shurlock Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Looks like the tip of the iceberg-if we're strengthening at CM and LB, suggests there's still plenty of activity to come-1 or maybe 2 CBs, a GK, a RM -all of which are priority areas- and possibly a RB and even a LM. Even after Buttner signs, reckon we'll see at least four more new faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 A good player from a crap league who didn't cut it in the premier league last time. I am not sure he is the second coming like most of you lot but at least he was cheap...... In fact, he didn't fail in the premier league. That's just a silly non-educated comment to make. He was outstanding for Villa as a young player, and as keeps being mentioned, he was being linked to some decent clubs during that time. Villa fans were stunned and shocked that he was sold for £6m to Fulham, but Fulham didn't see the best of him because they had a clueless manager in charge and then followed it with a succession of managers, that's not an environment to thrive really. He's gone to Rangers, who are one of the biggest clubs in Britain and became their captain on the pitch. That's not to be shrugged at, and for a club of our level and where we've come from, this is a pretty impressive deal to make. Sometimes I wonder just who some fans expect us to sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigthesaint Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Wanted by Man United? Care to try and prove that? Only a rumour but in the Manchester Evening News in 2005 so they could well of been http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/189/189581_rumour_mill_reds_linked_with_davis.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=230518&st=40 What a hilarious read. Sweaty jocks. Nice spot, that is genuinely funny. Deluded tw*ts, no wonder they're in the shlt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Only a rumour but in the Manchester Evening News in 2005 so they could well of been http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/189/189581_rumour_mill_reds_linked_with_davis.html LOL @ some of the Man Utd fans comments in that thread, they haven't got a scooby have they? In reply to Norbert Bugeja, Gzira Malta - Ronaldo is not playing because he is going backwards, when did he last score a goal (one that was relavant) or even delevered the created a goal, Hardly ever, I would sell him tommorow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 In fact, he didn't fail in the premier league. That's just a silly non-educated comment to make. He was outstanding for Villa as a young player, and as keeps being mentioned, he was being linked to some decent clubs during that time. Villa fans were stunned and shocked that he was sold for £6m to Fulham, but Fulham didn't see the best of him because they had a clueless manager in charge and then followed it with a succession of managers, that's not an environment to thrive really. He's gone to Rangers, who are one of the biggest clubs in Britain and became their captain on the pitch. That's not to be shrugged at, and for a club of our level and where we've come from, this is a pretty impressive deal to make. Sometimes I wonder just who some fans expect us to sign. Quite. I saw a comment that said Guthrie would have been a better option. The argument being 'you don't have to be very good to play for Glasgow Rangers'. So a UEFA Cup finalist and international captain with World Cup and European Championship qualification experience, isn't as good as a the odd season with Newcastle and Bolton in the top flight? Do me a favour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Quite. I saw a comment that said Guthrie would have been a better option. The argument being 'you don't have to be very good to play for Glasgow Rangers'. So a UEFA Cup finalist and international captain with World Cup and European Championship qualification experience, isn't as good as a the odd season with Newcastle and Bolton in the top flight? Do me a favour... Exactly, just because he played in the SPL he's been shrugged at. I'd bet you any money that Rangers (or even Celtic) would have beaten us last year (when they still had their team). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Exactly what we needed and pleased at a bargain although imagine he had a decent sign on free. Would he not? More bodies in midfield so I would imagine pushes Hammond out which is good. Appreciate Dean's efforts but nowhere near PL quality. Don't know much about this guy but leaders are one thing we do need. Especially in the middle! Good work Saints & I'm with CB on all his comments. It's odd Cortese is so rabid about controlling & limiting information. It's like some meglomaniac dictator. We've had that. Let it go. The Ellliott Ward affair was embarrassing. As for the club keeping tight lipped on transfers, it feels as if they're slightly more relaxed about it although it's clearly wise not to alert opponents but I guess money talks...wages, fees, or otherwise. Or, maybe we're just happy to let rumours fly which WERE correctly out there weeks back. Some people so vehemently defend pointless points on here, it's perturbing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yateleysaint Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 My Rangers supporting mate says Davis is a very good player. Maybe that's why the Rangers fans are so put out about his departure. Let's hope he's more Niemi than McCann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 I can't believe it's not Buttner..... With Rangers fans input. http://wp.me/p1mFFL-oR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 I can't believe it's not Buttner..... With Rangers fans input. http://wp.me/p1mFFL-oR Thanks for that, really good to hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 A good signing and a welcome one coming close on the heels of Buttner and at a time when some were beginning to fret at the apparent inactivity. As usual, we quietly beaver away in the background, keeping quiet about our targets until it is a done deal. This signing and others are speculated about in the press, but whereas some would seemingly prefer us to comment openly about every rumour, I'm happier that we go about our business in a more professional manner. As for the Rangers' fans comments about his ability, he must really have been poor to have been their captain, eh? Typical over-reaction from thick fans who immediately brand a player poor because they acted reasonably, preferring to play in the Premiership, rather than the lower Scottish leagues. One of them said this:- Southampton, in all honesty Rangers have more chance of winning the CL than Southampton getting into it. As unlikely as he sees it that we will get into the Champions league, I see it as being more unlikely that they will get back to the position of having sufficiently good players to win the CL, even when they eventually get back there, based largely on the fact that historically there have only been two teams in Scotland head and shoulders above the rest, but nevertheless only of a standard probably of our second division. So when they show their disdain that Davis has only moved to relegation favourites Southampton, they can reflect that during the coming season, he will be playing in a league comprising teams who play in the Champions League, instead of the lower divisions of Scottish football. But if we were to have signed their entire team, the one they had before administration, would they then think that we were relegation fodder, or would they believe instead that we were good enough to play in the CL? Probably the latter, demonstrating the level of delusion that they have over the prowess of their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 I don't understand Rangers anger. Good servants for the club are leaving because the other option is poor wages and an absolutely horrendous standard of football. Div 1 or 3 could mean playing well below conference level. In fact div 3 there is like pub football. Why would international footballers put up with that? They didn't financially mismanage the club did they. If I were a Rangers fan I'd wish them well, expect a new team and youth players, and start rebuilding. Yep exactly. Davis is 27, so pretty much at a peak age for a footballer. Do Rangers fans really expect him to stay with them while they kick around in the 4th tier of Scottish football? While he's getting overtures from Premier League clubs, where he can face up against the likes of Man United, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs etc etc etc on a weekly basis? True delusion if that's what they expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Very happy with this Welcome onboard Steven, an absolute bargain on a free - was very good when he was at Aston Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 I don't understand Rangers anger. Good servants for the club are leaving because the other option is poor wages and an absolutely horrendous standard of football. Div 1 or 3 could mean playing well below conference level. In fact div 3 there is like pub football. Why would international footballers put up with that? They didn't financially mismanage the club did they. If I were a Rangers fan I'd wish them well, expect a new team and youth players, and start rebuilding. Their anger should be aimed at the previous administration that got them into their financial mess in the first place, the administrators, Greene and the other rival bidders that let them go into liquidation before picking over the carcass. They are as deluded as the lot down the road having a go at the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Premiership experience, leadership ability, 27 years old, excellent signing. This is how I see it. A leader on the pitch which is what we lacked at times last season. Good signing and better than what we have, not the back up some on here are always demanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Their anger should be aimed at the previous administration that got them into their financial mess in the first place, the administrators, Greene and the other rival bidders that let them go into liquidation before picking over the carcass. They are as deluded as the lot down the road having a go at the players. Considering their ad-bot on that site has a message of hate towards their owners I think their ire is targeted firmly at Murray and White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 I can't believe it's not Buttner..... With Rangers fans input. http://wp.me/p1mFFL-oR Nice job, as usual mate. Good to read that verdict on him. Really pleased with this deal. Sounds like he's a quality player. Worth a mention that Alan Nixon proved his stripes on this deal too. He's patchy at the best of times, but has been right more than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Cracking signing for us. Absolute bargain on a free and should go straight into the team to give us a bit of experience. Can see him and Morgan starting the first game. Could this also mean we see a bit more of Cork on the right, played well there against Coventry. One question though, if we could have had Guthrie would people have rather had him? For me no, but interested to hear what others think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 In quoting to ITK Knobs on here, I was referring to so called persons who make out they have insider information from the club, the management, the players of Southampton Football Club. I wasn't referring to those members posting and quoting newspaper articles, other club insiders. Everyone knows these rumors have been rift for weeks along with other rumors, but nothing has come from SFC itself. The club is as tight on leaks as it's been on all information since Cortese was in charge, till it's a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Cracking signing for us. Absolute bargain on a free and should go straight into the team to give us a bit of experience. Can see him and Morgan starting the first game. Could this also mean we see a bit more of Cork on the right, played well there against Coventry. One question though, if we could have had Guthrie would people have rather had him? For me no, but interested to hear what others think. Maybe we'll us ether diamond more with MS holding, Cork and Davis in the middle and Lalana at the tip? Would certainly make use of our best midfielders and give Lallana the central role that has been mentioned on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 28k a week.... in modern premiership terms, that's really not much.... Yes, some records must be breaking. Absolutely...1.5 million a year on a 3 year contract would make a 4.5 million player with his wages all paid. In reality there will have been a signing on fee etc as well but it's still excellent business...remembering that we lost Surman and the others when we had our troubles so nice to balance the scales a little in our ongoing good karma spell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 One question though, if we could have had Guthrie would people have rather had him? For me no, but interested to hear what others think. Davis has way more about him than Guthrie, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Great signing but it still seems odd to see him pictured with a shirt that is just not a Southampton Shirt. Much as the club may say its selling well and fans all love it, I can't help thinking it will have a short life-span. I'd still like to see Davis in Red & White stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Looks like the tip of the iceberg-if we're strengthening at CM and LB, suggests there's still plenty of activity to come-1 or maybe 2 CBs, a GK, a RM -all of which are priority areas- and possibly a RB and even a LM. Even after Buttner signs, reckon we'll see at least four more new faces. Buttner has been playing very well in the left midfield and as he is also a left defender he will get back and help so i think AL will either go to the right midfield where we struggled last season or we have a different formation in mind, possible 451/433 type. Don't forget AL does not cover fox as good as he should so getting Buttner gives us options at LB and LM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Good experienced signing, will improve squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Chuffed to bits with this signing. Davis is a well established, experienced and hard working professional with excellent leadership ability- And he is still only 27. He will be a great asset to us and will no doubt help Morgan and Corky settle into Prem class too. Welcome Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Ex villa player of the year and approaching peak years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Pleased with this signing. Any chance he will be team captain, do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Pleased with this signing. Any chance he will be team captain, do you think? I think he will be. He's been captain of Rangers and is captain of his country. he's definitely the sort of leader we lacked at times last season. I expect him to be made captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 A 'Villa' mate tells me that we've signed a genuine 'committed' player who will give his all for Saints.Welcome Steve. look forward to seeing you in a Saints shirt soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 (edited) Let's be honest if any player had done to us what the judas traitors have done to Rangers we'd be up in arms. These players could have signed a contract and then gone for a fee, but chose not to. This is symptomatic of the greed and disloyalty of modern footballers. I think their comments about him being a poor captain are just sour grapes, and take great pleasure of one comment saying he couldve signed for a bigger club. I think we've got ourselves a good player here, although i'm not impressed with his loyalty as he'd do the same to us as he's done to them and jump ship at the first opportunity if we go down. Welcome back to the mercenaary EPL! http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=230518 Two of the more sensible posts.. The opinion amongst Northern Ireland fans who I have spoke too, and on NI forums, is that they are glad both Davis and Lafferty are both moving to clubs where they are playing against a better standard. Davis was good enough for the premiership before he went to Rangers, but there is the belief that he stagnated with the lack of quality opposition and there is Doubt over is ability to slot back into a Premiership team. Lafferty, where you like him or hate him, has actually done decently for NI. 8 goals in 31 appearances, the main thing that annoys most NI fans is his attitude, if he has his head screwed on and was a bit more lucky when it comes to his injury record then he could have played about 50 times already and more than likely scored about 20 goals or so. and Davis is capable of playing for a better club in the Premiership than Southampton. In saying that I couldn't care how he does. Edited 7 July, 2012 by dune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Cracking signing for us. Absolute bargain on a free and should go straight into the team to give us a bit of experience. Can see him and Morgan starting the first game. Could this also mean we see a bit more of Cork on the right, played well there against Coventry. One question though, if we could have had Guthrie would people have rather had him? For me no, but interested to hear what others think. Certainly agree that Cork looked very promising on the right against Cov and well worth looking at that again seeing as we are so weak there. Also Cork was often not outstanding in the central role last year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 Buttner has been playing very well in the left midfield and as he is also a left defender he will get back and help so i think AL will either go to the right midfield where we struggled last season or we have a different formation in mind, possible 451/433 type. Don't forget AL does not cover fox as good as he should so getting Buttner gives us options at LB and LM. Plus Fox is too often caught out out of position and actually doesn't support AL very well at all - Sorry, I just can't take to Fox - not convinced at all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 (edited) Great signing but it still seems odd to see him pictured with a shirt that is just not a Southampton Shirt. Much as the club may say its selling well and fans all love it, I can't help thinking it will have a short life-span. I'd still like to see Davis in Red & White stripes. :rolleyes: F_ucking hell do I need to get the Violin out? Edited 7 July, 2012 by BlakeySFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 7 July, 2012 Share Posted 7 July, 2012 A 'Villa' mate tells me that we've signed a genuine 'committed' player who will give his all for Saints.Welcome Steve. look forward to seeing you in a Saints shirt soon. This is basically what I've been told this evening from a Rangers supporting mate. In his words, box to box, totally committed and a natural leader. He also said that he doesn't score many goals, but links up well with attackers. Great engine also, and will keep running to final whistle. Could finally be the midfield general we've been crying out for. Great signing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 8 July, 2012 Share Posted 8 July, 2012 (edited) Is he technically ginger or what? I've been examining the photo evidences on google and at the moment I've been unable to make a final ruling. Till this is settled we need to keep him off the promotional literature. We don't want to scare off the St. Mary's hotties who'd been attracted to the club by Morgans and Corks. They is valuable customers! STEVEN P. DAVIS Wanted for questioning related to suspected ginger offences, possible use of hair dye to try and disguise duracell tendencies? Edited 8 July, 2012 by Bearsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 July, 2012 Share Posted 8 July, 2012 (edited) * Exactly what we needed and pleased at a bargain although imagine he had a decent sign on free. Would he not? More bodies in midfield so ** I would imagine pushes Hammond out which is good. Appreciate Dean's efforts but nowhere near PL quality. Don't know much about this guy but leaders are one thing we do need. Especially in the middle! Good work Saints & I'm with CB on all his comments. *** It's odd Cortese is so rabid about controlling & limiting information. It's like some meglomaniac dictator. We've had that. Let it go. The Ellliott Ward affair was embarrassing. ****As for the club keeping tight lipped on transfers, it feels as if they're slightly more relaxed about it although it's clearly wise not to alert opponents but I guess money talks...wages, fees, or otherwise. Or, maybe we're just happy to let rumours fly which WERE correctly out there weeks back. Some people so vehemently defend pointless points on here, it's perturbing! * Of course, he's having to kick-start his career in a new club, he's bound to have had " a sweetner " when he signed, as there was no % of a transfer fee. ** There's the start of an interesting thread on Hammond just below this one.if you want to contribute. ***Cortese comes from a business area where secrecy and confidentiality are the most important factors. I agree it's a bit frustrating not having club gossip to mull over, but I also appreciate his tight-lipped manner is a part of the man's persona. ****This is a two-edged sword - isn't it?. By not confirming-or denying - interest in a player we are keeping everyone guessing and maybe distracting attention from other " real targets " ....whereas going out to the media and discussing interest when it isn't even a done deal is alerting other clubs to players that we might lose if " big name " clubs suddenly come into the equation. The background to the deal for T. Lee proved that our "tight-lipped " approach does work. Very few people knew anything about it beforehand. Whereas a Bristol City director was quoted as saying they'd had NO OFFERS for Maynard from Saints, or anyone else (despite media madness on the subject) - prior to WHam buying him, which was a good one to leave alone, as his over-priced move to Upton Park proved him to be a " fairly ordinary " striker - on last seasons showing. As for the Elliott Ward "non deal " ... I suspect that there was some "personal factor " about the player that didn't fit our "model ". Anyway he (Ward) didn't seem to have distinguished himself much last season...so maybe... it was good outcome anyway. Edited 8 July, 2012 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 July, 2012 Share Posted 8 July, 2012 Ex villa player of the year and approaching peak years... which sounds great....... providing he hasn't peaked already ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 8 July, 2012 Share Posted 8 July, 2012 which sounds great....... providing he hasn't peaked already ! At 27!!! Glad Lawrie didnt think that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 8 July, 2012 Share Posted 8 July, 2012 Is he technically ginger or what? I've been examining the photo evidences on google and at the moment I've been unable to make a final ruling. Till this is settled we need to keep him off the promotional literature. We don't want to scare off the St. Mary's hotties who'd been attracted to the club by Morgans and Corks. They is valuable customers! STEVEN P. DAVIS Wanted for questioning related to suspected ginger offences, possible use of hair dye to try and disguise duracell tendencies? Officially, he is strawberry blonde... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 8 July, 2012 Share Posted 8 July, 2012 Dat is what Gingers is always saying! I'm always smiling politely but insides I'm cracking ribs at how disgustingly ginger they is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 8 July, 2012 Share Posted 8 July, 2012 Don't know much about the guy but if he's captained Rangers and played international football it sounds like a decent signing in a position that we badly needed some strength. We haven't had a really good box to box midfielder since Quashie so pleased to have filled that role. Chaplow is attacking and Dean\Morgan are defensive but no-one really covers the whole pitch. Get a top quality GK and then a quality CH and we'll have enough to survive IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 8 July, 2012 Share Posted 8 July, 2012 Pretty average player I would have thought but as I have never seen him or heard of him what do I know Only time will tell he may become very good who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 brian mclauchlin @BBCBMcLauchlin Rangers have refused International clearance for the transfers of Davis, Lafferty, Ness, Whittaker and Naismith. more soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 Nice one rangrers, bloody idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 This could get messy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 brian mclauchlin @BBCBMcLauchlin Rangers have refused International clearance for the transfers of Davis, Lafferty, Ness, Whittaker and Naismith. more soon I still don't think they have a legal leg to stand on. These players are free to join who they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 brian mclauchlin @BBCBMcLauchlin The players new club request clearance from their own FA. They contact SFA who request OK from club. This has been refused by Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 9 July, 2012 Share Posted 9 July, 2012 I still don't think they have a legal leg to stand on. These players are free to join who they want. This. All players will surely have sought extensive legal advice before leaving, as would their signing clubs. Interesting to note that Fleck isn't listed as one of those players, Coventry being the one club who actually agreed a deal with Rangers for the player (no signing fee but an agreement for a share of future transfer revenues). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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