DT Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 That's how much a chap on Radio 4 said the Premier League clubs will get as a result of the £3bn deal signed for TV etc rights by Sky and BT yesterday, a 73 per cent rise on the figure agreed last time. Wow. Thank god for promotion, because the rest of the leagues get nowt. What shall we spend it on? Subsidising tickets? New keeper? Better beer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Players wage demands will go up a disproportionate amount because of this, I get the feeling most clubs will end up out of pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 First off we need to stay up next season; this deal starts for 2013/14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 so much for the bubble bursting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 would of paid for Rob Green if we had offered him 70k a week ffs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Isn't this from next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Yes it is next year. But don't let it spoil their fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 That's how much a chap on Radio 4 said the Premier League clubs will get as a result of the £3bn deal signed for TV etc rights by Sky and BT yesterday, a 73 per cent rise on the figure agreed last time. Wow. Thank god for promotion, because the rest of the leagues get nowt. What shall we spend it on? Subsidising tickets? New keeper? Better beer? And that's the shame I would have liked the cha Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 What should happen now? The PL to require all clubs as a condition of membership to reduce all ticket prices by 20% across the board for season 2013/14 and by a further 20% the following season. This would recycle some of the TV money to the ordinary punters who do so much to make the 'British' game what it is and to widen access to what is increasingly an entertainment for the well to do, more so in that home and pub subscriptions will have to raise sharply to pay for it all, and it wouldn't weaken the relative status between different clubs (domestically) if it was applied unilaterally. The PL also needs to find a mechanism (prize money?) to re-cycle some of the money into Divs 2, 3 and 4 which produce some of their players and provide the foundations and culture on which their 'greatest league in the world' is built. What will happen? None of the above. Clubs will be given the lot and will spend the lot on players and agents who will see their already obscene salaries inflated further which will in turn provide further disconeect/disenchantment between the game and the fans. The bubble may not have burst yet but all bubbles do burst eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beancounter saint Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Players wage demands will go up a disproportionate amount because of this, I get the feeling most clubs will end up out of pocket. Exactly. Alan Sugar's "Prune Juice economics" as the Radio 4 reporter also mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Does this mean we've now got £104m to spend? Less the £7m for Jay Rod obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 .... makes no diffrence really. Gaps in fubnding between top and bottom of PL will get proportionally larger and everyone has the extra so only advantage is to players and agents. Its not as if its only saints (if we stay up) that get an extra 14 mil.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 What should happen now? The PL to require all clubs as a condition of membership to reduce all ticket prices by 20% across the board for season 2013/14 and by a further 20% the following season. This would recycle some of the TV money to the ordinary punters who do so much to make the 'British' game what it is and to widen access to what is increasingly an entertainment for the well to do, more so in that home and pub subscriptions will have to raise sharply to pay for it all, and it wouldn't weaken the relative status between different clubs (domestically) if it was applied unilaterally. The PL also needs to find a mechanism (prize money?) to re-cycle some of the money into Divs 2, 3 and 4 which produce some of their players and provide the foundations and culture on which their 'greatest league in the world' is built. What will happen? None of the above. Clubs will be given the lot and will spend the lot on players and agents who will see their already obscene salaries inflated further which will in turn provide further disconeect/disenchantment between the game and the fans. The bubble may not have burst yet but all bubbles do burst eventually. Good post its a shame the premier league is becoming a rich man's plaything and the lower leagues are being cut adrift.its a business now and .not the working man's game anymore due to ever increaseing prices . Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 This is the crux of how Murdoch still controls Britain - and us. He has merrily described his Sky sports contracts as his battering ram to media power (and consequently political influence). This is his strategic reply to recent setbacks to purchase Sky outright. He will not give up. Football (and other sports) fans have long since been pawns in his power game. Result for Saints? Even higher player wages next year, and higher match costs. Fewer longstanding loyal fans able to afford to go to matches. And those without Sky subscriptions are fooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 lets be honest...sky literally blow every one else out of the water with their coverage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 This is the crux of how Murdoch still controls Britain - and us. He has merrily described his Sky sports contracts as his battering ram to media power (and consequently political influence). This is his strategic reply to recent setbacks to purchase Sky outright. He will not give up. Football (and other sports) fans have long since been pawns in his power game. Result for Saints? Even higher player wages next year, and higher match costs. Fewer longstanding loyal fans able to afford to go to matches. And those without Sky subscriptions are fooked. We'll have to wait and see when the match tickets come out; but the price of season tickets would seem to suggest that the price increases since the last time we were in the Premier League have not been at all unreasonable. I can remember back in the PL that individual match tickets for the Cat A games were £35, £32 behind the goals. The release of match price tickets will be a decent comparison with that, inflation alone would probably push those prices up to around £40. So I'm sure I buy into the whole "loyal supporters priced out of going" argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 First off we need to stay up next season; this deal starts for 2013/14. No because it will increase the parachute payments clubs get when relegated as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 If you want to sell tv rights to countries across the world you need to make the games look desirable - and you cant do that with half empty stadiums. Ticket prices will be just low enough to ensure a sell out for most games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Works out at about £6.5 million per game which is completely bonkers. £6.5 million to televise Wigan vs Stoke or West Brom vs Saints. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Works out at about £6.5 million per game which is completely bonkers. £6.5 million to televise Wigan vs Stoke or West Brom vs Saints. Wow. Well not really,a mid-table prem side gets about 50 million for a season,14 million (but it won't be shared equally anyway) would bring it up to about 64 million or a bit under 3.5 million a game.The oft quoted 90 million is what you'd get for one season in the PL and your 4 years of Parachute Payments.For just next season the PL will give us somewhere between 40 and 50 million depending where we finish (10th-20th estimated) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 lets be honest...sky literally blow every one else out of the water with their coverage... I would disagree, I think Gary Neville is a moron, and a biased one at that. I also prefer every pundit on MOTD. Coverage wise the beeb has better pundits and take the time to research the teams in question. When saints were on sky last year they had Oakley (vs Leicester) who openly admitted he had not been following saints and who knew sod all about our current team. The pundits were the same and the commentary was just dross. almost as bad as ITV (yes i did just say that!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 I would disagree, I think Gary Neville is a moron, and a biased one at that. I also prefer every pundit on MOTD. Coverage wise the beeb has better pundits and take the time to research the teams in question. When saints were on sky last year they had Oakley (vs Leicester) who openly admitted he had not been following saints and who knew sod all about our current team. The pundits were the same and the commentary was just dross. almost as bad as ITV (yes i did just say that!!) Rubbish. He talks a lot of sense and is a really decent and knowledgable pundit. How you can say he's biased and that you like all the MOTD pundits when Alan Hansen was shamelessly arse kissing "King Kenny" all last season despite Liverpools awful showing is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Rubbish. He talks a lot of sense and is a really decent and knowledgable pundit. How you can say he's biased and that you like all the MOTD pundits when Alan Hansen was shamelessly arse kissing "King Kenny" all last season despite Liverpools awful showing is beyond me. Completely agree. Hansen is an embarrassment and should have been sacked by the BBC when he refused to slag off Dalglish following his deranged interview after the Mancs v Scousers game when Suarez wouldn't shake Evra's hand. The only pundits on the BBC that I rate are Lee Dixon and Claridge. Mark Bright and Robbie Savage are just a joke. Oh, and Colin Murray should be got rid of as well on MOTD2. SKY are streets better. I even think ITV pundits are better than BBC, am particularly impressed with Carragher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Gary Neville is easily the best pundit out there. the way he breaks down moves on his analysis is excellent. after his shaky start on sky, he has been absolutely brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Does this mean we've now got £104m to spend? Less the £7m for Jay Rod obviously. Good pidgin maths. I don't think we should be spending the parachute payments before we get relegated, I remember another club that did that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 MOTD pundits are on the whole smug, bland tosspots who are passed their sell by date by a few years. Gary Neville is (IMHO.....)now the best pundit on the telly bar none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 The BBC's coverage of football is turning into a shambles. Shame, as they used to be great. Pundits such as Hansen and Lawrenson are a joke; no research, no insight, just lazy cliches. John Motson is frankly awful. Gubba still gets used and he is pitiful. The best commentator the BBC has by a country mile (Barry Davies) is shamefully only used for sports other than football. And don't get me started on Colin Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 nothing is worse than ITVs "one night in istanbul/barcelona" commentators though john champion is OK but Martin Tyler with Alan Smith/MLT/Neville is always very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 The BBC's coverage of football is turning into a shambles. Shame, as they used to be great. Pundits such as Hansen and Lawrenson are a joke; no research, no insight, just lazy cliches. John Motson is frankly awful. Gubba still gets used and he is pitiful. The best commentator the BBC has by a country mile (Barry Davies) is shamefully only used for sports other than football. And don't get me started on Colin Murray. Barry Davies. "Just look at his face! Just look at his face!" Legend. If a game was crud, he would truly tell it as it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 I wouldn't be surprised if the pundit debate turned into one between those who only know Gary Neville as a biased Manc, and those who've actually seen him on Sky's Prem coverage last season. As someone who isn't a Sky subscriber, I have had great difficulty believing he is erudite and interesting when talking about football, but there are a lot of Sky subscribers who've told me he is an excellent and surprisingly unbiased pundit who often adds a fresh perspective on matters. As I said, difficult to accept for someone who only sees him as a rat-faced Manc with a crap pencil moustache making proclamations about the working class from his crystal castle, but that seems to be the consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Barry Davies. "Just look at his face! Just look at his face!" Legend. If a game was crud, he would truly tell it as it was. Gazza's free kick for Spurs v Arsenal at Wembley. My favourite bit of commentary ever, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 The BBC's coverage of football is turning into a shambles. Shame, as they used to be great. Pundits such as Hansen and Lawrenson are a joke; no research, no insight, just lazy cliches. John Motson is frankly awful. Gubba still gets used and he is pitiful. The best commentator the BBC has by a country mile (Barry Davies) is shamefully only used for sports other than football. And don't get me started on Colin Murray. Agree the BBC football is the worst the presenters need to be replaced by new blood and a updated format. Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Yes it is next year. But don't let it spoil their fun So now we're spending it before we get it! I'ma all for giving season-ticket holders free tickets for as long as we're in this division. Only in Kingland. Row O. Block 32. Or is it 31? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Jazzbo Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Without doubt Barry Davies' best commentary performance was when he covered the World Staring Championships on the Big Train. 'The Chilean often courts controversy, he once attacked a petrol pump attendant. As a result he was forced to give staring lessons to the street kids of Santiago' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Good pidgin maths. I don't think we should be spending the parachute payments before we get relegated, I remember another club that did that... It would make perfect sense. If we are going to make the champions league we need to show some ambition in the transfer market FFS. Get the cheque book our Nicola you tight c*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Even if the worst happens and we go down this season (not that I think we will), we'll probably benefit from bigger parachute payments due to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 It would make perfect sense. If we are going to make the champions league we need to show some ambition in the transfer market FFS. Get the cheque book our Nicola you tight c*nt. I still roll over laughing at the thought of saints in the champions league any time soon. chelsea have just splashed £30m+ on hazard and still yet to splash more just to get back into the top 4 yet will will do it with lallana, morgan and james ward-prouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 One things for sure, the price of Sky Sports package will go up to help pay for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 I wouldn't be surprised if the pundit debate turned into one between those who only know Gary Neville as a biased Manc, and those who've actually seen him on Sky's Prem coverage last season. As someone who isn't a Sky subscriber, I have had great difficulty believing he is erudite and interesting when talking about football, but there are a lot of Sky subscribers who've told me he is an excellent and surprisingly unbiased pundit who often adds a fresh perspective on matters. As I said, difficult to accept for someone who only sees him as a rat-faced Manc with a crap pencil moustache making proclamations about the working class from his crystal castle, but that seems to be the consensus. When he first came one i was really surprised and switched off a bit when he spoke but after a few weeks i actualy realised he was talking a lot of sense and spot on with what he was saying. No cliches, really well rounded views and as has been mentioned his breakdown and analysis of moves and tactics is spot on. Gives a much more insghtful view of the game and teams that Andy Towsends, "that Rooney, i think hes class" type stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Will just increase player wage inflation to no good end. There should be some rule about clubs having to spend a fixed percentage of additional TV income on improved infrastructure etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 I still roll over laughing at the thought of saints in the champions league any time soon. chelsea have just splashed £30m+ on hazard and still yet to splash more just to get back into the top 4 yet will will do it with lallana, morgan and james ward-prouse and all our star players will ignore Man United, City and Chelsea to stay with Saints on far less money because Southampton in near the sea and the new forest and they can play with their mates. BTW, does anyone know when Modric is joining Man United? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Slight off topic has anyone noticed any building works or decorating at SMS of late ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Gazza's free kick for Spurs v Arsenal at Wembley. My favourite bit of commentary ever, probably. I think it's a disgrace that they've grafted that "look at his face" commentary onto the Best Euros Moments... in Lego video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Slight off topic has anyone noticed any building works or decorating at SMS of late ... Yeah, they've had some builders around the bit between the Megastore and the Reception Entrance - though the OS said they'd refurbed some of the corporate lounges recently, so could just be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 That's how much a chap on Radio 4 said the Premier League clubs will get as a result of the £3bn deal signed for TV etc rights by Sky and BT yesterday, a 73 per cent rise on the figure agreed last time. Wow. Thank god for promotion, because the rest of the leagues get nowt. What shall we spend it on? Subsidising tickets? New keeper? Better beer? Thing is, if everyone in the League gets basically an equal chunk of it, it has little impression on the competition within the Premier League - what it has an impact on is the relationship between the Prem and the Football League, and the Prem teams and comparable European leagues (whether directly in UEFA Club competitions or directly in terms of enticing better players by paying more wages). It won't matter to teams who stay in the Prem, it'll just make them more able to recruit mercenaries who are underselling their ambitions for wages at lower clubs, or enable the top sides to win more European competitions. Over time of course it'll also mean the gap between Prem and Championship will continue to reduce, as assuming the parachute payments stay, the drop off in income will be more visible between recent ex-Prem sides with parachute money and their non Prem-funded Championship opponents, rather than within the Prem itself. To a certain extent this was the case with West Ham's spending this season, and though it didn't stop Saints and Reading it was notable that all the previous season's Prem relegated sides at least made the Playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Al Jazeera must have been serious about trying to get the rights. Massive increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Al Jazeera must have been serious about trying to get the rights. Massive increase. ESPN getting outbid for everything must have been a surprise for them, they were the knights in shining armour last time around when Setanta bailed out and there is still a legal requirement for someone else to get a block of matches to prevent a Sky Sports monopoly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Talking of pundits Mark bright makes me want to pull my own teeth out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 Talking of pundits Mark bright makes me want to pull my own teeth out Cannot stand him, I dont know what it is about him but yeah, you have summed it up pretty well there. Thing is he is better now than he was a few years back but its still bloody painful listening to the ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 14 June, 2012 Share Posted 14 June, 2012 I have never had Sky and don't intend to get it either. 5 Live is good enough for me. Agree on the sentiments over the Premier League. If we had finished 17th we could still be in the best league in the country ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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