Twitchy Gone!

[Turkish]

Add Spud fans to the list of fans of other clubs he has managed - the guy hasn't a clue which is why the FA didn't go with him. I am gutted he has gone though, I couldn't wait to welcome him back to the south coast.

 

I knew a young lad that wasa youth team player at Pompey when Redknapp was there. He said Redknapps training was poor, it centred around playing hour after hour of five a side. To be fair to Redknapp, by his own admission in the past he's admitted that it's all about good players. What he is good at is buy players and getting them to play in a good system and also attractive football, so not fair to say he doesnt have a clue. End of the day he took Pompey up as champions, to their highest league position since the war and won the FA Cup and brought champions league football to Spurs.

 

What he isnt good at it seems is improving players, motivating and managing underperforming players or bringing through young players. He does have a clue, but he only has a clue if he can do things his way and that seems to be short term thinking and the club to have deep pockets. He isnt any good at getting the best out of what he's got, which is why he wasn't the right man for England.

[Cestrian Saint]

He'll end up buying P*mpey.

[Cabrone]

I knew a young lad that wasa youth team player at Pompey when Redknapp was there. He said Redknapps training was poor, it centred around playing hour after hour of five a side. To be fair to Redknapp, by his own admission in the past he's admitted that it's all about good players. What he is good at is buy players and getting them to play in a good system and also attractive football, so not fair to say he doesnt have a clue. End of the day he took Pompey up as champions, to their highest league position since the war and won the FA Cup and brought champions league football to Spurs.

 

To be fair to Harry wasn't Clough (IMO the greatest English manager of all time) the same?

 

His motto was 'football's a simple game', pick good players in the right positions, let them do their stuff and it works.

 

Not even sure if he bothered to turn up to a lot of training sessions TBH.

 

Don't understand the bitterness towards Harry.

 

When he was here he was trying to float a sinking ship with a lunatic above him hell bent on employing rugby coaches and obscure academy 'gurus' above him on massive salaries.

 

I would challenge most managers to have kept us up under those circumstances.

 

What's more - he assembled a fine team in the champ only to be undermined by the chairmain who sold Crouch and handed Harry 90k for transfers.

 

We were 1 or 2 decent strikers away from a bounce back to the prem IMO.

[saint_bert]

I cant see Moyes taking the Spurs job. Bar Modric and Bale, who may be off anyway, I think if you look at squads, Evertons is arguabley stronger than Spurs. Spurs CF from last season belongs to Man city. They have a 41 year old GK. Unless they give him a bucket of cash I can see Moyes staying put. IMO of course.

[Doctoroncall]

I knew a young lad that wasa youth team player at Pompey when Redknapp was there. He said Redknapps training was poor, it centred around playing hour after hour of five a side. To be fair to Redknapp, by his own admission in the past he's admitted that it's all about good players. What he is good at is buy players and getting them to play in a good system and also attractive football, so not fair to say he doesnt have a clue. End of the day he took Pompey up as champions, to their highest league position since the war and won the FA Cup and brought champions league football to Spurs.

 

What he isnt good at it seems is improving players, motivating and managing underperforming players or bringing through young players. He does have a clue, but he only has a clue if he can do things his way and that seems to be short term thinking and the club to have deep pockets. He isnt any good at getting the best out of what he's got, which is why he wasn't the right man for England.

 

Yep, agree, he had limited ability when it came to the technical stuff but he could understand how to put a team together. If only he had a large enough chequebook he could have won a championship! This is what I think Levy didn't like and Spurs have some decent players now and yet he messed up. Why he decided to get Bale to play more in the centre than the wing goodness knows but was it coincidental with the loss of form at the tail end of last season?

[gaz]

Zola to Spuds.

[aintforever]

I think Spurs have made a big mistake, Redknapp has done much better than the previous donkeys they've employed.

 

Watch it all go wrong again and laugh.

[dronskisaint]

He'll end up buying P*mpey.

 

Oh dear lawdy pleeeeeze...there'll be a further ten thousand pages of mirth on that other thread.

 

Won't happen though as he doesn't spend his own money...

[solentstars]

I think Spurs have made a big mistake, Redknapp has done much better than the previous donkeys they've employed.

 

Watch it all go wrong again and laugh.

 

Agree I like harry he's the old school type of manager.

 

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[trousers]

@solentsport: Mitchell keen on Redknapp return: Bournemouth chairman Eddie Mitchell says he would gladly welcome former Totten... http://t.co/2NLzQ5O7

[The9]

@solentsport: Mitchell keen on Redknapp return: Bournemouth chairman Eddie Mitchell says he would gladly welcome former Totten... http://t.co/2NLzQ5O7

 

More likely that his dog will buy out Mitchell's share.

[The9]

I knew a young lad that wasa youth team player at Pompey when Redknapp was there. He said Redknapps training was poor, it centred around playing hour after hour of five a side. To be fair to Redknapp, by his own admission in the past he's admitted that it's all about good players. What he is good at is buy players and getting them to play in a good system and also attractive football, so not fair to say he doesnt have a clue. End of the day he took Pompey up as champions, to their highest league position since the war and won the FA Cup and brought champions league football to Spurs.

 

What he isnt good at it seems is improving players, motivating and managing underperforming players or bringing through young players. He does have a clue, but he only has a clue if he can do things his way and that seems to be short term thinking and the club to have deep pockets. He isnt any good at getting the best out of what he's got, which is why he wasn't the right man for England.

 

...or Saints.

[Saints foreva]

[1960saint]

"No income tax ,No vat"

 

Quote," im not leaving ,i've got a job to do here at spurs" .........Jumped ship with 12 months left on contract.

[FairWeather]

 

Don't understand the bitterness towards Harry.

 

When he was here he was trying to float a sinking ship with a lunatic above him hell bent on employing rugby coaches and obscure academy 'gurus' above him on massive salaries.

 

I would challenge most managers to have kept us up under those circumstances.

 

Not true at all, but its what would Redknapp would have you believe. When he took over we we only just in the relegation zone, and Woodward wasn't appointed until after we were relegated.

[Saint J 77]

He'll end up buying P*mpey.

 

Then Portsmouth city council can go back and finally name their city centre bell after him after all

[The9]

Not true at all, but its what would Redknapp would have you believe. When he took over we we only just in the relegation zone, and Woodward wasn't appointed until after we were relegated.

 

Here's the table from 6th December 2004, he took over on 8th : http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/2004-2005/table/2004-12-06

 

We were 18th but 2 points off the bottom and 2 points from 15th.

[Foxstone]

To be fair to Harry wasn't Clough (IMO the greatest English manager of all time) the same?

 

His motto was 'football's a simple game', pick good players in the right positions, let them do their stuff and it works.

 

Not even sure if he bothered to turn up to a lot of training sessions TBH.

 

Don't understand the bitterness towards Harry.

 

When he was here he was trying to float a sinking ship with a lunatic above him hell bent on employing rugby coaches and obscure academy 'gurus' above him on massive salaries.

 

I would challenge most managers to have kept us up under those circumstances.

 

What's more - he assembled a fine team in the champ only to be undermined by the chairmain who sold Crouch and handed Harry 90k for transfers.

 

We were 1 or 2 decent strikers away from a bounce back to the prem IMO.

 

Totally disagree..

 

While we were in the bottom echelon of the league at that time, we had a better team on paper than others around us and with Redknapp's experience, supposed man management skills and ability to spot a good acqusition in the January transfer window, we had every right to beleive he could see us safe and clear of relegation.

 

As it happened we finished bottom of the league !!

 

Twitchy could and should have kept us up.

[James]

Totally disagree..

 

While we were in the bottom echelon of the league at that time, we had a better team on paper than others around us and with Redknapp's experience, supposed man management skills and ability to spot a good acqusition in the January transfer window, we had every right to beleive he could see us safe and clear of relegation.

 

As it happened we finished bottom of the league !!

 

Twitchy could and should have kept us up.

 

Exactly. Instead, we ended up with Davenport and Bernard (two of the worst players I have ever seen in Saints' shirts), his son who, whilst a good player in his day, wasn't fit enough at all for a relegation battle. He should have kept us up.

 

For all the pundits saying "oh Harry's picked out another gem here" they seem to overlook the 15 or so duds it took for him to get that far.

 

Even at Pompey where he is lauded for picking out so many good players, he also signed some absolute dross.

 

Vastly overrated, no man management skills at all, can't improve a struggling team without replacing it.

 

If I were a chairman I wouldn't touch him.

[sidthesquid]

Personally, I think Karma has a funny way of dishing out justice. For those of us who think he is as dodgy as hell, and got away with his financial shenanigans, this is perfect retribution. No England job & unlikely to ever get another top-six Prem job and no more darling of the press - no amount of money (which he has enough of, anyway) will fill that gap. Justice has been done.

[OldNick]

Personally, I think Karma has a funny way of dishing out justice. For those of us who think he is as dodgy as hell, and got away with his financial shenanigans, this is perfect retribution. No England job & unlikely to ever get another top-six Prem job and no more darling of the press - no amount of money (which he has enough of, anyway) will fill that gap. Justice has been done.

Perhaps in a professional sense but he did not look like a broken man yesterday as he went to the bank. He is loved by the press and his name will be linked with lots of jobs, the person broken is Kevin Bond as IMO,he would not get a job at McDonalds if HR is not behind him

[Thedelldays]

I find the press incredible.

 

Pardew was asked on telly yesterday if he would be interested in the spurs job. He said absolutely not as he is very happy where he is and the club are happy with him

 

So, on the radio this morning. A journo claims that arry could take over at Newcastle with pards going to spurs

 

Christ almighty

[dellgirl]

It can only be a matter of time before he is pictured in Pompey signing the pledge to help that plucky team that gave him such happy times,not so long ago. Handing over his cheque signed with an x, as we all know from his court case he has so few skills a chairman would want,think he shot himself in the foot while worming his way out of that particular little difficulty.

[scotty]

 

:lol:

[Cabrone]

Totally disagree..

 

While we were in the bottom echelon of the league at that time, we had a better team on paper than others around us and with Redknapp's experience, supposed man management skills and ability to spot a good acqusition in the January transfer window, we had every right to beleive he could see us safe and clear of relegation.

 

As it happened we finished bottom of the league !!

 

Twitchy could and should have kept us up.

 

It just isn't that easy to pull a club out of the mess that we were in, even over half a season.

 

The problem was years of mad experiments, managerial merry go round leading to a bloated squad full of journeymen, constant interference from above and poor morale.

 

I watched most of our games that season, we looked like a beaten team waiting for the drop almost from the off. Spurs (a), Watford (a) and Pompey (a) were particularly memorable horror shows that stick in the mind.

 

Once you are down there it is very hard getting out esp with all the shenanigins going on.

 

Redknapp has his faults but few managers would have gotten us out of that nosedive. The club had been run into the ground.

 

All IMO of course.

[Thedelldays]

 

 

hahahahahahaha

[Frank's cousin]

Exactly. Instead, we ended up with Davenport and Bernard (two of the worst players I have ever seen in Saints' shirts), his son who, whilst a good player in his day, wasn't fit enough at all for a relegation battle. He should have kept us up.

 

For all the pundits saying "oh Harry's picked out another gem here" they seem to overlook the 15 or so duds it took for him to get that far.

 

Even at Pompey where he is lauded for picking out so many good players, he also signed some absolute dross.

 

Vastly overrated, no man management skills at all, can't improve a struggling team without replacing it.

 

If I were a chairman I wouldn't touch him.

 

Indeed...remember the guffaw when I read in Tom Bowers's book that when Wham Manager he signed some 100+ players in 4 years of which only 18 or so even made a single 1st team appearance = + the infamous transfer of that swedish player for who West ham paid close to 3 mil, yet the swedish club got 800K - the rest went....?

 

He is good with the right players, no doubt but as others have said, I think he is hopeless at motivation and management - a fact that was highlighted in not keeping us up... that squad he inherited had finished 12 the previous season, and was simply on a poor run and demotivated. A decent motivator and improver would have kept us up.

[Hatch]

Arry Likely to kill himself soon, if you interpret todays reports in The Sun.

 

Redknapp quoted as saying 'I won't split my throat over it'

 

so as everything he says is a lie, we can take it the opposite will happen.

[up and away]

It just isn't that easy to pull a club out of the mess that we were in, even over half a season.

 

The problem was years of mad experiments, managerial merry go round leading to a bloated squad full of journeymen, constant interference from above and poor morale.

 

I watched most of our games that season, we looked like a beaten team waiting for the drop almost from the off. Spurs (a), Watford (a) and Pompey (a) were particularly memorable horror shows that stick in the mind.

 

Once you are down there it is very hard getting out esp with all the shenanigins going on.

 

Redknapp has his faults but few managers would have gotten us out of that nosedive. The club had been run into the ground.

 

All IMO of course.

 

What absolute crap. All we needed was one goal either scored or not conceded, with so many opportunities to do so. As a manager there were several opportunities to influence matters and he failed miserably. All Crouch had to do against Everton was take the ball into the corner and we would have survived. No discipline from the players, even Crouch getting himself sent off for vital games not to mention Prutton. The hiding down the tunnel against Arsenal when they started to make a come back, just how can you have an influence when you hide from what is going on the pitch? The small fact he had £4.5M handed to him in the January window and Bryan Robson was just left with his **** in his hand and nothing to collect it in.

 

What we needed was a coach who could get his message across to the players and give us an edge. What we got was a manager who would just bring in different personal and see what difference they made before moving on else where. Bagpuss can certainly motivate players when he wants to and his eye for talent is pretty sound. But that's it and when you go into his other skill sets everything just goes to the negative. He can't coach and his tactics even at Spurs are still just as bad. There was a time at Saints where our corners would result in more of a threat on our goal than it would the opposition, unbelievable!

 

Bagpuss by his own admission is as close to illiterate, innumerate that you could imagine in this day and age. You can only big up a player so much before they can't fail to detect the buffalo breath. For any chief executive the realisation must come far quicker where a short term fix has a shelf life of open prawns on a summers day. I can just imagine Levy with a massive spending budget for the coming season having serious concerns about putting that into twitchys control.

[Cabrone]

What absolute crap. All we needed was one goal either scored or not conceded, with so many opportunities to do so. As a manager there were several opportunities to influence matters and he failed miserably. All Crouch had to do against Everton was take the ball into the corner and we would have survived. No discipline from the players, even Crouch getting himself sent off for vital games not to mention Prutton. The hiding down the tunnel against Arsenal when they started to make a come back, just how can you have an influence when you hide from what is going on the pitch? The small fact he had £4.5M handed to him in the January window and Bryan Robson was just left with his **** in his hand and nothing to collect it in.

 

What we needed was a coach who could get his message across to the players and give us an edge. What we got was a manager who would just bring in different personal and see what difference they made before moving on else where. Bagpuss can certainly motivate players when he wants to and his eye for talent is pretty sound. But that's it and when you go into his other skill sets everything just goes to the negative. He can't coach and his tactics even at Spurs are still just as bad. There was a time at Saints where our corners would result in more of a threat on our goal than it would the opposition, unbelievable!

 

Bagpuss by his own admission is as close to illiterate, innumerate that you could imagine in this day and age. You can only big up a player so much before they can't fail to detect the buffalo breath. For any chief executive the realisation must come far quicker where a short term fix has a shelf life of open prawns on a summers day. I can just imagine Levy with a massive spending budget for the coming season having serious concerns about putting that into twitchys control.

 

Your bitterness clouds your judgement but if you feel that everything that went wrong with the club was all down to Harry Redknapp then that's your issue.

 

Redknapp inherited a bloated squad full of journeymen caused by years of managerial merry-go-round, bizarre tinkering and injured players like Delgardo signed against managerial wishes.

 

I saw most games of 04/05 and we were dire almost from day 1. Wasn't Redknapp our 3rd or 4th manager that season?

 

You can't undo a mess like that with a click of your fingers. Most managers can't turn a squad around and gel a new team together in weeks.

 

Like the pilot of a stalling plane falling out of the sky he wrestled with the controls but eventually ran out of height.

 

The lesson is if you want a well run club then don't chop and change managers every other month and don't tinker without the full buy-in of existing staff.

 

Thank goodness we have what appears to be a rational guy incharge now.

[beatlesaint]

Your bitterness clouds your judgement but if you feel that everything that went wrong with the club was all down to Harry Redknapp then that's your issue.

 

Redknapp inherited a bloated squad full of journeymen caused by years of managerial merry-go-round, bizarre tinkering and injured players like Delgardo signed against managerial wishes.

 

I saw most games of 04/05 and we were dire almost from day 1. Wasn't Redknapp our 3rd or 4th manager that season?

 

You can't undo a mess like that with a click of your fingers. Most managers can't turn a squad around and gel a new team together in weeks.

 

Like the pilot of a stalling plane falling out of the sky he wrestled with the controls but eventually ran out of height.

 

The lesson is if you want a well run club then don't chop and change managers every other month and don't tinker without the full buy-in of existing staff.

 

Thank goodness we have what appears to be a rational guy incharge now.

 

You have made very sound comments up to a point.

I think one of the problems with Harry was his continual use, in interviews, of referring to Saints as "they" when as manager surely it should be "we". What message does that send out for a start ?

We hear this continual claptrap about his man management skills. Maybe if he likes a player but ask the ones he doesnt like - ask yourself how a man manager can continually refer to you and your team mates as "they" !

 

We had a chance, even on the last day of staying up. A win against Man Utd who were looking to the Cup Final the following week and we were ok. United were not interested, we went one up and then instead of going on we just blew up and the last 25 miniutes were played with no spirit and no hope. Old Saggy chops just stood there, arms folded and watched. He left out Kevin Phillips that day, a move I will never ever if I live to be 100, understand.

 

He came to us simply to put 2 fingers up to Mandric. When they kissed and made up he was off like a shot.

 

This time he has well and truly shot himself in the foot. Excellent !

[aintforever]

Redknapp could have kept us up but to say he should have is a bit harsh IMO. Wigley did the damage, Redknapp improved things and if we had a bit of luck we would have survived.

 

It's easy to say he had "X" amount of games but in the Prem if you drop points against the poor sides like we did under Wigley the Chickens come home to roost later on in the season. If I remember rightly when Redknapp took over we still had to face Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs at home meaning getting enough points was always going to be hard.

Edited 15 June, 2012 by aintforever

[Whitey Grandad]

You have made very sound comments up to a point.

I think one of the problems with Harry was his continual use, in interviews, of referring to Saints as "they" when as manager surely it should be "we". What message does that send out for a start ?

We hear this continual claptrap about his man management skills. Maybe if he likes a player but ask the ones he doesnt like - ask yourself how a man manager can continually refer to you and your team mates as "they" !

 

We had a chance, even on the last day of staying up. A win against Man Utd who were looking to the Cup Final the following week and we were ok. United were not interested, we went one up and then instead of going on we just blew up and the last 25 miniutes were played with no spirit and no hope. Old Saggy chops just stood there, arms folded and watched. He left out Kevin Phillips that day, a move I will never ever if I live to be 100, understand.

 

He came to us simply to put 2 fingers up to Mandric. When they kissed and made up he was off like a shot.

 

This time he has well and truly shot himself in the foot. Excellent !

 

To be fair, Strachan did that too.

[Foxstone]

Redknapp could have kept us up but to say he should have is a bit harsh IMO. Wigley did the damage, Redknapp improved things and if we had a bit of luck we would have survived.

 

It's easy to say he had "X" amount of games but in the Prem if you drop points against the poor sides like we did under Wigley the Chickens come home to roost later on in the season. If I remember rightly when Redknapp took over we still had to face Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs at home meaning getting enough points was always going to be hard.

 

We beat Spurs and drew with Arsenal at home !

 

It was the home points dropped against Boro, Everton, Villa, Fulham that sunk us..

 

Redknapp had over half the season to turn around a side 3rd from bottom and on paper possessed better players than the 5 clubs around us. His experience and supposed superior man -management skills ( Better than Robson, Worthington etc) should have been more than enough to see us safe. He failed and we finished bottom..

 

In my opinion he has no excuse.

[gandalf]

And he'll also know that the longer this saga goes on, the more Redknapp will stop his car, wind down his window and give his media chums yet another quote for the headlines.

 

You got this spot on. Saw him chatting to press from his car on local news!

[aintforever]

We beat Spurs and drew with Arsenal at home !

 

It was the home points dropped against Boro, Everton, Villa, Fulham that sunk us..

 

Redknapp had over half the season to turn around a side 3rd from bottom and on paper possessed better players than the 5 clubs around us. His experience and supposed superior man -management skills ( Better than Robson, Worthington etc) should have been more than enough to see us safe. He failed and we finished bottom..

 

In my opinion he has no excuse.

 

We beat Liverpool as well under Redknapp, but my point is that we shouldn't have had to to stay up, we only needed to because of Wigley.

[The9]

Indeed...remember the guffaw when I read in Tom Bowers's book that when Wham Manager he signed some 100+ players in 4 years of which only 18 or so even made a single 1st team appearance = + the infamous transfer of that swedish player for who West ham paid close to 3 mil, yet the swedish club got 800K - the rest went....?

 

He is good with the right players, no doubt but as others have said, I think he is hopeless at motivation and management - a fact that was highlighted in not keeping us up... that squad he inherited had finished 12 the previous season, and was simply on a poor run and demotivated. A decent motivator and improver would have kept us up.

 

I had a conversation with Skate Meringovian when I was working with him back in 2004 about Redknapp's success rate in signing players, we worked out he signed 3 reserves for every 1 starter. Everyone forgets the guff like Chalkias, Schemmel and Pasanen who he signed and barely played for that lot back then as they somehow scraped staying up in their first Prem season - and they were the ones who played just enough that I can remember them. His success rate with signings was appalling, and the ones he didn't like just sat around collecting money for 3 years. Anyone would think he had a preferred agent and was getting a significant cut of every transfer, or something.

[ottery st mary]

Expected sooooooo much from him and he seemed to have very little heart or interest.

 

Without much room to wheel and deal in the transfer market....he never seems to be the same:rolleyes:

 

His agent Lassie 47 appears to have very little movement in the Monte Carlo bank account at the moment and he is barking mad..

[The9]

We beat Liverpool as well under Redknapp, but my point is that we shouldn't have had to to stay up, we only needed to because of Wigley.

 

We were 1 point from safety when Redknapp took over after 16 matches, and in 18th. 2 points from safety at the end of the season, 22 matches later and bottom.

 

Whatever is being blamed on the people who came before him, we had more than enough in the squad to get out of trouble. To claim Redknapp couldn't have done anything about it when he was in charge for more than half of the matches is ridiculous. His inability to improve the players we had (indeed with his Mansfield League Cup shenanigans he set some of the kids back years) and desire to bring in crap who didn't improve the squad or weren't up to the job were the two main problems.

 

We played some great attacking football but couldn't defend, and that didn't improve at any point thanks to the use of two of his January signings, one (Bernard) of whom never played in the Prem again, the other (Davenport) somehow wangled his way to around 30 more Prem appearances after West Ham hilariously paid £3m for him from Spurs despite them having seen him play before.

[Whitey Grandad]

We were 1 point from safety when Redknapp took over after 16 matches, and in 18th. 2 points from safety at the end of the season, 22 matches later and bottom.

 

Whatever is being blamed on the people who came before him, we had more than enough in the squad to get out of trouble. To claim Redknapp couldn't have done anything about it when he was in charge for more than half of the matches is ridiculous. His inability to improve the players we had (indeed with his Mansfield League Cup shenanigans he set some of the kids back years) and desire to bring in crap who didn't improve the squad or weren't up to the job were the two main problems.

 

We played some great attacking football but couldn't defend, and that didn't improve at any point thanks to the use of two of his January signings, one (Bernard) of whom never played in the Prem again, the other (Davenport) somehow wangled his way to around 30 more Prem appearances after West Ham hilariously paid £3m for him from Spurs despite them having seen him play before.

He was being nagged by Lowe to play the kids and this was to prove a point.

[MOSaint]

He was being nagged by Lowe to play the kids and this was to prove a point.

 

Petty thing to do risking the careers of young players just to prove a point made worse by the way he acted in the post match interview. Never seen a manager so happy to slate his players as he was then.

 

Spurs should be relieved he's gone now and not during the season as he'd do pretty much anything to try and teach a chairman that dares not bend to his whim a lesson.

[The9]

He was being nagged by Lowe to play the kids and this was to prove a point.

 

Maybe so, but as manager of the club he should put youth player development ahead of proving any point.

 

P Smith, M Cranie, D Kenton , M Mills, C Baird, N McCann, R Delap, Y Folly (T Walcott, 72), N Dyer, K Jones, D Blackstock (D McGoldrick, 81)

Subs not used: S Gillett, M Tejera, A McNeil

 

for the record. Not a bad side nowadays if you could get rid of the reserve players as opposed to the kids... and Folly, but none of the 5 Prem players (or Mills, who probably will be soon) are still at Saints.

[jjsaint]

We were 1 point from safety when Redknapp took over after 16 matches, and in 18th. 2 points from safety at the end of the season, 22 matches later and bottom.

 

As I remember our season did improve under HR, it's just that Palace, West Brom and Norwich improved as well. We just couldn't catch them. He was a better manager than Wigley, but not by much.

[Thedelldays]

Oh dear

Just listening to the press pass show on talksport and they are blaming the FA for arrys fall from grace.

 

Apparently, the FA owed it to arry to come out and say he was not a candidate.

 

Spurs (apparently) have never had it so good.

Never mind Martin jol finishing 5th twice and Ramos actually winning a trophy

[Legod Third Coming]

Indeed...remember the guffaw when I read in Tom Bowers's book that when Wham Manager he signed some 100+ players in 4 years of which only 18 or so even made a single 1st team appearance = + the infamous transfer of that swedish player for who West ham paid close to 3 mil, yet the swedish club got 800K - the rest went....?

 

He is good with the right players, no doubt but as others have said, I think he is hopeless at motivation and management - a fact that was highlighted in not keeping us up... that squad he inherited had finished 12 the previous season, and was simply on a poor run and demotivated. A decent motivator and improver would have kept us up.

 

He was our third manager in one season. I'm wracking my brains to remember any other club who succeeded with three managers in a season...?

 

You cannot simply arrive at a club in disarray (and we were not matter what history deniers say) and turn it around.

 

I also believe we could and even should have stayed up. But we were 2-0 up with three minutes to go in his first game in charge and drew 2-2.

 

Why? Because we had players like Claus coming to the end of their career and playing like they smoked 40 a day and drank all night... and imbeciles like Danny Higginbotham scoring own goals in the 94th minute with not a single f u cking attacker within three weeks of them!

 

When I think back to those days I recall we were unfit, disorganised, bloated and relying on players like Prutton and Paul FECKING Telfer.

 

The years following WGS' departure are the reason I will enjoy every second of next year even if we're hammered week in and week out. Because we will have a fit, organised and motivate team playing for their manager.

[Legod Third Coming]

We beat Spurs and drew with Arsenal at home !

 

It was the home points dropped against Boro, Everton, Villa, Fulham that sunk us..

 

Redknapp had over half the season to turn around a side 3rd from bottom and on paper possessed better players than the 5 clubs around us. His experience and supposed superior man -management skills ( Better than Robson, Worthington etc) should have been more than enough to see us safe. He failed and we finished bottom..

 

In my opinion he has no excuse.

 

I'm not a Redknapp defender but do you recall the Everton game?

 

Do you remember being in front and Crouch having the ball?

 

Do you recall what he did with it??

 

What's Arry supposed to do when a professional footballer rather than taking the ball to the corner or blasting it into row ZZZZ does what Crouch does?

 

That season we had the worst team I have seen at this club until we appointed the Dutch jokers and played footballers not fit to grace my daughter's school second eleven...

[Thedelldays]

will never forget THAT boro game

stewart fuking downing too

[Legod Third Coming]

will never forget THAT boro game

stewart fuking downing too

 

Yep - a man who could not manage a goal or assist in the entire Permiership season? WTF is he doing in Donetsk??!!!!

[Crazy Diamond]

will never forget THAT boro game

stewart fuking downing too

 

Yep. Not one I'll forget in a hurry. Danny Higginbotham was on form though, an own goal...

[aintforever]

We were 1 point from safety when Redknapp took over after 16 matches, and in 18th. 2 points from safety at the end of the season, 22 matches later and bottom.

 

Whatever is being blamed on the people who came before him, we had more than enough in the squad to get out of trouble. To claim Redknapp couldn't have done anything about it when he was in charge for more than half of the matches is ridiculous. His inability to improve the players we had (indeed with his Mansfield League Cup shenanigans he set some of the kids back years) and desire to bring in crap who didn't improve the squad or weren't up to the job were the two main problems.

 

We played some great attacking football but couldn't defend, and that didn't improve at any point thanks to the use of two of his January signings, one (Bernard) of whom never played in the Prem again, the other (Davenport) somehow wangled his way to around 30 more Prem appearances after West Ham hilariously paid £3m for him from Spurs despite them having seen him play before.

 

I agree Redknapp could have kept us up but he had a difficult job so shouldn't take most of the blame.

 

Wigley dropped too many points against sh!te teams at home. In the Prem it's the home games against the smaller clubs that you target to get the points you need to stay up. Winning away at any club is hard, winning against the big clubs home or away is hard.

 

Wigley won 1 game the whole time he was in charge and during that time every home game was a "winnable" one. Redknapp took over a team in a mess and still had Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs to play at home meaning we had to get results on the road and against top sides at home.

 

Redknapp must take some of the blame but Lowe and Wigley have to take the lion's share.