its inthe sun http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4414541/Alexander-Buttner-signs-for-Southampton.html Interesting comment on there from 'AjaxAmsterdam020': "He's actually one of the best leftbacks in the Eredivisie. But we have to wait if he can handle the level in England. He only plays one year on the highest level in the Dutch League. Its a triggy choice." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 We should look at Bony from Vitesse as well. Class player but probably out of our range. Sounds hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Back to Buttner, I don't quite understand why he would be playing in a friendly if we'd agreed terms. Surely we wouldn't want him risking injury, even if it was against a non-league side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 8 July, 2012 Share Posted 8 July, 2012 Sounds hungry. Starving, in fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 Any news on whether Mr Buttner has travelled over yet, after his appearance for Vitesse at the weekend? Hopefully this is one we can wrap up quite quickly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 Any news on whether Mr Buttner has travelled over yet' date=' after his appearance for Vitesse at the weekend? Hopefully this is one we can wrap up quite quickly now.[/quote'] Seems like his agent is still negotiating a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 Seems like his agent is still negotiating a deal. Tell his agent buy a ticket and get on the bus or vacate his place in the queue to the others that want to get on the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 The latest news concerning the transfer was a short interview after a pre-season friendly with Vitesse this weekend. The only thing he said there was that Vitesse and Saints have agreed on a fee and that his agent was negotiating with Saints. We'll just have to wait and see, everyone seems to be tight-lipped on the negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 The latest news concerning the transfer was a short interview after a pre-season friendly with Vitesse this weekend. The only thing he said there was that Vitesse and Saints have agreed on a fee and that his agent was negotiating with Saints. We'll just have to wait and see, everyone seems to be tight-lipped on the negotiations. Surely one of those that becomes more unlikely the longer it goes. In theory it seemed an easy deal after he came to look round and wanted to come here (surely some sort of financials were discussed). Now, all of a sudden the clubs are aligned but not him. A bit strange but I guess transfers these days are never simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 I thought the last real news was that the clubs had agreed a deal and then he would come to Saints for a medical sometime this week before signing, no?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 I always thought early reports of him signing were strange. I think it was a case of him being aware we had made an approach and he was excited by it. Then we had to agree a fee with his club and then negotiate terms (which we appear to be doing now) and then a medical. I still expect this to materialise before the end of the week or it will be dead in the water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 I can only presume that we weren't allowed to enter personal terms until the two clubs agreed a fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 I can only presume that we weren't allowed to enter personal terms until the two clubs agreed a fee. Considering he was allowed to visit here, QPR and Fulham and described everything here as 'perfect' before a deal was agreed with Vitesse I'd imagine he will have a very good idea of what deal is on on the table. He is due to have a medical this week isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 Considering he was allowed to visit here, QPR and Fulham and described everything here as 'perfect' before a deal was agreed with Vitesse I'd imagine he will have a very good idea of what deal is on on the table. He is due to have a medical this week isn't he? Well yes, I'm sure the club talked the basics of a deal with him and his agent, but they wouldn't want to go too forward with it. 'Tapping up' and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 Well yes, I'm sure the club talked the basics of a deal with him and his agent, but they wouldn't want to go too forward with it. 'Tapping up' and all that. It wasn't tapping up though. His club gave him permission to visit us, QPR and Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 I wonder now if QPR become all amazing if we don't agree a fee etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 It's on Vitesse site http://www.vitesse.nl/nieuws/bericht/vitesse-en-southampton-akkoord-over-ba-ttner/2721 I'd imagine seeing that he played in a friendly on Saturday & having already agreed to join us that its just a case of him coming over here having a medical & signing the contract. Pretty much a done deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 It's on Vitesse site http://www.vitesse.nl/nieuws/bericht/vitesse-en-southampton-akkoord-over-ba-ttner/2721 I'd imagine seeing that he played in a friendly on Saturday & having already agreed to join us that its just a case of him coming over here having a medical & signing the contract. Pretty much a done deal Why does written Dutch look like English written by a dyslexic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercherry Saint Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 His agent is Alexander Bursac. Does anyone know much about him? I'm guessing now Saints and Vitesse have agreed a price, Mr Bursac is probably trying to broker a last minute deal with QPR or Werder Bremen to try and make Saints offer a better contract?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 July, 2012 Share Posted 10 July, 2012 His agent is Alexander Bursac. Does anyone know much about him? I'm guessing now Saints and Vitesse have agreed a price, Mr Bursac is probably trying to broker a last minute deal with QPR or Werder Bremen to try and make Saints offer a better contract?? Deal quite possibly off. http://drimble.nl/voetbal/eredivisie/vitesse/9886218/vitesse-komt-met-verrassend-nieuws-over-buttner-we-zijn-teleurgesteld.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 10 July, 2012 Share Posted 10 July, 2012 Deal quite possibly off. http://drimble.nl/voetbal/eredivisie/vitesse/9886218/vitesse-komt-met-verrassend-nieuws-over-buttner-we-zijn-teleurgesteld.html OK hang on, just let me get my Dutch phrase book out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 10 July, 2012 Share Posted 10 July, 2012 They have just done this on twitter as well, what the ##@# is the point in printing a dutch report without a translation! Could be saying anything at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 10 July, 2012 Share Posted 10 July, 2012 The transfer from Southampton to Alexander Büttner seems not to continue, says Vitesse Tuesday through official channels. Last Friday, the club from Arnhem to an agreement with the Premier League Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 10 July, 2012 Share Posted 10 July, 2012 The transfer from Southampton to Alexander Büttner seems not to continue, says Vitesse Tuesday through official channels. Last Friday, the club from Arnhem to an agreement with the Premier League club on the transition from Büttner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 10 July, 2012 Share Posted 10 July, 2012 Sorry , too slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 10 July, 2012 Share Posted 10 July, 2012 So all this fuzz for nothing... I hate silly season : / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There when Franny scored Posted 10 July, 2012 Share Posted 10 July, 2012 This is what it says on the Vitesse site. Seems to be something to do with a third party, third party ownership perhaps? "The transfer of Alexander Büttner to Southampton FC is uncertain. Last Friday Vitesse came to an agreement with the Premier League club on the transition from Büttner. Because Büttner already had reached agreement over personal terms, it seemed nothing in the way of a transfer position, except a medical examination. Over the weekend, however, let the player through his agent know that there is an additional requirement of a third party was Vitesse direction. Vitesse is the player that they do not want to meet this requirement, as was subsequently done and Vitesse refuses to put under pressure. Vitesse is disappointed about the state of affairs, especially since at the express request of the player that has been negotiated with Southampton. The club Southampton FC has been drawn up correctly and take no blame for undermining the transfer. Vitesse also has done everything for the transfer to go through." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 10 July, 2012 Share Posted 10 July, 2012 Sounds like a Tevez clause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 10 July, 2012 Share Posted 10 July, 2012 Oh dear, someone didn't do their homework on the contractual side of this then and we've lost time. Or perhaps this is just a cover story - perhaps Cortese got cold feet because the player released the news to the press that he was a Southampton player before he actually was? Anyway, can't see why a third party would get in the way of the move unless they wanted stupid money to go away - can't see Cortese being held to ransom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 July, 2012 Share Posted 10 July, 2012 As I said a few days back, this started to scream of amar jemal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 July, 2012 Share Posted 10 July, 2012 Or perhaps this is just a cover story - perhaps Cortese got cold feet because the player released the news to the press that he was a Southampton player before he actually was? When did Buttner say he was a Southampton player? All I've seen him say is that he was impressed with what he was shown and told about the club's ambitions. Plus, even if he did say it - why would that mean Cortese stopped the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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