Micky Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 I have it on good authority that the club also plans to dramatically increase the number of toilets at St Marys, due to the fact that Tommy Forecast will now be our first choice keeper this coming season. You heard it here first. LMFAO :lol: LUVIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 just imagine how much better this could be if we had our fan on the board When it happens, we need a slogan. Something like 'We've got our club back'. They should also go (all expenses paid) on the pre-season tour, whilst the media team will have to keep someone back in Southampton. It's only fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 just imagine how much better this could be if we had our fan on the board A fan on the board...? Really - I nominate Turkish, he would be rival NC in grooming, dress sence and intelligence. Perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 (edited) just imagine how much better this could be if we had our fan on the board You can guarantee this wouldn't happen.. When it happens, we need a slogan. Something like 'We've got our club back'. They should also go (all expenses paid) on the pre-season tour, whilst the media team will have to keep someone back in Southampton. It's only fair. .. and a verified, ITK Twitter account they can use to tease us with. Nah... actually, I'm quite happy with the Cortesedrome! Keep up the goodwork, Don! Edited 19 June, 2012 by Crab Lungs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 19 June, 2012 Author Share Posted 19 June, 2012 You can guarantee this wouldn't happen.. I'm sure they stand by their choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 Love it, fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 hoping the exterior is like the Allianz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harwellsaint Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 As opposed to getting one of the development squad to have a quick go? Joking aside is there anymore text to give this some context? Just a bit of an odd thing to put out there really. think i started a thread awile ago about expanding our ground, when are you going to start insulting this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 Nah... actually, I'm quite happy with the Cortesedrome! Keep up the goodwork, Don! Again, as I said on another thread, we need this picture... On a sign like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 Again, as I said on another thread, we need this picture... On a sign like this... Oh my God... that's brilliant, never seen that picture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 another cracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 An obscure name for a sponsor there on the Steve Fletcher stand, 'Your Brand Here'. Wonder what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 An obscure name for a sponsor there on the Steve Fletcher stand, 'Your Brand Here'. Wonder what they do. Print the match programmes and make the pre-match music playlists for Brighton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 just imagine how much better this could be if we had our fan on the board Um Pahars must angrily push those coins into the stadium car park ticket machine cursing Corteses name for denying him his rightful place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 maybe we should recommend a good skin care product..? He reads the mong boards, he'll see our tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 Is that THE watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 i have it on good authority that these are purely just the training facilities - and that we should get really excited when they reveal the real staduim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stud mark of doom Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 I'm confused, is this one of the images on the DVD? If so, can't wait till mine turns up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 Like the conceptual drawings, quite a European feel to it with the space around the ground etc (which will please Dune). NO idea what the time frame is, either for planning in principle or detailed proposals, but thats surely not the point? This is simply about demonstrating the thinking and long term aspiration which can only be a good thing. Without wanting to start that whole impossible argument about timing again, its should maybe at least be pointed out that NC does not normally like to hang around. Although its impossible to get most to accept, you can make sensible business cases for both a long term plan and a more rapid approach... NC will decide, but nice to see that these initial concepts provide some individuality for the stadium and gives us a flavour of the aestetic they have in mind. Pretty sure they have more than conceptual drawings, not the finished detail but sufficient to put a good costing against. Cortese has laid out his intentions, after 2 years and looking established in the Premier would do all the market research and decide yes or no. Not 100% given because funding will have to be found and I would not guarantee the Liebherrs backing this, yet other alternatives could well present themselves. Pretty sure the concept has been passed through the Southampton city council where they commented everything would be done to keep the stadium within the city. By that I understood that any planning restrictions for the increased gate would not be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 In other news, Pompey have just announced similar plans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 June, 2012 Share Posted 19 June, 2012 Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 I find this a little bizarre, why would they release images but no information at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 I find this a little bizarre, why would they release images but no information at all? Its a big tease isn't it? Well at least its given us something to talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 I find this a little bizarre, why would they release images but no information at all? Perhaps because it's non-committal and ties the club to no promises. SFC have rightly avoided coming out with ridiculous statements akin to "we should be building a new stadium, and we should be doing it right now". The build-it-now brigade will look into it all very differently, for sure, but it's an optimistic and vague roadmap for the future based upon factors which haven't yet been achieved (which is all a potential stadium expansion has ever been up to now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 I don't really buy into the vagueness, these plans are obviously quite specific in terms of design, capacity and facilities. Im surprised more has not been said and no press comments. I want to know more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 I don't expect them to build it next week mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 I find this a little bizarre, why would they release images but no information at all? Yet another slap in the face for our blind fans, that's what it is mate. This should be on saintsplayer at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 In other news, Pompey have just announced similar plans... You mean they've abandoned their plan to build this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 Who are the 'build it now brigade' ? Previous debates have always been about whether we build... not when we build... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 Build it now!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 Who are the 'build it now brigade' ? Previous debates have always been about whether we build... not when we build... Without wishing to dredge up this age old argument (because its tedious in the extreme); I'm yet to encounter more than maybe 2 or 3 people who have said we should rule out the possibility of extending the stadium. The vast majority on here seem to agree that there is definite scope for an increase in capacity. The debate has always been into whether there is enough evidence already to justify extending right now (or whether we need to wait and see what our Premier League attendances are first), and then what the potential new capacity of an extended stadium should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 Looks like they've put a giant hoolie fence or anti bomb mesh round the stadium, not sure thats an improvement tbh. Any idea what the new building is for? Doesnt look like a hotel. It's the West Ham supporters corral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/9771448.Saints_to_revamp_St_Mary_s_/? And there we go. Im surprised its not a 'Daily Echo EXCLUSIVE'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/9771448.Saints_to_revamp_St_Mary_s_/? And there we go. Im surprised its not a 'Daily Echo EXCLUSIVE'. Not sure why you have such an aggressive tone. The Echo are allowed to report the news you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 Yea itchen_dan, calm down. Such levels of aggression are uncalled for, I think you should seek some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 Saints are unlikely to consider putting any expensive plans in motion unless they can safely establish themselves as a high-flying Premier League club. They would also need to be confident of a season ticket base that is both big enough and loyal enough to warrant the initial costs and sustain the necessary crowds to make an expansion viable. While attendances last season were impressive, Saints’ average St Mary’s crowd was still nearly 6,000 below the ground’s current capacity. Oh God, MLG is going to have a hissy fit when he reads that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 But will the players show genuine passion towards the plans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 Without wishing to dredge up this age old argument (because its tedious in the extreme); I'm yet to encounter more than maybe 2 or 3 people who have said we should rule out the possibility of extending the stadium. The vast majority on here seem to agree that there is definite scope for an increase in capacity. The debate has always been into whether there is enough evidence already to justify extending right now (or whether we need to wait and see what our Premier League attendances are first), and then what the potential new capacity of an extended stadium should be. We've only ever discussed future plans and aspirations, only your little head somehow interpreted that as meaning we expect it to happen next week. There has clearly been a communication failure. It's quite clear what Cortese's future plans for SFC are, and that obviously depends on demand and what happens on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 We've only ever discussed future plans and aspirations, only your little head somehow interpreted that as meaning we expect it to happen next week. Utter rubbish. At least one poster in particular was vehemently of the opinion, when posed the question, that stadium work should begin immediately if we have genuinely got lofty ambiotions for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 It's alright for the bloke at the back, he got an acting job on Corrie and could afford to throw away his season ticket!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 Mr Kraken, I think you've said before you can see a 40k stadium for Saints at some point in the future. It is hard to tell as you can't see inside the stadium clearly, but what do you think the images look like in terms of capacity? Kingsland, Northam and Chapel all have been expanded, so I would think there is more than just 8k seats added. Those images look more like 45k (possibly more). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 Utter rubbish. At least one poster in particular was vehemently of the opinion, when posed the question, that stadium work should begin immediately if we have genuinely got lofty ambiotions for the club. So out of 3,000 SWT members one person expresses a view like that and you are happy to claim that "the vast majority on here seem to agree that there is definite scope for an increase in capacity". Try reading what people write instead of putting your own gloss on it. Here's a starter for you. If Saints do well and tickets are cheap we could sell out 40,000. If Saints bump along the bottom and ticket prices are high we wont sell out SMS. Easy really isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 So out of 3,000 SWT members one person expresses a view like that and you are happy to claim that "the vast majority on here seem to agree that there is definite scope for an increase in capacity". Try reading what people write instead of putting your own gloss on it. Here's a starter for you. If Saints do well and tickets are cheap we could sell out 40,000. If Saints bump along the bottom and ticket prices are high we wont sell out SMS. Easy really isnt it? Where have I said the vast majority? I think you're the one who maybe needs to try reading properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 Where have I said the vast majority? I think you're the one who maybe needs to try reading properly. Cant remember your own posts from this morning. Poor old boy. FYI post #183 at 9.59am "Without wishing to dredge up this age old argument (because its tedious in the extreme); I'm yet to encounter more than maybe 2 or 3 people who have said we should rule out the possibility of extending the stadium. The vast majority on here seem to agree that there is definite scope for an increase in capacity. The debate has always been into whether there is enough evidence already to justify extending right now (or whether we need to wait and see what our Premier League attendances are first), and then what the potential new capacity of an extended stadium should be". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 Mr Kraken, I think you've said before you can see a 40k stadium for Saints at some point in the future. It is hard to tell as you can't see inside the stadium clearly, but what do you think the images look like in terms of capacity? Kingsland, Northam and Chapel all have been expanded, so I would think there is more than just 8k seats added. Those images look more like 45k (possibly more). I think I posted this on the other thread. as you say hard to tell, but I'm happy to give it a stab. Basically, my benchmark would be the old expansions possible when first building St. Marys, which was a potential extra 8,000 on the Kingsland, and 4,000 each on the Northam and Chapel. From the design, it's very difficult to get a banchmark on just how much bigger the stands are going to be. For a start, the exit points are not really in the correct place (in reality they're much lower down). In any case: I'd suggest the Kingsland is probably not far off the 8,000 extra seats. I'd guess that the Chapel and the Northam don't actually provide a huge amount of extra seats. Certainly not the 4,000 possible if the stand went round at the same level as the top of the Kingsland. In the corners you can actually see a significant step up from the ends to the side. So I'd guess at maybe only an extra 1,000 per end. So probably a capacity of around 42,000 maybe. Like I say it depends how many extra seats we can get in the Kingsland. There seems to be a new "skin" to the stadium, so that could potentially limit the numbers. We also may look to put in corporate boxes, which again could potentially cut down on numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 Sounds like almost everyone is agreed there is scope for expansion at some point in the future. Only question is what the trigger criteria are for kicking it off. 1 year in the prem? 5 years? 10 years? UEFA cup? etc... The only criteria that matter are Cortese's. However, one thing we do now know for sure (and not through fans' dinners etc) is that he does have a long term vision for expanding the ground... he wouldn't have allowed these pics to be released without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 Cant remember your own posts from this morning. Poor old boy. FYI post #183 at 9.59am "Without wishing to dredge up this age old argument (because its tedious in the extreme); I'm yet to encounter more than maybe 2 or 3 people who have said we should rule out the possibility of extending the stadium. The vast majority on here seem to agree that there is definite scope for an increase in capacity. The debate has always been into whether there is enough evidence already to justify extending right now (or whether we need to wait and see what our Premier League attendances are first), and then what the potential new capacity of an extended stadium should be". Ah yes, indeed I read your question wrongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 (edited) Ah yes, indeed I read your question wrongly. tbh its a pretty false argument. I doubt anybody who isnt a teenager thinks we can sell out a 40,000 capacity ground whilst near the bottom of the EPL. The only real argument is about how high Saints can go and what happens then - and no-one knows the answers to that. In the EPL success is usually directly linked to money. Maybe ML commited his entire fortune to emulating Man City (highly unlikely)- in which case CL in five years would be probable. Or maybe we will be cut off at the knees after this season and will do well to stay up. It largely all comes down to cash available at the end of the day and neither you me or 99.9% of the people posting here know the answer to that - its all speculation and so no post desrves the tedious mocking of a few knobs on here - especially when many of them are simply posted up by excited young fans. Edited 20 June, 2012 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 I'm sure IF anything does happen, as already posted, it will be phased and done over a period of years. But that shouldn't detract from the fact that there is quite obviously a "Vision". A drive and ambition to move forwards, in what appears to be all aspects of the club. Whilst it is easy to scoff at some peoples beliefs of where that could take us, the reality is the footballing side of things would need to be in top shape, to make those plans sustainable and that can only be good news for us fans. I was reading the comments from Cortese as to why he turned down AC Milan in favour of staying with us and how we have the potential to match anything they could do in the future and had he not enjoyed the (Fairly Incredible) success he has in such a short space of time with Saints, you would dismiss them out of hand (probably ****ing yourself laughing at the same time) as pure fantasy.... But his record, his actions and his ambitions, do allow you to get a little carried away and "wonder" quite what the future holds. Now before the bedwetters, get all excited; I don't think we will ever be comparble to AC Milan I don't think we will be playing Champions league anytime in my lifetime And a succesfull season will still be avoiding relegation. We have a fiercly ambitious CEO and well financed owners. If they were looking to "Get out" now would be the optimum time in terms of return on their investment, so if they are sticking around, my guess is they are taking it seriously. Add on to that my personal belief that football will change (More specifically the financial side of it) over the next decade or so and what seems such far fetched ideas of grandeur right now, might be more acheiveable in the future. :lol::lol::lol::lol: I didn't think there were still people around who believed the story that AC Milan had heard of NC let alone were after him. Well done sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 20 June, 2012 Share Posted 20 June, 2012 Without wishing to dredge up this age old argument (because its tedious in the extreme); I'm yet to encounter more than maybe 2 or 3 people who have said we should rule out the possibility of extending the stadium. The vast majority on here seem to agree that there is definite scope for an increase in capacity. The debate has always been into whether there is enough evidence already to justify extending right now (or whether we need to wait and see what our Premier League attendances are first), and then what the potential new capacity of an extended stadium should be. Eloquently and diplomatically put... but had it been a reasonable 'debate' there would have been no problem... it was the condecending and patronizing nature of those dismissing the idea that a reasonable business case could be made for BOTH wait and see and a more rapid approach meant that thread decended into the usual beatch fest.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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