Wimbledon

[Thedelldays]

its that time again

 

The general Wimbledon spectator is generally the saddest in sport

HTH

[Micky]

Whose playing for us this year - is it Andy Murray again. Have we got any female tennis players. Do we have any chance of winning it?

[Thedelldays]

Whose playing for us this year - is it Andy Murray again. Have we got any female tennis players. Do we have any chance of winning it?

all the females (UK wise) are virtually out.......in day 2

[Bearsy]

I usually pop down with my mate one day in the first week to try and score on the posh girls, it's not a bad day out if it's sunny even if you ain't got tickets for the show courts there's plenty of stuff to do, at least in the first week, after that it's all sh!tty doubles and juniors on the outside courts. I ain't going unless the weather hots up a bit tho!

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all the females (UK wise) are virtually out.......in day 2

 

Two of the five UK women are still in the competition.

 

Three of the five UK men are still in the competition.

[Micky]

all the females (UK wise) are virtually out.......in day 2

 

Ohhh right - used to follow tennis big time in the days of connors, borge and chrissie and all that - but sort of lost interest. Its one of those tournaments when if you see english success in your lifetime you could probably say that you have witnessed a true historic occassion - a bit like a man standing on the moon.

[Micky]

Two of the five UK women are still in the competition.

 

Three of the five UK men are still in the competition.

 

On day two - that doesnt sound too good to me...! Take it we have no stars then.

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On day two - that doesnt sound too good to me...! Take it we have no stars then.

 

No. 4 male in the world is in action right now. A bit of a star I think.

[Micky]

No. 4 male in the world is in action right now. A bit of a star I think.

 

Unfortunately Im in Germany at the moment so cant watch - does No 4 male have a name....??????

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Unfortunately Im in Germany at the moment so cant watch - does No 4 male have a name....??????

 

LOL! Andy Murray and he's broken his opponent's serve already - he's playing Davydenko who until a couple of years ago was world no. 3

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Two more UK players through and Murray is absolutely demolishing Davydenko

[Doctoroncall]

Two more UK players through and Murray is absolutely demolishing Davydenko

 

He'll still lose in the semis.

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He'll still lose in the semis.

 

As his ranking would suggest

[hypochondriac]

As his ranking would suggest

 

Andy Murray is a loser.

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Andy Murray is a loser.

 

As are many people when they face up to someone who is ranked higher than they are.

[Micky]

Isnt Andy Murray a scot, do we have any Englishmen in it, wasnt the last english guy a canadian really. What happened to Tim. Is henman hill still there or is it now murray mound...????

[jawillwill]

Andy Murray is by far one of the best Sportsmen the UK has at the moment (in a "big sport"). If as a nation we could comfortably say we had the 4th best footballer in the world, the media would be jizzing themselves. He's achieved more than any British player in the past 100 years or so.

 

In the women's game, having watched them both for a few years now I'm fairly confident that Heather Watson and Laura robson both have the potential to be top 10 players in the coming years.

[LGTL]

I've men semi-final tickets, looking forward to it.

[hypochondriac]

Andy Murray is by far one of the best Sportsmen the UK has at the moment (in a "big sport"). If as a nation we could comfortably say we had the 4th best footballer in the world, the media would be jizzing themselves. He's achieved more than any British player in the past 100 years or so.

 

In the women's game, having watched them both for a few years now I'm fairly confident that Heather Watson and Laura robson both have the potential to be top 10 players in the coming years.

 

Erm no he hasn't. Fred Perry achieved loads more. He actually won something for a start.

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Erm no he hasn't. Fred Perry achieved loads more. He actually won something for a start.

 

He did say 'at the moment'. AFAIK Fred Perry is no longer with us. And when he was, it was an amateur game where money didn't matter and only gentlemen played.

 

It's a whole different ball game now.

[latter day saint]

He did say 'at the moment'. AFAIK Fred Perry is no longer with us.

i think you will find he lives on his rather nice polo shirts

think Murray would be better thought off if he didnt come across as a right grumpy cock

[hypochondriac]

i think you will find he lives on his rather nice polo shirts

think Murray would be better thought off if he didnt come across as a right grumpy cock

 

Yep. And if his tactics were less boring and defensive.

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Yep. And if his tactics were less boring and defensive.

 

Shame you didn't watch this afternoon's match then. He was far from defensive and absolutely wiped the floor with Davydenko who has been in the world top ten for the past 7 years or so and a Grand Slam semi-finalist on a number of occasions. Murray beat him 1, 1 and 2.

 

Of course clay and hard court play tends to be more defensive than grass but his tactics and mindgames with his opponent were breathtaking today.

[Thedelldays]

Shame you didn't watch this afternoon's match then. He was far from defensive and absolutely wiped the floor with Davydenko who has been in the world top ten for the past 7 years or so and a Grand Slam semi-finalist on a number of occasions. Murray beat him 1, 1 and 2.

 

Of course clay and hard court play tends to be more defensive than grass but his tactics and mindgames with his opponent were breathtaking today.

so it should be......being first round etc

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so it should be......being first round etc

 

Jamie in not reading / failing to understand tennis and the ability of Murray's first round opponent shocker

 

Respected commentators were saying that Murray could well fall at this first hurdle - he treated it like the high jump and made this very talented and experienced top 10 player look like a novice.

[Thedelldays]

there is a reason why murray played this bloke in the first round.....the seedings.

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there is a reason why murray played this bloke in the first round.....the seedings.

 

That's not quite right. The seedings are established and then it's a draw to see who plays the seeds.

[Thedelldays]

That's not quite right. The seedings are established and then it's a draw to see who plays the seeds.

serious question. what seed was andy Ms opponent this year?

 

edit...he was not seeded. not in the predicted top 32 in wimbledon. and is no. 47 in the world

you would expect the no4 seed and no4 in the world to dispatch said opponent...anything else would have been a complete shock result

Edited 26 June, 2012 by Thedelldays

[Saintandy666]

Laura Robson had a great go today. 3rd youngest person in the draw. She's one for the future, top 10 definitely. Hits the ball so hard.

 

People need to get over the 'anyone but England' joke Murray made years ago too.

 

Love Wimbledon though. Going again this year, but I do hate how everyone suddenly thinks they are a tennis expert based on watching a couple of matches over 2 weeks once a year. The same people who argue Andy Murray is **** when he is probably the best tennis player to be born in the UK ever.

[Jillyanne]

That's as it may be but Murray is leading on match stats against him. Can you not just support the British players FFS!

[Saintandy666]

serious question. what seed was andy Ms opponent this year?

 

edit...he was not seeded. not in the predicted top 32 in wimbledon. and is no. 47 in the world

you would expect the no4 seed and no4 in the world to dispatch said opponent...anything else would have been a complete shock result

 

Davydenko is ranked 41 in the world if I remember the prematch stuff correctly. Used to be top 5 though and a fairly steady opponent. A big test for Murray in the first round and I was a bit worried because Murray often starts slow. Came through well though, but he has a very tough draw to come.

[Thedelldays]

Davydenko is ranked 41 in the world if I remember the prematch stuff correctly. Used to be top 5 though and a fairly steady opponent. A big test for Murray in the first round and I was a bit worried because Murray often starts slow. Came through well though, but he has a very tough draw to come.

he is no 47....check the ATP site if you don't believe me

[Saintandy666]

he is no 47....check the ATP site if you don't believe me

 

I trust you. It is still one of the hardest draws he could have had. The guy won the ATP tour championships only 3 years ago and was a top 5 player. But Murray dealt with it excellently.

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serious question. what seed was andy Ms opponent this year?

 

edit...he was not seeded. not in the predicted top 32 in wimbledon. and is no. 47 in the world

you would expect the no4 seed and no4 in the world to dispatch said opponent...anything else would have been a complete shock result

 

Absolutely right. However, look here:

 

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Nikolay-Davydenko.aspx

 

And you will see that 2010 was the first year he'd been outside the top 10. From memory, I think that may have been because of the distraction of the claims that he'd been involved in a betting scam (he was cleared).

 

The way that seedings work is that top 16 are expected to beat lesser ranked players and then start to meet each other in the later stages of the competition.

 

So, with respect, the fact that he's ranked 47 this year is a bit of a red herring. Just take a moment to read just what he's achieved over the past 5 years. He was no pushover

[Thedelldays]

oh good...if this russian was so good and andy brushed past him...we should expect a smooth path to the semi's (where he will lose)

[Saintandy666]

I don't understand why people are so keen to paint Andy Murray as a rubbish player.

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oh good...if this russian was so good and andy brushed past him...we should expect a smooth path to the semi's (where he will lose)

 

If he was expected to win in a semi final, he would have been ranked no. 1 or 2, wouldn't he?

[Saintandy666]

oh good...if this russian was so good and andy brushed past him...we should expect a smooth path to the semi's (where he will lose)

 

He has been in 3 grand slam finals.

[Thedelldays]

I don't understand why people are so keen to paint Andy Murray as a rubbish player.

im not..quite the opposite..I said he should be expected (given his level of talent) to brush past the worlds no 47 and a wimbledon unseeded player in round 1.....you and BTF are making out how brilliant it was...to win a round 1 tie..

[Saintandy666]

im not..quite the opposite..I said he should be expected (given his level of talent) to brush past the worlds no 47 and a wimbledon unseeded player in round 1.....you and BTF are making out how brilliant it was...to win a round 1 tie..

 

Not at all. Just it was a tougher than normal first round. I think me and BTF are just a little bit protective as all tennis followers are because of the constant and unfair Murray bashing when he has achieved a lot.

[Thedelldays]

Not at all. Just it was a tougher than normal first round. I think me and BTF are just a little bit protective as all tennis followers are because of the constant and unfair Murray bashing when he has achieved a lot.

well, that is our problem...over praising something which is nothing special...I probably believe murry has more ability than you think he has..given how much of an achievement you think it was...where I said it should be expected....and I DO expect him to get to at least the Semi's.....he is that good

[Saintandy666]

well, that is our problem...over praising something which is nothing special...I probably believe murry has more ability than you think he has..given how much of an achievement you think it was...where I said it should be expected....and I DO expect him to get to at least the Semi's.....he is that good

 

Yep, he is a fantastic player.

[Thedelldays]

Yep, he is a fantastic player.

then, winning round one...of all the possible round one opponents should be expected...

[Saintandy666]

then, winning round one...of all the possible round one opponents should be expected...

 

Indeed it should be expected. None of us are saying it wasn't. All that we said is that it was a particularly tough match up for a first round, probably the hardest possible. We are just saying that the way he dealt with it demonstrates his ability.

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You really should ignore Davydenko's low ranking this year, TDD.

 

Players' rankings (not the same as seedings) are very much dependent on the ATP tournaments. If they don't play in those tournaments for whatever reason their rankings suffer.

 

The Williams sisters have both had their rankings slashed in the past because they've been injured and therefore unable to play in ATP tournaments. Maria Sharapova was out of the top 5 in 2007 and 2008 because of shoulder injuries and was ranked 126 in 2009. She was ranked 18 in 2010.

[Thedelldays]

venus williams is very low on the rankings...as indeed, already out.

not really a coincidence

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venus williams is very low on the rankings...as indeed, already out.

not really a coincidence

 

That's right - she has an autoimmune disease disorder and hasn't played much recently.

[Hatch]

2 to 3 years ago I thought Murray was a complete coc8.

But he has won me over, I really want him to be successful now.

 

But as TDD pointed out in the OP, 95% of tennis fans at WImbledon are mentally deranged.

[Jillyanne]

Hatch just because your thing seems to be horses doesn't mean you should 'diss' other sports! Murray may well surprise us? who knows. Did you do well at Royal Ascot btw?

[Jillyanne]

2 to 3 years ago I thought Murray was a complete coc8.

But he has won me over, I really want him to be successful now.

 

But as TDD pointed out in the OP, 95% of tennis fans at WImbledon are mentally deranged.

 

Oh and 95% of racegoers are emblazened with the most strange clothing, tweed, red/yellow/blue trousers and look retarded.