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James Milner will line-up for England against Ukraine in tonight's Euro 2012 clash.

 

The Manchester City player has been given the nod ahead of Theo Walcott by manager Roy Hodgson.

 

Walcott has been troubled by a hamstring injury, and although he made an explosive impact in the previous game against Sweden on Friday Hodgson has decided not to risk him.

 

England: Hart; Johnson, Terry, Lescott, Cole; Milner, Parker, Gerrard, Young; Rooney, Welbeck

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For once Rooney, and all the others who think they can pick themselves for the team, know they can't. Roy Hodgson is imo the best manager we've had in years. Let's do the job tonight then dispatch the Spaniards to the raptuous applause of the people of Gibraltar!

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For once Rooney, and all the others who think they can pick themselves for the team, know they can't. Roy Hodgson is imo the best manager we've had in years.

 

Apart from the fact Rooney is picked as soon as he is available, despite both strikers performing well and scoring in the last game?

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Apart from the fact Rooney is picked as soon as he is available, despite both strikers performing well and scoring in the last game?

 

But do you really think he'll be picked again if he doesn't perform or behaves like an idiot? (btw i do realise he is an idiot)

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urrrgh Milner. Was it any coincidence that we looked more threatening once he was subbed and replaced by Theo? Nope.

 

He's a hard worker, but a clogger. Doesn't do much and is never a wide player, way too slow and predicable to do that.

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England will make hard work of this, but get through. France will win comfortably. England will play Spain in the quarters.

 

IMO.

 

Or we lose and France lose, but France lose by lots of goals. We then come 2nd to Ukraine. (I think).

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Apart from the fact Rooney is picked as soon as he is available, despite both strikers performing well and scoring in the last game?

 

I agree Carroll had a good game in the last match but I think it was always written in the stars that Rooney would play tonight. Perhaps had Carroll bagged a hattrick against Sweden then it'd have been hard to drop him, but Rooney offers a creativity that Carroll doesn't. Few England players are a cemented choice. Cole, Hart, Rooney and Gerrard are the exceptions. (With possibly Terry, although if I were the England manager, he wouldn't be so certain of a starting spot.)

 

I can't watch this tonight, thank-you work, but I'll be listening in on the wireless. Ukraine will be a tough nut to crack in their home environment, but under Roy I happen to think we'll win this by two clear goals. (While hoping Sweden do us a favour against France.) I'd much rather play Italy than Spain, but after seeing Spain make hard work of Croatia, either are beatable on a good day.

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urrrgh Milner. Was it any coincidence that we looked more threatening once he was subbed and replaced by Theo? Nope.

 

He's a hard worker, but a clogger. Doesn't do much and is never a wide player, way too slow and predicable to do that.

 

I can only imagine that Hodgson doesn't think Walcott has "90-minute fitness" at the moment, so he's likely keeping him for the "impact sub" role.

 

However, we almost certainly need to win and outscore France in order to avoid Spain so I thought he might have used AOC and Theo in combination rather than Milner.

 

Just when we stop looking like the old England we look like reverting back to it again.

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if we win 2-0

france win 3-2

we win group on FIFA rankings

 

What would happen if we lost 3-2, and France lost 2-0? Would we still go through on 4pts on Fifa Rankings? I assume that's how they'll work it.

 

You'd then have...

 

Ukraine - 6

England 4

France 4

Sweden -3

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Rooney has 17 goals in 20 games when played alongside Welbeck.

 

Still can't understand Milner's inclusion, he was hopeless against France and we looked so much better against Sweden when he'd gone off. Yet more confusion all around that 'hard working' means 'good performer'. It is not the case.

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Rooney has 17 goals in 20 games when played alongside Welbeck.

 

Still can't understand Milner's inclusion, he was hopeless against France and we looked so much better against Sweden when he'd gone off. Yet more confusion all around that 'hard working' means 'good performer'. It is not the case.

 

English mentality, lots of strong tackles, harrying, hoofing and running around like an idiot whilst not actually achieving much. Sod being able to control the ball and beat a player with pace and skill.

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if we win 2-0

france win 3-2

we win group on FIFA rankings

 

Correct. Or England 3-1 and France 4-3, etc.

 

For once the FIFA rankings are useful. :)

 

Not a huge issue when it's 1st vs. 2nd at stake. But if we lose 1-0, and France loses 3-1, then France would be eliminated by FIFA rankings.

 

In that case I predict le excrément will hit the fan. :D

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I can see this being another close game, much like the game against Sweden. Hopefully with a better result though so we avoid Spain. Although if we do get through I'm not sure Italy will be any easier. Not sure how effective Rooney will be tonight due to lack of recent game time.

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ITV's studio in Poland looks like the demonstration garden you get in a Homebase or B&Q.

 

:lol:

 

So true.... Badgerhead Chiles and friends are rocking the garden furniture. I wonder if there is a cheap jacuzzi behind camera.

 

I'm actually half-waiting for a waiter to turn up with their drinks...

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