sussexsaint Posted 2 June, 2013 Share Posted 2 June, 2013 Can't believe I missed this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Trek-Enterprise-Season-Blu-ray/dp/B00B4F8KKC/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1370160074&sr=8-14&keywords=Star+Trek+blu Ordered , looking forward to watching it in HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 2 June, 2013 Share Posted 2 June, 2013 Matt Smith is leaving Doctor Who http://www.sfx.co.uk/2013/06/01/matt-smith-is-leaving-doctor-who/ I guess Hollywood was too big a pull to resist for Matt Smith. I think he has been a good Doctor and I would have been happy to see him do another series, I hope they get the casting right for the next Doctor. Get ready for the calls from so called fans for a female Doctor How are the BBC going to keep the franchise going when the next doctor leaves as there is only a certain ammount of regenerations allowed, or will they use the River Song gave up her regenerations to extend the doctors regenerations explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 2 June, 2013 Share Posted 2 June, 2013 There will be ways around the limited regeneration a for sure, with John Hurt being the forgotten doctor doesn't that put us up to the 12 already anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 2 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 2 June, 2013 How are the BBC going to keep the franchise going when the next doctor leaves as there is only a certain ammount of regenerations allowed, or will they use the River Song gave up her regenerations to extend the doctors regenerations explanation. The Master has already been given a new set of regeneration's by the Time Lords. I think it was mentioned in the episode called "Sound of the Drums" during the David Tennant era. Geeky information, I know There will be ways around the limited regeneration a for sure, with John Hurt being the forgotten doctor doesn't that put us up to the 12 already anyway? Yes thats how I see it at the moment. Of course the 50th story could change that perception. IF it does prove to be correct then that would make Smith the 12th and whoever is next the 13th. With that in mind, it would be nice to see the regeneration scene happen a little differently. While Smith is transforming into whoever is next, a split happens and a silhouetted body falls out to the side. And the Valeyard is born Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 12 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 June, 2013 The new superman film "Man Of Steel" is getting pretty good reviews http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22853071 Reviews of Man of Steel, the eagerly anticipated "reboot" of the Superman franchise, have been largely favourable, with some reservations. http://www.sfx.co.uk/2013/06/11/man-of-steel-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 The TNG S3 BluRay rewatch is over. Blimey, what a series. I'm not going to pretend that every episode is brilliant, but so many of them are. This series is pretty much the thing that got me into Trek back in the day. I spent the next two years in and out of Videoteque on Bedford Place, catching up with the rest. If I had to go for a specific point where Trek finally punched through my bonce, it has to be Season 3's season finale, Best of Both Worlds. Clerks fans may be disappointed to learn that this is not a chicks with dicks episode, but in Friends style, The One Where Picard Gets Turned Into a Borg. Trek episodes are always best when they can clearly be defined with Friends-style episode titles. This series has tons of them. Sins of the Father / The one where Worf goes back to Klingon to defend his family honour. Yesterday's Enterprise / The one where Tasha Yar comes back. The Offspring / The One Where Data builds a child. The BluRay treatment is just right. They haven't tried to widescreen it, which wrecked bits of the Babylon 5 DVD. The exterior shots are all re-done. One episode, The Defector, has a pair of Romulan warbirds kiss noses with the Enterprise. Beautiful detail, down to individual windows, lit with such menace. It's awesome. In fact, if you're the sort of nerd who gets off on seeing large starships hove into view, this is virtual ship-porn. The Enterprise has been given a very respectful treatment; as have all the visual effects. Polar opposite of how Lucas approached it in Star Wars, really. He just put more crap on the screen. The Star Trek BluRay treatment is all about recreating the original effects, but making them better, staying ever respectful to the original image. It doesn't feel like anyone is trying to one-up what went before - this is the stuff of curators, not revolutionaries. Full credit to them for that, as the series still stands out as exemplary, exploring themes that a lot of modern TV has left behind and underpinned by some outstanding individual performances. It's widely acknowledged that Patrick Stewart was the best actor on the show, but with the way TNG has entered the world of cultural reference and internet memes, it's easy to forget just how good Stewart was. A fantastic actor, and with all the intergalactic shenanigans that go down on the Enterprise, so much material to challenge him. I'm now at the point I was 21 years ago. I watched the finale last night, and am going to have to wait to see the next one (in full BluRay glory, anyway). Season 4 isn't out until July. Yeah, yeah - I know what happens ("Data. Sleep."), but then I also know that from the beginning of S3 onward, TNG is a pretty superb show. Hopefully DS9 will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 June, 2013 Share Posted 18 June, 2013 TNG was really good. Still really watchable these days really. not a fan of the first season at all mind. only really (for some reason) prefer the later seasons where they get little collars on their uniforms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 June, 2013 Share Posted 19 June, 2013 The TNG S3 BluRay rewatch is over. Blimey, what a series. I'm not going to pretend that every episode is brilliant, but so many of them are. This series is pretty much the thing that got me into Trek back in the day. I spent the next two years in and out of Videoteque on Bedford Place, catching up with the rest. If I had to go for a specific point where Trek finally punched through my bonce, it has to be Season 3's season finale, Best of Both Worlds. Clerks fans may be disappointed to learn that this is not a chicks with dicks episode, but in Friends style, The One Where Picard Gets Turned Into a Borg. Trek episodes are always best when they can clearly be defined with Friends-style episode titles. This series has tons of them. Sins of the Father / The one where Worf goes back to Klingon to defend his family honour. Yesterday's Enterprise / The one where Tasha Yar comes back. The Offspring / The One Where Data builds a child. The BluRay treatment is just right. They haven't tried to widescreen it, which wrecked bits of the Babylon 5 DVD. The exterior shots are all re-done. One episode, The Defector, has a pair of Romulan warbirds kiss noses with the Enterprise. Beautiful detail, down to individual windows, lit with such menace. It's awesome. In fact, if you're the sort of nerd who gets off on seeing large starships hove into view, this is virtual ship-porn. The Enterprise has been given a very respectful treatment; as have all the visual effects. Polar opposite of how Lucas approached it in Star Wars, really. He just put more crap on the screen. The Star Trek BluRay treatment is all about recreating the original effects, but making them better, staying ever respectful to the original image. It doesn't feel like anyone is trying to one-up what went before - this is the stuff of curators, not revolutionaries. Full credit to them for that, as the series still stands out as exemplary, exploring themes that a lot of modern TV has left behind and underpinned by some outstanding individual performances. It's widely acknowledged that Patrick Stewart was the best actor on the show, but with the way TNG has entered the world of cultural reference and internet memes, it's easy to forget just how good Stewart was. A fantastic actor, and with all the intergalactic shenanigans that go down on the Enterprise, so much material to challenge him. I'm now at the point I was 21 years ago. I watched the finale last night, and am going to have to wait to see the next one (in full BluRay glory, anyway). Season 4 isn't out until July. Yeah, yeah - I know what happens ("Data. Sleep."), but then I also know that from the beginning of S3 onward, TNG is a pretty superb show. Hopefully DS9 will follow. I just finished re-watching DS9 on DVD. Still trying to decide how good that series was. I have some sort of nagging "but" in my head. Just started on Stargate Universe, having been seriously turned away from ST to SG about 10 years ago. Stargate Universe was massively panned, but I got it cheap on DVD from Amazon a couple of weeks ago so thought I'd give it a go. 4 episodes so far, and I have to say its fantastic. Grown up Stargate. Robert Carlyle is absolutely superb and has been doing these psychopath/sociopath roles so well, ever since Albie Kinsella alongside Robbie Coltrane in Cracker. Was worth it just for his acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 June, 2013 Share Posted 19 June, 2013 (edited) I just finished re-watching DS9 on DVD. Still trying to decide how good that series was. I have some sort of nagging "but" in my head. Just started on Stargate Universe, having been seriously turned away from ST to SG about 10 years ago. Stargate Universe was massively panned, but I got it cheap on DVD from Amazon a couple of weeks ago so thought I'd give it a go. 4 episodes so far, and I have to say its fantastic. Grown up Stargate. Robert Carlyle is absolutely superb and has been doing these psychopath/sociopath roles so well, ever since Albie Kinsella alongside Robbie Coltrane in Cracker. Was worth it just for his acting. Deep Space 9 is a great show with some top performers, but it'll always be drawn into comparison with Babylon 5. Out at a similar time, same central conceit - "hey, we're all on a space station" and both deal with spirituality in their own way. On a purely technical level, DS9 was by far the superior show. Better effects, better performances and better sets. Take a look what both shows achieved, and I think B5 wins out. At the end of Deep Space 9, most fans will have a deep attachment to Bajor, Cardassia, the Badlands, the Gamma Quadrant, the intricacies of the Klingon empire but most of all, a wonderfully open conclusion for the leading man. It's all good stuff, and on balance, I reckon it's the best Trek show by some margin. That all said, by the end of B5, you have an explanation for religion, a massively cautionary tale about the effects of letting xenophobia run rampant, rumbling and large mysteries solved and as good an explanation as you'd find for our purpose, anywhere. You'll also have seen the rise and fall of empires, how the seductive and destructive nature of power and ambition can corrode a man entirely, or how repeated acts of virtue can turn someone into an unwilling religious icon. Like I said, DS9 will always be compared with B5. As someone who watched DS9 first, B5 always comes out ahead in the final analysis. Edited 19 June, 2013 by pap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 19 June, 2013 Share Posted 19 June, 2013 Deep Space 9 is a great show with some top performers, but it'll always be drawn into comparison with Babylon 5. Out at a similar time, same central conceit - "hey, we're all on a space station" and both deal with spirituality in their own way. On a purely technical level, DS9 was by far the superior show. Better effects, better performances and better sets. Take a look what both shows achieved, and I think B5 wins out. At the end of Deep Space 9, most fans will have a deep attachment to Bajor, Cardassia, the Badlands, the Gamma Quadrant, the intricacies of the Klingon empire but most of all and a wonderfully open conclusion for the leading man. It's all good stuff, and on balance, I reckon it's the best Trek show by some margin. That all said, by the end of B5, you have an explanation for religion, a massively cautionary tale about the effects of letting xenophobia run rampant, rumbling and large mysteries solved and as good an explanation as you'd find for our purpose, anywhere. You'll also have seen the rise and fall of empires, how the seductive and destructive nature of power and ambition can corrode a man entirely, or how repeated acts of virtue can turn someone into an unwilling religious icon. Like I said, DS9 will always be compared with B5. As someone who watched DS9 first, B5 always comes out ahead in the final analysis. But which had the best clunge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 19 June, 2013 Share Posted 19 June, 2013 But which had the best clunge? DS9. Chase Masterson as Leeta. Amazing, she is now 50.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 June, 2013 Share Posted 19 June, 2013 DS9. Chase Masterson as Leeta. Amazing, she is now 50.... Dax was delicious, but maybe a bit too nice-girl for this toerag's tastes. The Intendant rates a "would" too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 19 June, 2013 Share Posted 19 June, 2013 as good an explanation as you'd find for our purpose, anywhere. what was explanation for our purpose pap? I am never gonna watch these shows but i would still like to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 19 June, 2013 Share Posted 19 June, 2013 Dax was delicious, but maybe a bit too nice-girl for this toerag's tastes. The Intendant rates a "would" too. If we're going mirror universe I vote me Ezri.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 19 June, 2013 Share Posted 19 June, 2013 If we're going mirror universe I vote me Ezri.... Good call that man, a little irritating in the show but a solid fox in the mirror universe episodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 June, 2013 Share Posted 19 June, 2013 what was explanation for our purpose pap? I am never gonna watch these shows but i would still like to know! Apparently, we're manifestations of the universe trying to suss itself out through the prism of sentience. Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 June, 2013 Share Posted 20 June, 2013 If we're going mirror universe I vote me Ezri.... Ah. So you're into durty lezzas, then.... I agree about Chase Masterson. I love the episode when Gul Dukat is rounding up Rom and a few others during the temporary Dominion occupation of DS9, and he turns around with his face about a foot from her tits, looks into her face and says "they can come along too" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 20 June, 2013 Share Posted 20 June, 2013 rarely heard Sisko mentioned when people discuss their 'favourite captain' , he is mine by some way. Love him leaving Dukat the baseball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 20 June, 2013 Share Posted 20 June, 2013 Oh and O'Brien getting away saying ******** was great as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 June, 2013 Share Posted 20 June, 2013 What about the episode "Our Man Bashir" when he plays a James Bond-type character in Quarks holosuite and his assistant, all legs and boots, is called Mona Luvsitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 June, 2013 Share Posted 20 June, 2013 rarely heard Sisko mentioned when people discuss their 'favourite captain' , he is mine by some way. Love him leaving Dukat the baseball Always thought he was over-acting a bit myself. Not as bad as Kate Mulgrew did as Janeway, but still a bit too hammy for my liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 June, 2013 Share Posted 20 June, 2013 Janeway always came across to me like a 50s school governess, especially the voice. Maybe there was something a bit kinky about her. Didnt like it when she switched the hair bun for a bob. When it comes to the acting stakes, the only captain worth his salt was Patrick Stewart, of course, but then he overdid it sometimes, considering the material, and came across as pompous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 20 June, 2013 Share Posted 20 June, 2013 Know I've banged on about the episode before but 'Pale Moonlight' as an episode with Garak and Siskos monologue at the end was just superb. Best star trek ep ever for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 June, 2013 Share Posted 20 June, 2013 The one where the Romulans get dragged into the Dominion War on the side of the Federation ? Oh, I agree. Top notch episode. Brooks wasnt hamming it for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 June, 2013 Share Posted 20 June, 2013 Garak in that episode was astounding. That's why you came to me, isn't it, Captain? Because you knew I could do those things that you weren't capable of doing? Well, it worked. And you'll get what you want: a war between the Romulans and the Dominion. And if your conscience is bothering you, you should soothe it with the knowledge that you may have just saved the entire Alpha Quadrant. And all it cost was the life of one Romulan senator, one criminal, and the self-respect of one Starfleet officer. I don't know about you, but I'd call that a bargain. When DS9 was good, it was incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 June, 2013 Share Posted 20 June, 2013 Garak and the actor Andrew Robinson are massively undervalued for their contribution to DS9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 6 July, 2013 Share Posted 6 July, 2013 OK Sci Fi lurkers. Here's something coming your way. Defiance. Caught the Pilot on catch up TV tonight - some weird future where Alien Spaceships have come to earth, there has been some war and now Earth has been Terraformed and Humans and 7 other races are living on Earth together. For me it all seemed pretty incomprehensible with nods towards Mad Max, look at me CGI & Country & Western Music. However it felt like there was a story being told in there somewhere, so my opinion was to stick with it and see where it goes. So, then I went and Googled to see that this is not just some new TV show, but is aimed at being some kind of Game Changer (literally) Defiance has the potential to forever change the way television and video games entwine. Rather than spinning a successful TV show into a half-baked video game – or vice versa – the story of the Defiance universe plays out in parallel in both a video game and a TV series (See our Defiance game review). When a massive event plays out in the TV show – the online game world will change simultaneously. You’re literally playing within the show – or watching a show set within a game, depending on how you look at it. Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/defiance-the-tv-show-review/#ixzz2YIIGdmra Follow us: @digitaltrends on Twitter | digitaltrendsftw on Facebook OK so this does me no good at all the only games I ever play are Mahjong when I am REALLY bored. IMHO there are way too many cliches in the characters and dialogue at the moment, it kept me interested and I have set the Series record function, but having just caught up with the overwhelming quality & depth of Characters in Fringe Season 5, this new show has a lot of work to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 6 July, 2013 Share Posted 6 July, 2013 OK Sci Fi lurkers. Here's something coming your way. Defiance. Caught the Pilot on catch up TV tonight - some weird future where Alien Spaceships have come to earth, there has been some war and now Earth has been Terraformed and Humans and 7 other races are living on Earth together. For me it all seemed pretty incomprehensible with nods towards Mad Max, look at me CGI & Country & Western Music. However it felt like there was a story being told in there somewhere, so my opinion was to stick with it and see where it goes. So, then I went and Googled to see that this is not just some new TV show, but is aimed at being some kind of Game Changer (literally) OK so this does me no good at all the only games I ever play are Mahjong when I am REALLY bored. IMHO there are way too many cliches in the characters and dialogue at the moment, it kept me interested and I have set the Series record function, but having just caught up with the overwhelming quality & depth of Characters in Fringe Season 5, this new show has a lot of work to do This has been showing over here for some weeks now. Haven't caught it myself yet as there have been just too many series of various sorts to follow ATM. May try to look at it on catch up though. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 6 July, 2013 Share Posted 6 July, 2013 I'm on a limited DS9 rewatch. I'm just going after the Dominion eps. The interesting thing about that is the end of season 5 and the start of season 6, the period in which DS9 has fallen to Dominion control. When I first watched this, I was very antsy about Sisko and co taking back the titular space station. This time around, appreciating it for what it is, the Federation running on fumes, every attack a huge gamble; if any of them had failed we'd only have had 6.25 seasons of DS9 I've seen some very good episodes lately. Perhaps the most memorable is Rocks & Shoals, which sees a contingent of regular DS9 crew marooned on a planet with some Jem'Hadar suffering ketracyl white withdrawal, led by a scheming Vorta on death's door. Really does build up to an interesting conclusion. The very last episode I've watched is "Favor the Bold", which in Friends terms, is "the one where they send a giant fleet to retake DS9". Starship porn, basically. Interestingly, the chaps at Red Letter Media reckon this is the point where Trek became whizz-bang; when it wasn't just about a single ship - but whole fleets. I've got some sympathy with that view, and reckon the huge scope of B5's battles might have pushed them down this route, but it does look pretty awesome. Makes a mockery of the usual conceit that there is usually only one ship in range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 The very last episode I've watched is "Favor the Bold", which in Friends terms, is "the one where they send a giant fleet to retake DS9". Starship porn, basically. Interestingly, the chaps at Red Letter Media reckon this is the point where Trek became whizz-bang; when it wasn't just about a single ship - but whole fleets. I've got some sympathy with that view, and reckon the huge scope of B5's battles might have pushed them down this route, but it does look pretty awesome. Makes a mockery of the usual conceit that there is usually only one ship in range Once the battles engaged at the end of the DS9 run, the effects were top notch. But the lead up scenes of the fleets moving into position prior to engaging were utter crap. They were simple c n' ps of about 3 ships making the same manoeuvre to give the impression of 50 or 60 in-shot. Very, very poor. Overall, I dont like the battles at the end of DS9, except the Defiants parts. For me, the scene at the beginning of First Contact against the Borg cube was much better done; but then they probably had more time and a bigger budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 8 July, 2013 Share Posted 8 July, 2013 Once the battles engaged at the end of the DS9 run, the effects were top notch. But the lead up scenes of the fleets moving into position prior to engaging were utter crap. They were simple c n' ps of about 3 ships making the same manoeuvre to give the impression of 50 or 60 in-shot. Very, very poor. Overall, I dont like the battles at the end of DS9, except the Defiants parts. For me, the scene at the beginning of First Contact against the Borg cube was much better done; but then they probably had more time and a bigger budget. Funny you should mention that. When watching those scenes, I did lol at how unlikely a strategic option having a large, bunched up fleet would be when you have the benefit of space and the ability to travel on any vector! Though I'm no expert of space combat, it surely lends itself to a strategy of encirclement! I think it's purely there to look cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Defiance update (yes I know you lot are ahead but this is for the downloaders) The 1st Pilot was sort of meh but had the possibility of a story being told that was worth giving time to. Episode 2 went straight for the throat with conspiracies, Evil overwhelming Army invading & love interest. To be fair, the CGI still looks a bit wonky, the scheming "baddies" can't make their minds up whether they are from Game of Thrones S1, Rumplestiltskin from Once upon a time or Elves from Lord of The Rings. There's a good glimpse of the curve of a pair of Bewbs, but it won't get TMS interested yet. All in all MoG still worth a catch up, but I am getting the feeling that some of the supporting actors may just not be good enough to carry the characters & eventually that & the not quite good enough CGI & lack of Bewbs will see it hang at the end of the first season and go the way of many other US Series... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Space Above and Beyond, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 10 July, 2013 Share Posted 10 July, 2013 Space Above and Beyond, for example. Or the most obvious and bestest cultest ever, Joss Wheedon's Firefly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 12 July, 2013 Share Posted 12 July, 2013 Or the most obvious and bestest cultest ever, Joss Wheedon's Firefly I have just finished watching this series (still got the movie to watch yet) after reading a few posts about it on this thread previously. I'm not sure how but it completely crept under my radar before now. I find it a strange one really. In many ways it was very good, but it was also pretty poor and cheesy in a lot of ways as well. The biggest problem I think was that it was a science-fiction series but it was seriously lacking in any actual sciencey stuff. It was basically just a western-style show about some frontier criminals that happened to be set in space. It was also poorly researched from a writing point of view. Captain Reynolds and Zoe were supposedly veterans of a war, but during the actual fighting scenes they would normally just stand out in the open with wooden looks on their faces shooting at people. It was almost as bad as the A-team was for military realism. I still don't get why the preacher was included. He showed up wanting a ticket to nowhere in the first episode and didn't make a single noteworthy contribution to the script that I can remember. He may as well not have been there at all. And the whole sexual tension thing between Mal/Inara and Simon/Caylee was very badly written and executed by the actors as well I thought. For me the only really good, believable character was Jayne. The final episode was a massive let-down. I guess they expected to get another series so nothing really got resolved and it just fizzled out. BUT... despite all the above comments making it appear I hated it, I actually really enjoyed watching it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 12 July, 2013 Share Posted 12 July, 2013 Or the most obvious and bestest cultest ever, Joss Wheedon's Firefly I have just finished watching this series (still got the movie to watch yet) after reading a few posts about it on this thread previously. I'm not sure how but it completely crept under my radar before now. I find it a strange one really. In many ways it was very good, but it was also pretty poor and cheesy in a lot of ways as well. The biggest problem I think was that it was a science-fiction series but it was seriously lacking in any actual sciencey stuff. It was basically just a western-style show about some frontier criminals that happened to be set in space. It was also poorly researched from a writing point of view. Captain Reynolds and Zoe were supposedly veterans of a war, but during the actual fighting scenes they would normally just stand out in the open with wooden looks on their faces shooting at people. It was almost as bad as the A-team was for military realism. I still don't get why the preacher was included. He showed up wanting a ticket to nowhere in the first episode and didn't make a single noteworthy contribution to the script that I can remember. He may as well not have been there at all. And the whole sexual tension thing between Mal/Inara and Simon/Caylee was very badly written and executed by the actors as well I thought. For me the only really good, believable character was Jayne. The final episode was a massive let-down. I guess they expected to get another series so nothing really got resolved and it just fizzled out. BUT... despite all the above comments making it appear I hated it, I actually really enjoyed watching it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 12 July, 2013 Share Posted 12 July, 2013 I have just finished watching this series (still got the movie to watch yet) after reading a few posts about it on this thread previously. I'm not sure how but it completely crept under my radar before now. I find it a strange one really. In many ways it was very good, but it was also pretty poor and cheesy in a lot of ways as well. The biggest problem I think was that it was a science-fiction series but it was seriously lacking in any actual sciencey stuff. It was basically just a western-style show about some frontier criminals that happened to be set in space. It was also poorly researched from a writing point of view. Captain Reynolds and Zoe were supposedly veterans of a war, but during the actual fighting scenes they would normally just stand out in the open with wooden looks on their faces shooting at people. It was almost as bad as the A-team was for military realism. I still don't get why the preacher was included. He showed up wanting a ticket to nowhere in the first episode and didn't make a single noteworthy contribution to the script that I can remember. He may as well not have been there at all. And the whole sexual tension thing between Mal/Inara and Simon/Caylee was very badly written and executed by the actors as well I thought. For me the only really good, believable character was Jayne. The final episode was a massive let-down. I guess they expected to get another series so nothing really got resolved and it just fizzled out. BUT... despite all the above comments making it appear I hated it, I actually really enjoyed watching it I watched this for the first time recently as well (mentioned it on here a few months back) and generally agree with the above. Great series but nowhere near trek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 (edited) I've read an interview with Joss Whedon where he refuses to get drawn into technical specifics, regarding Firefly. He was quizzed on anti-grav, and explained that it was just there. As for Shepherd Book, no notable lines in the show? Hell, he has one of the best lines in the entire damn show. (just before a genuine do or die rescue mission, whole crew armed to teeth) "Preacher. Don't the Bible have some specific things to say about killin'?" "Quite specific. It is however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps" Also, I think you really need to watch Serenity to understand what Book is, or was. It's heavily implied that he is an operative in that film. My guess is that he would have become something much more in an expanded TV show. There are a couple of occasions when the show hints at his deep Alliance ties. That would have been interesting to watch as the show went on. Remember that the show got cancelled; who knows where they might have gone afterward? Serenity is a good denouement to the show. If I'm honest, doesn't really work without it and spends the first fifteen minutes trying to bring everyone up to speed on what sort of characters you're dealing with. It's very ham-fisted, and can't help feeling they'd have been better off just going with it. That all said, it improves; a lot. Definitely not deserving of best sci-fi film ever ( hell, I'd place the recent District 9 WAY above it ), but a great series that would have been immense had it continued. Edited 14 July, 2013 by pap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Star Trek nerds; this may just be the geekiest game ever. http://www.artemis.eochu.com/ Artemis Starship Bridge Simulator. I want a go. Bagsy Engineering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Anyone seen Pandorum? Quite enjoyed that. Watched Repo Men last night. Quite a good idea but overall found the film a tad gash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 July, 2013 Share Posted 14 July, 2013 Just want to upgrade Defiance to enjoyable Telly from not sure about it. It ain't Firefly (let alone Star Trek) but is a helluva lot better than the Cooking/Soap Channels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 July, 2013 Share Posted 15 July, 2013 Really, really into Stargate Universe now. For those of you who havent tried it, and got put off by the moaning that it aint Stargate Sg-1, just try out the story arc of the last 2 episodes of the first series, and first episode of the second series. Absolutely brilliant. "Incursion Part 2" is just about the best Sci-Fi I've seen since the very first time I watched Star Trek TNG "Best of Both Worlds" Part 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 15 July, 2013 Share Posted 15 July, 2013 I have just finished watching this series (still got the movie to watch yet) after reading a few posts about it on this thread previously. I'm not sure how but it completely crept under my radar before now. I find it a strange one really. In many ways it was very good, but it was also pretty poor and cheesy in a lot of ways as well. The biggest problem I think was that it was a science-fiction series but it was seriously lacking in any actual sciencey stuff. It was basically just a western-style show about some frontier criminals that happened to be set in space. It was also poorly researched from a writing point of view. Captain Reynolds and Zoe were supposedly veterans of a war, but during the actual fighting scenes they would normally just stand out in the open with wooden looks on their faces shooting at people. It was almost as bad as the A-team was for military realism. I still don't get why the preacher was included. He showed up wanting a ticket to nowhere in the first episode and didn't make a single noteworthy contribution to the script that I can remember. He may as well not have been there at all. And the whole sexual tension thing between Mal/Inara and Simon/Caylee was very badly written and executed by the actors as well I thought. For me the only really good, believable character was Jayne. The final episode was a massive let-down. I guess they expected to get another series so nothing really got resolved and it just fizzled out. BUT... despite all the above comments making it appear I hated it, I actually really enjoyed watching it It definitely feels like it fizzles out but Fox cancelled the show halfway through the planned season, so the last episodes on the DVD aren't really meant to be any kind of finale. Actually, only 11 of the 14 produced episodes were broadcast, and some of them out of order too. Definitely a shame, I would've loved to see where a show with that much imagination could've gone in a couple of full seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 23 July, 2013 Share Posted 23 July, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2374671/NASA-scientists-begin-warp-speed-experiments-change-Star-Treks-science-fiction-fact.html Ready for warp speed? NASA scientists begin experiments that could change Star Trek's science fiction into fact Hmm 40 years ago, automatic sliding doors and talking on a Communicator were ridiculous ideas.... Oh and Defiance? Easy watching, and compared with some of the new attempts from the US it would class as great TV Sci-Fi is the verdict from everyone down here now. Not saying that there is much competition these days though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 23 July, 2013 Share Posted 23 July, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2374671/NASA-scientists-begin-warp-speed-experiments-change-Star-Treks-science-fiction-fact.html Hmm 40 years ago, automatic sliding doors and talking on a Communicator were ridiculous ideas.... Oh and Defiance? Easy watching, and compared with some of the new attempts from the US it would class as great TV Sci-Fi is the verdict from everyone down here now. Not saying that there is much competition these days though Glasgow airport has had automatic sliding doors since it was opened 47 years ago. We used to ride our bikes along the pavement outside the front of the terminal just to watch the doors open and close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 23 July, 2013 Share Posted 23 July, 2013 Glasgow airport has had automatic sliding doors since it was opened 47 years ago. We used to ride our bikes along the pavement outside the front of the terminal just to watch the doors open and close. Kids these days just don't know what they are missing eh. OK so those people who were not brought up in Glasgow found them pretty damned unbelievable. I mean Salisbury didn't get that up to date until, ooh let me think, at least last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 23 July, 2013 Share Posted 23 July, 2013 (edited) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2374671/NASA-scientists-begin-warp-speed-experiments-change-Star-Treks-science-fiction-fact.html You can always trust the Daily Mail to be right at the cutting edge with their exclusives eh?... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42252-To-boldly-go&highlight=boldly#.Ue5z643qlv4 40 years ago, automatic sliding doors and talking on a Communicator were ridiculous ideas.... Edited 23 July, 2013 by Sheaf Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 July, 2013 Share Posted 24 July, 2013 Not sure this will fit into Sci Fi category but looks interesting. Anything Josh Whedon does for TV these days has to be interesting to get him involved http://movies.yahoo.com/news/joss-whedon-marvels-agents-h-e-l-d-230305040.html Roll on September Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 2 August, 2013 Share Posted 2 August, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01dlmj4 I'll just leave this here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 2 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 2 August, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01dlmj4 I'll just leave this here. It will be good to finally find out who it is. Hopefully put to rest all the rumours about a female doctor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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