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david in sweden

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Noticed that the Daily Star is running a story that Palace will bid / have bid 800K for Lee Barnard...

Pity I liked LB (when in good form) but going from L1 to Premier League after a missing season would make it hard for him to make the 25 squad.

IF true, may be a good solution for all parties concerned.

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Last season was a injury hit disappointment, but in the main he did well here and obviously this player still has a lot to offer. However you'd struggle to make a convincing case that he's Premier League quality, and in any case he's well down the pecking order here now.

 

So this transfer (or one like it) would seem like a good deal for both club and player.

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He is a top striker for league 1 and a good striker for the Champioship IMO. Put in some very good shifts for Saints but as said is down the pecking order now. Price seems high and Palace don't have that kind of money to spend without selling one of their prize assets eg Clyne or Zaha. If we are interested I am sure we would conclude the deal at the same time but then again i thought that with Arron, unless any deal is already done.

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He didn't get a chance to show what he could do in the Championship, but had he been fit when we were a little short in the striking dept may well have shown his worth and earned us some extra points. Don't think he'd make the grade in the Prem though so a move to Palace would be a good one for him. Good luck to him.

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We need to sell, he will get nowhere near our squad for this coming season and would be an excellent signing for a side like Palace.
My thoughts exactly. He's unlikely to get a look in at Saints and could end up a lot worse places than Palace, £800k would be a decent amount for him everything considered - This is from the Daily Star though.............
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Will be surprised if he goes for that much considering he is 5th choice striker and didn't he sign an improved contract at the beginning of last season?

 

Certainly would be good for him if he wants regular first team football rather than sitting in the reserves.

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Got worried for a second Tadanari Lee was back to Japan, but thankfully what we all knew was coming is finally happening.

 

Good luck to him if Palace is his destination, they could do with a hard working and determined chap upfront to compliment Scannell (especially if the pace of Zaha leaves the club). We let Connelly go, who gave much more in his limited appearances last season, so it's hardly a surprise that we can't have him kicking about the place being a reserves choice behind Lambert, Lee, Jay and Sharp.

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A league 1 striker at best, so genuinely stunned Palace are courting him which just shows their ambition for next season.

 

Brainless comment. When exactly did he have the opportunity to prove he was a decent championship striker? Exactly.

 

If fit and given a run in the team he will score goals in the Championship, not a doubt about it.

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Got worried for a second Tadanari Lee was back to Japan, but thankfully what we all knew was coming is finally happening.

 

Me too! Mods may want to change this to 'goodbye barnard' for those of us who are prone to panic...

 

I don't think there was ever much doubt that Lee Barnard would be going.

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Brainless comment. When exactly did he have the opportunity to prove he was a decent championship striker? Exactly.

 

If fit and given a run in the team he will score goals in the Championship, not a doubt about it.

 

Yep, I agree. Until his injury in our L1 promotion season he was arguably our best forward at the time. Good finisher and a good attitude. He'll make a decent Championship striker.

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Will be surprised if he goes for that much considering he is 5th choice striker and didn't he sign an improved contract at the beginning of last season?

 

Certainly would be good for him if he wants regular first team football rather than sitting in the reserves.

 

He did sign a new contract till 2014 in July 2011

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******** would palace pay £800k! He has goals in him, but Palace wouldn't pay that for someone who barely played last season. I do wish him luck for the future though.

 

800k is a snip if he stays fit.

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Obviously was not a 100% match fit but looked way off the pace whenever he featured last season.

£800k is a great price (for us) for a 28 year old with unproven championship ability -and there are plenty of people with more promising records who've failed to cut it in the championship.

I'd happily take £400-500k for the player.

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He got a fantastic reception at SMS last season when he started his warmup off the bench. Will be genuinely sorry to see him leave, but its a harsh world. He'll be remembered warmly for the L1 promotion season, along with DC.

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He got a fantastic reception at SMS last season when he started his warmup off the bench. Will be genuinely sorry to see him leave, but its a harsh world. He'll be remembered warmly for the L1 promotion season, along with DC.

 

Like him- thought he was very important to our revival just after NA joined and RL was suffering but also thought he was bit of a reverse guly for some of our lot.

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Eeek I thought this was a thread about Tadanari for a second!

 

Sadly there are always going to be casualties when a team gets promoted twice in two years. League One players are no longer good enough for the higher leagues. Barnard is a good striker, not amazing, but he knows where the goal is. I liked his work rate (a trait I liked in Harding too) but I always though he was a red card waiting to happen. With his injury worries and court case behind him, he'll do a club proud next season in the lower leagues, if that's Palace then good luck to them.

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Barnard plus money for Nathan Clyne ?

 

This

 

*Nathaniel

 

Except that Clyne, as I understand it, is out of contract so Palace can not negotiate on wher he goes.

 

There might be some 'compensation' due to Clyne's age so that may be a slight opportunity for us, but again, don't think we can enter into negotiations with payers going there until Clyne has signed.

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Shame on you David!. Since when does the Daily Star become a reliable source of information about players? I hate to see a decent guy like Lee get hacked to pieces and transferred out based on a crap bit of poor sports journalism. Don't any of you guys give a thought on what a player must think when trying to motivate himself for the time of his life, when he reads all the deckchair comments posted and based on absolutely nothing. David of the Daily Star might be a good handle to replace Sweden seeing we're back in the Premier League :(

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Shame on you David!. Since when does the Daily Star become a reliable source of information about players? I hate to see a decent guy like Lee get hacked to pieces and transferred out based on a crap bit of poor sports journalism. Don't any of you guys give a thought on what a player must think when trying to motivate himself for the time of his life, when he reads all the deckchair comments posted and based on absolutely nothing. David of the Daily Star might be a good handle to replace Sweden seeing we're back in the Premier League :(

 

I doubt Lee Barnard gives a sh*te what people post on here, to be frank.

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If this is true then it's gutting. He should be given way more of a chnace than he's had. Showed glimpses on being a fantastic player last season, got real pace and never stops running. I think he can cut it in the Prem, not many from that side of the world have so far (only Park) but he's shown he could.

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If this is true then it's gutting. He should be given way more of a chnace than he's had. Showed glimpses on being a fantastic player last season, got real pace and never stops running. I think he can cut it in the Prem, not many from that side of the world have so far (only Park) but he's shown he could.

 

We bought Lee Sharp for c. £2m and Jay Rod for £7m... plus we already have Lambert and Lee. Where is the place for Barnard... 5th striker?! I doubt he wants to do that and I imagine the club would rather have an academy player at 5th striker.

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We bought Lee Sharp for c. £2m and Jay Rod for £7m... plus we already have Lambert and Lee. Where is the place for Barnard... 5th striker?! I doubt he wants to do that and I imagine the club would rather have an academy player at 5th striker.

 

Obviously you weren't around when we were in the Premiership and injury robbed us of many players in the huge squad we had. Who's to tell that the club hasn't planned on shipping out another player before the season gets underway. Lee offers a lot if he's uninjured and has a good nose for goal.

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If this is true then it's gutting. He should be given way more of a chnace than he's had. Showed glimpses on being a fantastic player last season, got real pace and never stops running. I think he can cut it in the Prem, not many from that side of the world have so far (only Park) but he's shown he could.

 

This thread is about Barnard, not Tadanari Lee.

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Obviously you weren't around when we were in the Premiership and injury robbed us of many players in the huge squad we had. Who's to tell that the club hasn't planned on shipping out another player before the season gets underway. Lee offers a lot if he's uninjured and has a good nose for goal.

 

I was around(for the last few years anyways), been going since St. Mary's opened... but I just don't think he is up for the job!

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Obviously was not a 100% match fit but looked way off the pace whenever he featured last season.

£800k is a great price (for us) for a 28 year old with unproven championship ability -and there are plenty of people with more promising records who've failed to cut it in the championship.

I'd happily take £400-500k for the player.

Yet again I am so glad that fans on this forum don't negotiate our transfer fees! :rolleyes:

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We bought Lee Sharp for c. £2m and Jay Rod for £7m... plus we already have Lambert and Lee. Where is the place for Barnard... 5th striker?! I doubt he wants to do that and I imagine the club would rather have an academy player at 5th striker.

 

I'm sure you mean Billy Sharp - don't you?

 

but we will buy another striker (if /when Lee Barnard moves)...Five strikers may not be enough.

Redknapp (when at Spurs) bemoaned his injured-striker list last season when he had 5 top strikers, but found it hard to find two who were fit AND on form.

 

I agree with bringing on Academy prospects, but the last time I looked there was no outstanding goalscorer in the youth ranks.

A young striker wanting to get into the first team (especially in a Prem.side) will have needed to have scored 40 to 50+ goals in his Academy career, and although I agree there are some good prospects ...none of them has performed that well - even at youth level.

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Shame on you David!. Since when does the Daily Star become a reliable source of information about players? I hate to see a decent guy like Lee get hacked to pieces and transferred out based on a crap bit of poor sports journalism. Don't any of you guys give a thought on what a player must think when trying to motivate himself for the time of his life, when he reads all the deckchair comments posted and based on absolutely nothing. David of the Daily Star might be a good handle to replace Sweden seeing we're back in the Premier League :([/quote

 

 

Well the article was there for everyone to see ART, and although I deplore the tabloid journalism style-it surely has some source (even if it's a dubious one). There are worse contributions than this based only on twitter-gossip and the like in the HCDAJFU thread.

 

As I wrote earlier, Lee has had a run of bad luck in the last year or so, though few can deny his valuable contribution in our L1 promotion, but he played very little football last season and a step up to the Prem. seems a bit too much.

A transfer, or even a "loan-out" maybe more appropriate to help him find his form again, and to my mind at least - this seems a viable alternative.

 

Only time well tell where he'll be playing next season, but I know that historically-speaking ... few London-born players seem to find playing a satisfying career playing on the South coast, and rarely stay that long. He certainly wants to play again, but I don't see him as a Premier League regular - do you ?

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We have a 5th striker.

 

Guly.

 

Well for many he'd be 5th choice rather than 1st anywhere in the team.

 

Barnard is a good hard working goal scoring striker, who will do a great job for any team. IMHO in the PL however his first touch is not good enough to make up for a lack of "genuine" pace (unlike Lambert). Lee did a great job for us, but we will need better next season.

 

Good luck to him IF he moves and any team that gets him will be happy with him provided he can stay fit

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Yet again I am so glad that fans on this forum don't negotiate our transfer fees! :rolleyes:

 

How much is he worth? Of course, I'd try to convince a bulb like you he was worth £30m, doesn't mean I mean I'm going to get it (in your case it might be a bit different).

Serious point is would you keep a player who you have to pay premier league wages but has virtually zero chance of featuring? And what is the minimum price you would put on someone like that -it's called a reservation price in business- obviously hoping to get more?

Would I sniff at 500k? Definitely not (it's more than we reportedly got him for) and I don't think most sensible people would either.

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