Sci-fi Fans

[pap]

Loved it also, and wish I'd gone and seen it at the cinema. Moffat is a genius but agree he needs a strong script editor as felt there was a fundamental flaw with the Day of the Doctor

 

(spoilers follow)

 

Why didn't the later Doctors just tell John Hurt's Doctor that his genocide failed? The Daleks survived anyway, ergo no point in trying to destroy them. It was the centrepiece of the episode (and distilled in to a couple of minutes 50 years of what the Doctor stands for) and felt it fell a little short. Still hugely dramatic and emotional, a true edge of the seat moment.

 

Tom Baker was my Doctor and I had the same reaction as I did at the end of "An Adventure in Space & Time" (which is well worth a watch if you haven't seen it).

 

They covered your major issue. The War Doctor went back to his time without any memory of events. Even if they'd have spilled the beans, he'd never have remembered.

 

I watched it last night and spotted several things that'd really undo some of the stuff we've been told before, but they managed to corral it all into existing continuity.

 

The only thing I thought was a little crap was Baker's appearance. Doesn't really make any sense as anything but fan service.

[Bearsy]

I watched the first 10 minutes or so. I was annoyed by the dumb government woman air-lifting Doctor Who's house without even bothering to knock on the door first to check if he was inside. It seemed amazingly careless and no regard for H&S. I was also annoyed by him being "I'll have a quick look outside, oops I is fallen! No, I'm ok... Oops now I is hang on by my ankles!" It was attention seeking. He was mugging it up on purpose. I wish he'd broke his bleeding neck.

 

The other thing I noticed was his girlfriend is suffer from bad acting. I turned it off soon after. I might watch some more on iplayers and let you know further interesting observations.

[Bearsy]

first full episode with the Sex Bots.

 

sold!

[Tokyo-Saint]

Bearsy & Tokes would just LOVE

 

I would just like to make it clear at this point that we are not and never have been a couple.

 

Obviously bear has tried it on a few times but it is just not my scene. I get enough of that at sexy summers Sundays on Ham Common, I don't need some dumb bear cramping my style.

[Bearsy]

Don't be that way tokyos, we're double act. We're synonymous. Like Ant+Dec, Turkish+MLG or your mum + blow jobs.

[Tokyo-Saint]

Ok, but I'm the straight man, if you know what I'm sayin.

[Bearsy]

There are no straight men on Saintsweb

[Tokyo-Saint]

Definitely note cruising around the arts section, that's for sure.

[Bearsy]

Bearsy & Tokes would just LOVE the whole concept of a world as shown in the first full episode with the Sex Bots.

 

I just watched the whole first episode and there was NO sexbots you mutherfucka! It was also terrible. Is the next episode more good, and crucially does it feature SEXBOTS?

 

Respond asap pls

[Tokyo-Saint]

I am not trying it bear. I lost a lot of trust in saints web recommendations when you tricked me into watching that dumb 'Girls' thing.

[dubai_phil]

I just watched the whole first episode and there was NO sexbots you mutherfucka! It was also terrible. Is the next episode more good, and crucially does it feature SEXBOTS?

 

Respond asap pls

 

The first episode was labelled PILOT

 

The SECOND show as labelled episode 1

 

Sexbots are in the second show or episode1

 

I mean, how much more complicated do you want it?

 

HTH

[Bearsy]

ok phil, sorry phil. I did recognise quite a few famous faces in the cast tho, the main guy is Bones from the new star trek movie, his boss was one of the ex-girlfirends from High Fidelity, the one with Aids I think, and the computer nerd is Gareth from the Office. Interesting!

[dubai_phil]

ok phil, sorry phil. I did recognise quite a few famous faces in the cast tho, the main guy is Bones from the new star trek movie, his boss was one of the ex-girlfirends from High Fidelity, the one with Aids I think, and the computer nerd is Gareth from the Office. Interesting!

 

Ah THAT's who he was. Knew I recognised him but hadn't bothered to go goggle & wiki the show yet. Gareth - big comedown from co-starring with Johnny Depp in Pirates, OR the show has big plans,,,,,,,,,,

 

The online dating gag in 2nd show is a bit obvious but amusing. Think clever fitteh in the office shows promise.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

My cup runneth over ....

 

It's been a fantastic time to be a Doctor Who fan recently what with the anniversary celebrations and the rediscovery of two missing Troughton stories, but it seems there might just be more to come. The rumor mill is again buzzing with tales that a completely missing seven part 1964 William Hartnell serial 'Marco Polo' has been rediscovered in its entirety.

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-missing-episodes-seven-2839102

 

You have to wonder just how good the quality can possibly be when someone literally films their small (very low definition) early 1960's TV screen, but thanks to modern technology the restoration team can do wonders these days with even the poorest base material to work with. I see the BBC has issued one of those 'we can neither confirmed nor deny' type statements regarding this news - which I'm taking to be a strong hint there may well be something to this story.

 

Here's hoping anyway.

Edited 26 November, 2013 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE

[Saint J 77]

My cup runneth over ....

 

It's been a fantastic time to be a Doctor Who fan recently what with the anniversary celebrations and the rediscovery of two missing Troughton stories, but it seems there might just be more to come. The rumor mill is again buzzing with tales that a completely missing seven part 1964 William Hartnell serial 'Marco Polo' has been rediscovered in its entirety.

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-missing-episodes-seven-2839102

 

You have to wonder just how good the quality can possibly be when someone literally films their small (very low definition) early 1960's TV screen, but thanks to modern technology the restoration team can do wonders these days with even the poorest base material to work with. I see the BBC has issued one of those 'we can neither confirmed nor deny' type statements regarding this news - which I'm taking to be a strong hint there may well be something to this story.

 

Here's hoping anyway.

 

I've been following the missing episode rumours for a while now with great interest. I've read that Marco Polo mirror story is, surprise surprise, factually incorrect. I've heard it was found in Africa and the fan recoding is of another missing episode.

 

This is a good site that has a good round up of all the missing episode rumours to date. I'll repeat what they say. As ever all rumours come from a variety of sources and may be true, true in part or completely false, they should not be repeated as fact nor taken as anything other than the rumours they are until there is confirmation from official sources.

 

http://doctorwhoarchive.com/2013/11/26/post-50th-anniversary-missing-episodes-rumours/

 

Could be a lot of wishful thinking but its an interesting read none the less. I'd like to think at least a few of them are true.

[Saint J 77]

Here is a great video showing the amount of work that goes into restoring old missing episodes.

 

[Saint J 77]

The rumours i've read are the Mirror have got crossed wires and merged two different stories.

 

The main one is Marco Polo which is believed to be part of the "African" haul with stories like The Massacre and The Macra Terror. It appears Marco Polo was supposed to be released with the first "batch" of recovered episodes (makes sense if there was a big haul, to do Hartnell and Troughton) but it took longer to get ready, or needed more restoration work.

 

The second one is that Dalek Masterplan has been found, complete, from silent fan TV recordings. So all reference to splicing audio and re-recording voices, is to do with DMP, not Marco Polo. This then makes sense as the audio DMP isn't perfect. I was wondering about Feast of Steven / Mission to the Unknown. If it is indeed complete then both would be found too (maybe not Mission), in which case we've got back 2 episodes no one ever really expected to see again.

[RonManager]

All the Doctors 1963-2013.

 

[Saint J 77]

All the Doctors 1963-2013.

 

 

From 1 to 7 it almost looks like the actor Douglas Henshall.

 

http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Douglas_Henshall-1.jpg

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

The rumours i've read are the Mirror have got crossed wires and merged two different stories.

 

The main one is Marco Polo which is believed to be part of the "African" haul with stories like The Massacre and The Macra Terror. It appears Marco Polo was supposed to be released with the first "batch" of recovered episodes (makes sense if there was a big haul, to do Hartnell and Troughton) but it took longer to get ready, or needed more restoration work.

 

The second one is that Dalek Masterplan has been found, complete, from silent fan TV recordings. So all reference to splicing audio and re-recording voices, is to do with DMP, not Marco Polo. This then makes sense as the audio DMP isn't perfect. I was wondering about Feast of Steven / Mission to the Unknown. If it is indeed complete then both would be found too (maybe not Mission), in which case we've got back 2 episodes no one ever really expected to see again.

 

Thanks for the info my friend - it would be a proper downer if nothing came out of all this speculation now wouldn't it?

 

As for The Dalek's Master Plan, naturally like any proper Who fan I've seen what is currently available on the 'Lost in Time' DVD and - fun as seeing the demotic little buggers with Flame Throwers certainly is - I'm not really sure the general public is ready yet for a 12 part Dalek epic. Getting to see the wonderful Kevin Stoney chewing the scenery again would however be a most welcome development.

 

Funnily enough I was showing my (Who and Saints mad) Godson 'The Moonbase' only last week and as you may well know we briefly catch a glimpse of the fiendish 'Macra Terror' in the final back in the TARDIS scene. I spun the boy a line on how utterly nightmarish this fearsome crab-like beast is - so it may not be a entirely good thing for my reputation if he finally gets to see this serial and the truth is exposed!

 

[Saint J 77]

Thanks for the info my friend - it would be a proper downer if nothing came out of all this speculation now wouldn't it?

 

As for The Dalek's Master Plan, naturally like any proper Who fan I've seen what is currently available on the 'Lost in Time' DVD and - fun as seeing the demotic little buggers with Flame Throwers certainly is - I'm not really sure the general public is ready yet for a 12 part Dalek epic. Getting to see the wonderful Kevin Stoney chewing the scenery again would however be a most welcome development.

 

Funnily enough I was showing my (Who and Saints mad) Godson 'The Moonbase' only last week and as you may well know we briefly catch a glimpse of the fiendish 'Macra Terror' in the final back in the TARDIS scene. I spun the boy a line on how utterly nightmarish this fearsome crab-like beast is - so it may not be a entirely good thing for my reputation if he finally gets to see this serial and the truth is exposed!

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/gallery/monsters1/images/1024/macra.html

 

I love the design of the Macra but the eyes could do with a little digital remastering! They just look like a couple of stuck on plates

[pap]

Spoilers for Chrimbo Doctor Who ahoy. Read no further if you have not yet indulged.

 

It's a contrived mess. The episode seems to very cynically be about one thing, which is the time lord transition. For most of the episode, the current Doctor is trapped in a twee town called Christmas, which happens to be the location of a giant crack in universes. Some techno-religious faction wants it gone because timelords from other universes may be able to get back, and are prepared to destroy the planet for it. The Doctor is so in love with the people and concept of Christmas that he hangs around for centuries, protecting it from all the things that happen to pop through the time crack; essentially a roll call of all the major Moffat-era villains. We all know the score; Smith is going and Capaldi is arriving. At least have the man go out with a bang. This was a neutered Christmas whimper, in which the Doctor betrayed his companion twice in one episode, all for the love of a town which was a bit weird anyway.

 

No account of this episode would be complete without the end of the notion of thirteen timelords. Moffat's run introduced the War Doctor, who counts. Smith also said that a previous incarnation was vain and unhappy with his appearance, so regenerated. The big revelation of this episode was that Smith's Doctor couldn't regenerate. End of line?

 

Except of course, Moffat's Who suffers from just as much deus ex machina as Russel T Davies' work. I sometimes get the impression that both of them have simply created a series of devices that they can wheel out when they, or the series, has painted itself into a corner. You could argue that a little bit of deus ex is justified when trying to consolidate the continuation of the show beyond the original limit of thirteen, and I have to say, I've no real problem with timelords conferring extra regenerative powers onto the Doctor. Who else could, for starters? And besides, the Master contrived a way to go beyond his limits. It's not unprecedented.

 

My major moan here is that it was all done so cheaply. Most Who fans would love to see more timelord sh!t. I quite enjoyed the finale that had them as antagonists, if only for getting to see a little of Gallifreyan society. Having extra regenerative powers farted through a wall is a poor substitute for what they could have had; a chance to lay down the lore of Gallifrey in the modern era.

 

Only seen it the once, so not quite sure what accent Capaldi is doing at the moment.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

I thought that 'The Time of the Doctor' was in many ways another absolutely typical Steven Moffat yarn - a veritable smörgasbord of disparate ideas and half forgotten plot-lines stuffed into a blunderbuss and fired off right into the face of its somewhat bemused audience. What younger children made of it I don't know ... they were probably left even more confused and befuddled than I am frankly.

 

But that's not the whole story because it was also pretty damn wonderful in places too. The scripts Moffat pens are peppered with genuine 'laugh out loud' humour mixed with a kind of subtle pathos and level of emotional depth that is all-too uncommon in Science Fiction. The special effects and production standards on display now are (very) close to the quality you would expect to see at the cinema today - a quantum leap from the old cheap and cheerful Who of my childhood. As for the now departed Doctor himself, Matt Smith is such a abundantly odd and talented young actor I fully expect him to buck the ever downward career path of most ex Doctor's and a forge a successful future for himself as a working actor.

 

If only Moffat's time at the helm of 'Doctor Who' were infused with a better understanding of this series audience and the value of discipline in his writing then perhaps he might be remembered as one of the truly great 'Who' producers, and not just a memorable one.

 

ps - I loved the little 'dig' he took at Christopher Ecclestone when explaining just how the Doctor had used up all his regenerations!

[Saint J 77]

The regeneration was a little bit different too. I was expecting the usual modern era firework show and then it happened in a blink of an eye.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01nzqm6

[pap]

I thought that 'The Time of the Doctor' was in many ways another absolutely typical Steven Moffat yarn - a veritable smörgasbord of disparate ideas and half forgotten plot-lines stuffed into a blunderbuss and fired off right into the face of its somewhat bemused audience. What younger children made of it I don't know ... they were probably left even more confused and befuddled than I am frankly.

 

But that's not the whole story because it was also pretty damn wonderful in places too. The scripts Moffat pens are peppered with genuine 'laugh out loud' humour mixed with a kind of subtle pathos and level of emotional depth that is all-too uncommon in Science Fiction. The special effects and production standards on display now are (very) close to the quality you would expect to see at the cinema today - a quantum leap from the old cheap and cheerful Who of my childhood. As for the now departed Doctor himself, Matt Smith is such a abundantly odd and talented young actor I fully expect him to buck the ever downward career path of most ex Doctor's and a forge a successful future for himself as a working actor.

 

If only Moffat's time at the helm of 'Doctor Who' were infused with a better understanding of this series audience and the value of discipline in his writing then perhaps he might be remembered as one of the truly great 'Who' producers, and not just a memorable one.

 

ps - I loved the little 'dig' he took at Christopher Ecclestone when explaining just how the Doctor had used up all his regenerations!

 

Do you not think there is a chance that with stuff like Sherlock, arguably a more critically respected show, is pulling Moffat's attentions in too many directions?

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

You may well be right, although I note he only writes some Sherlock scripts rather than attempting to be both Series Producer and be Head Writer for Doctor Who. I suppose it's no surprise that both series exhibit a similiar tendency towards a confusing plot, fast (if not hyperactive) pacing, and a witty script that is so typical of the man. Much as I've criticized him on here we both obviously love the same kind of stuff (Dr Jekyll, Who & Holmes) so he can't be all bad then.

 

... Oh and what a superb Doctor Benedict Cumberbach would have made, although I suspect he may be too expensive for the beeb now.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

I was reading the other day that in his determination to work all the previous Doctors into last years 50th anniversary Doctor Who special somehow, series producer Steven Moffat wanted to show the posters for both the old Peter Cushing film versions of Doctor Who in the background of one of the new sets. His idea being that those films are actually semi fictional accounts of the 'real' Doctor's adventures if you're mad enough to know what I mean.

 

Now you might say this level of deep nerdom shows the dangers of putting fans in charge of a TV series. I say however that this was a brilliant idea that would have helped made some sort of bizarre sense out of Who's confusing (and often contradictory) back story. However we are told (although I have my doubts) that issues surrounding the cost of obtaining the commercial rights to show the two posters scuppered the idea.

 

Boo!

[Saint J 77]

I was reading the other day that in his determination to work all the previous Doctors into last years 50th anniversary Doctor Who special somehow, series producer Steven Moffat wanted to show the posters for both the old Peter Cushing film versions of Doctor Who in the background of one of the new sets. His idea being that those films are actually semi fictional accounts of the 'real' Doctor's adventures if you're mad enough to know what I mean.

 

Now you might say this level of deep nerdom shows the dangers of putting fans in charge of a TV series. I say however that this was a brilliant idea that would have helped made some sort of bizarre sense out of Who's confusing (and often contradictory) back story. However we are told (although I have my doubts) that issues surrounding the cost of obtaining the commercial rights to show the two posters scuppered the idea.

 

Boo!

 

That would have been a nice idea. Its a shame it didn't happen. The Doctor could even of name checked the films after seeing the posters. He could have said something along the lines of "They made a couple of films about me once, it must have been Chesterton selling our stories of my first encounters with the Daleks."

 

Obviously Peter Cushing's films were remakes of TV adventures starring William Hartnell as the first Doctor. Rather than playing a new incarnation of the now famous renegade Time Lord. Peter Cushing played a human scientist called Dr Who in two non-canon films. To be fair at the time of making the films they didn't know the Doctor in the series was a Time Lord but they did know he was an alien from another planet and not an eccentric inventor from earth.

[Saint_clark]

The Doctor is so in love with the people and concept of Christmas that he hangs around for centuries, protecting it from all the things that happen to pop through the time crack; essentially a roll call of all the major Moffat-era villains. We all know the score; Smith is going and Capaldi is arriving. At least have the man go out with a bang. This was a neutered Christmas whimper, in which the Doctor betrayed his companion twice in one episode, all for the love of a town which was a bit weird anyway.

 

I know I'm a bit late, but I think you totally misunderstood this. The villains weren't popping through the crack, they were coming down from the the ships above. And the Doctor wasn't just staying there to save the people (which is reason enough for a character such as that), but also because as far as he knew it was his only chance to bring the Timelords back.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

I see Hollywood has decided, in its wisdom, that the world needs yet another addition to the long running 'Terminator' film/tv franchise:

 

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/terminator/29378/jai-courtney-confirmed-as-kyle-reese-in-terminator-genesis

 

I first saw (via a VCR) James Cameron's original 'The Terminator' way back in the mid 1980's and loved it beyond all reason. So when Cameron returned to the subject (with a vastly bigger budget) with his truly epic 'Judgement Day' in 1991 you can rest assured that I was there queuing outside the local cinema on the opening weekend with my like minded sci-fi devotees. As a movie going experience that wonderful film (like Blade Runner and Alien did a decade or so before) just blew me away - even all these years later I still think these are among the best movies I've ever seen and that era as a veritable golden age of cinema sci-fi.

 

Later Terminator versions have sadly conformed to the iron law of ever diminishing returns to differing extents and I'd be lying if I told you I'm expecting very much from 'Terminator Genesis' either. It's not that they are necessarily bad films per se, but rather the lack of originality implicit in the squeal format is bound to disappoint however hard the film-maker tries to avoid that trap.

 

That's not to say however that when 'Genesis' is released next year I'll be able to resist the temptation of attempting recapture a magic moment in time that is quite beyond repeating ...

[pap]

I see Hollywood has decided, in its wisdom, that the world needs yet another addition to the long running 'Terminator' film/tv franchise:

 

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/terminator/29378/jai-courtney-confirmed-as-kyle-reese-in-terminator-genesis

 

I first saw (via a VCR) James Cameron's original 'The Terminator' way back in the mid 1980's and loved it beyond all reason. So when Cameron returned to the subject (with a vastly bigger budget) with his truly epic 'Judgement Day' in 1991 you can rest assured that I was there queuing outside the local cinema on the opening weekend with my like minded sci-fi devotees. As a movie going experience that wonderful film (like Blade Runner and Alien did a decade or so before) just blew me away - even all these years later I still think these are among the best movies I've ever seen and that era as a veritable golden age of cinema sci-fi.

 

Later Terminator versions have sadly conformed to the iron law of ever diminishing returns to differing extents and I'd be lying if I told you I'm expecting very much from 'Terminator Genesis' either. It's not that they are necessarily bad films per se, but rather the lack of originality implicit in the squeal format is bound to disappoint however hard the film-maker tries to avoid that trap.

 

That's not to say however that when 'Genesis' is released next year I'll be able to resist the temptation of attempting recapture a magic moment in time that is quite beyond repeating ...

 

There isn't a bad Terminator film.

 

Conceptually, it's genius. Skynet ultimately seeds its own destruction by trying to kill John Connor, creating him in the process. One giant paradox, which two tried to close down, and three manfully delivered on. Always had to be a judgement day in order for John Connor (and the films) to exist in the first place.

 

I've only seen Salvation twice, evidence perhaps of your diminishing returns, but there's a lot to like in that movie too.

 

Not too sure about this latest project. A new trilogy, with Kyle Reese recast (again). Sniffs suspiciously of a reboot to me, which is the last thing a dedicated Terminator fan would want.

[Bearsy]

There isn't a bad Terminator film.

 

Conceptually, it's genius. Skynet ultimately seeds its own destruction by trying to kill John Connor, creating him in the process. One giant paradox, which two tried to close down, and three manfully delivered on. Always had to be a judgement day in order for John Connor (and the films) to exist in the first place.

 

I've only seen Salvation twice, evidence perhaps of your diminishing returns, but there's a lot to like in that movie too.

 

Not too sure about this latest project. A new trilogy, with Kyle Reese recast (again). Sniffs suspiciously of a reboot to me, which is the last thing a dedicated Terminator fan would want.

 

such lies pap, the salvation one is terrible! I don't blame terminator's for that, I blame McG. I would counter ur "there isn't a bad terminator film" with the more universal truism, "All McG films is shit"

 

I watched a science film last night called oblivion, it was set in a future where almost half of the human population is Tom Cruises. There is literally thousands of Tom Cruises! It is the most terrifying dystopia ever captured on film.

[pap]

such lies pap, the salvation one is terrible! I don't blame terminator's for that, I blame McG. I would counter ur "there isn't a bad terminator film" with the more universal truism, "All McG films is shit"

 

I watched a science film last night called oblivion, it was set in a future where almost half of the human population is Tom Cruises. There is literally thousands of Tom Cruises! It is the most terrifying dystopia ever captured on film.

 

I didn't mind it, but I like post-apocalyptic stuff and robots and stuff. It wasn't bad, just not as good as the others. Timecop is bad. No Retreat, No Surrender is bad (but glorious). Terminator: Salvation is not bad, just the worst of the Terminator films. It's no Superman IV: The Quest for Peace.

[percy windham]

Timecop is not bad. Timecop is an astonishing piece of cinema.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Doctor Who: The Ice Warriors (1967)

 

I've just been watching the newly released DVD of this classic serial from the Patrick Troughton era. A better than average example of mid 60's 'Who' I thought, a bit slow at times perhaps but with a memorable monster and a fine supporting cast led by the late Peter Barkworth and the well known 'Carry On' star Bernard Bresslaw - although in truth Bresslaw is completely hidden by his all encasing Ice Warrior costume.

 

Sadly this is yet another of those 60's Who serials that is now (partially) lost from the BBC achieve - in this example episodes 2 and 3 (from this 6 parter) are still missing. But nil desperandum my fellow Whovians because the two lost episodes have been especially recreated in animated form for this DVD - the original audio track and camera scripts are still in existence making this process eminently possible.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH1tF7SbE9E

 

Although the end result reminds me a little of Captain Pugwash at times and it can never fully capture what is now lost, the small animation team has nevertheless produced a highly satisfactory offering that manages to convey the story to the viewer in a infinetly superior manner when compared to the old Audio + Telesnaps efforts of the VHS past.

 

More of this please - I know the Bear will certainly agree with me on this ...

[dubai_phil]

An odd one popped up on TV tonight. 3 hours long.

 

Cloud Atlas. Guess it was released on DVD & Blue Ray so most would have seen it.

 

It is a movie I could not decide was utter ****e or a work of genius. It has scenes set in the 1840's mixed up with a couple of differing post apocalypse timelines. It has a heck of a cast and the different bits seem to be produced or Directed by different people giving them very different feels.

The concept is how things repeat through differing lives and a killer becomes a hero or the coward a hero. Perhaps the believing it to be ****e comes from some un-intelligible accents in the after the world has ended section and the hang on isn't she the Korean girl when spotting a wife of a slave trader with Ginger hair in the 1800's section.

 

Tom Hanks does a damned good impression of someone with a Russell Crowe haircut in the late section and a wonderfully overacted murdering Doctor.

 

I found it engrossing, certainly original, loved the mad Solyent Green cries of old Mr Cavendish and then the homage to the same later.

 

Yeah on balance I think it could go down as an epic.

 

Once I work out what the fook it was all about.

 

Sci Fi movies with Spaceships & Cowboys in them NEED to star Daniel Craig FFS and should they REALLY have Gay 1930's English toff's having love scenes?

 

Yeah enjoyed it - weird

[Saint Luke]

Just read Cloud Atlas and it is quite different.

I was surprised that David Mitchell (books author) was also involved in the screen play as there is so much missing from the film.

The film also jumps around a lot more than the book and ends in a different timezone.

In the book you start off in the 1800's and end up in the 1800's only visiting each timezone twice (i think)

Can't quite work out which i preferred - book or film - I like both a lot.

[alpine_saint]

I see MGM are about to reboot Stargate.

[pap]

I see MGM are about to reboot Stargate.

 

Meh. I think we've had enough.

[Whitey Grandad]

I see MGM are about to reboot Stargate.

 

Meh. I think we've had enough.

 

You can never have enough of Stargate. I only watch it for Amanda Tapping

[so22saint]

Watched "Her" this week - it was bloody brilliant I thought

[Grey Crab]

This thread is a really handy shorthand to weed out all the forum dorks and weeds.

 

Helpful for sorting out whose opinions on football can easily be dismissed on the main board.

 

Good work virgins!

[Saint_Jonny]

Congratulations. Now everyone knows you are a troll. Good work.

[pap]

This thread is a really handy shorthand to weed out all the forum dorks and weeds.

 

Helpful for sorting out whose opinions on football can easily be dismissed on the main board.

 

Good work virgins!

 

It's nice to see where the peasants choose to spend their posts

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

This thread is a really handy shorthand to weed out all the forum dorks and weeds.

 

Helpful for sorting out whose opinions on football can easily be dismissed on the main board.

 

Good work virgins!

 

I find this post to be deeply offensive - true - but deeply offensive anyway.

 

The mere fact that some of us on here choose to waste our pointless lives watching 40 year old Doctor Who serials and wondering why 24th century science still can't cure Jean-Luc Picard of male pattern baldness is not necessarily proof of inoperable nerdness ...

 

... okay this may be strong circumstantial evidence, but it's not strictly proof in the legal sense you understand.

[Jonnyboy]

I find this post to be deeply offensive - true - but deeply offensive anyway.

 

The mere fact that some of us on here choose to waste our pointless lives watching 40 year old Doctor Who serials and wondering why 24th century science still can't cure Jean-Luc Picard of male pattern baldness is not necessarily proof of inoperable nerdness ...

 

... okay this may be strong circumstantial evidence, but it's not strictly proof in the legal sense you understand.

 

Ill have you know MPB is not a disease to be cured!

[Whitey Grandad]

Ill have you know MPB is not a disease to be cured!

 

I always thought he shaved his head so as to look cool.

[Jonnyboy]

I always thought he shaved his head so as to look cool.

 

Chapel End Charlie?

[Saint J 77]

This thread is a really handy shorthand to weed out all the forum dorks and weeds.

 

Helpful for sorting out whose opinions on football can easily be dismissed on the main board.

 

Good work virgins!

 

LOL, great post, ok I'll bite... congratulations on your very outdated stereotype of ALL Sci Fi fans.

 

Science Fiction has crept on to a lot of the main TV channels today. Mainly because there is obviously a demand for it. Also the quality of the story telling and production of the programmes with a Sci Fi themes are high. Sci Fi is pretty much main stream these days, so the idea that ALL Sci Fi fans are nerds and geeks is laughable. But if we are doing stereotypes, I usually consider people who dislike ALL Sci Fi dull and majorly lacking in imagination.

 

You're probably a EastEnders or Coronation fan aren't you? Or worse Still an X Factor or Big Brother fan? Now that in my opinion is dull TV. Soaps and reality TV doesn't really require engaging your brain while watching. So, IF I was stereotyping, then I would say ALL the people who watch those shows are brain dead. Now that was only if I was stereotyping. Which I am not going to do here, right now.

 

Mind you if we all liked the same thing the world would be a boring place, so each to their own...Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations.

Edited 7 June, 2014 by Saint J 77

[Grey Crab]

Shut up you nerd and give us your dinner money.