Why are right wingers more generous?

[dune]

I've noticed that the lounge legends talk a lot about wealth distribution (socialism) but in practice it's the right wingers that are more generous.

 

This is of no surprise to me.

[Seaford Saint]

You need an education mate. You still see politics in terms of left and right.

 

Do you think rich people rather than poor people are more generous?

 

If we are lounge lizards then you are a dinosaur

[trousers]

He is right though....capitalists are the main distributors of wealth... :-)

[dune]

You need an education mate. You still see politics in terms of left and right.

 

Do you think rich people rather than poor people are more generous?

 

If we are lounge lizards then you are a dinosaur

 

I'm just making an observation that I've noticed on here. I didn't intend to touch a nerve.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Cant we restrict individuals ability to start threads?

[alpine_saint]

Cant we restrict individuals ability to start threads?

 

Spoken like a true Socialist.

[dune]

Spoken like a true Socialist.

 

Quite. They are the sort of people that scoff their last rolo.

[Seaford Saint]

I've noticed that the lounge legends talk a lot about wealth distribution (socialism) but in practice it's the right wingers that are more generous.

 

This is of no surprise to me.

So the capitalists are pumping more money into the NHS and education....and the armed forces?

 

No nerves have been damaged....but I would recommend you educate yourself.

[trousers]

So the capitalists are pumping more money into the NHS and education....and the armed forces?

 

 

Ah...ye olde socialist 'solution' of throwing money willy nilly at public services....and watching half of it go down the drain...

 

Less money used more wisely is a cleverer approach IMO...

 

:-)

Edited 11 June, 2012 by trousers

[dune]

So the capitalists are pumping more money into the NHS and education....and the armed forces?

 

No nerves have been damaged....but I would recommend you educate yourself.

 

I'm talking about the generosity of Socialists on the ground and merely pointing out that i've observed that there have been two charity fundraising appeals and the lounge legends (usually full of themselves) go awol, or say they are going to donate at a later date but don't. I will mention no names because that would be unfair on Adrian.

 

Where are your Verbal's and Weasalx16's on these threads given that they are such good socialist?

Edited 11 June, 2012 by dune

[dune]

Or is it that Socialists only believe in charity when it's other peoples money?

[eurosaint]

The major difference between right and left wingers is that those on the right are less hypocritical !

Most labour politicians talk a good story but spend most of the time feathering their own nests !

All IMHO of course !

[dune]

The major difference between right and left wingers is that those on the right are less hypocritical !

Most labour politicians talk a good story but spend most of the time feathering their own nests !

All IMHO of course !

 

Very true. It was amusing to see how many Labour MP's had their snouts in the trough over expenses. These men of the trades union movement sponging off the taxpayer.

[Wade Garrett]

I've noticed that the lounge legends talk a lot about wealth distribution (socialism) but in practice it's the right wingers that are more generous.

 

This is of no surprise to me.

 

Absolute garbage, Downing gives the ball away far more than Milner.

[badgerx16]

Where are your Verbal's and Weasalx16's on these threads given that they are such good socialist?

 

I make the decisions as to which charities I donate money - Guide Dogs for the Blind, for family reasons, always get a donation when I pass a collection, and I have a 'Give as You Earn' deduction at source for the Marie Curie cancer trust. I also support the Lifeboats and some local animal welfare charities, such as Lurcher Link and the Thoroughbred Rehabilitation Trust.

 

So yah boo sucks to you, June.

[Seaford Saint]

Absolute garbage, Downing gives the ball away far more than Milner.

Quality mate -

[Seaford Saint]

I think I am a Socialist according to you....I just raised goodly amount of money of money for Chernobyl Children's Lifeline, I will host a couple of these kids and spend a fair few hundrew quid on them. I also sponsor a couple of kids in Kenya...I help out in charity events....I do whatever I can.

 

The question is this. Should I stop doing all this so I fit the stereotype you outline. I didn't think so.

[badgerx16]

Come on June old girl, fess up - how much of your JSA do you donate ?

[bridge too far]

So generous that they'll even leave their children to others!

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18391663

[badgerx16]

So generous that they'll even leave their children to others!

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18391663

 

Yes, but the pub gave her back.

[bridge too far]

Yes, but the pub gave her back.

 

Do you think it was a tax avoidance scheme that backfired?

[badgerx16]

Do you think it was a tax avoidance scheme that backfired?

 

As anybody making a major donation to Tory party funds might say, "What's tax ?".

[bridge too far]

"The prime minister drove back to the pub and found Nancy helping staff." http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/jun/11/david-cameron-daughter-behind-pub?CMP=SOCNETTXT6966

 

Do you suppose she was on one of those unpaid internship thingies? Or, like the 'volunteers' for the Jubilee celebrations, was she offered a nearby bridge to sleep under should her parents have failed to collect her?

[ecuk268]

So generous that they'll even leave their children to others!

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18391663

 

Obviously admirers of the McCanns.

[saintfully]

Ah...ye olde socialist 'solution' of throwing money willy nilly at public services....and watching half of it go down the drain...

 

Less money used more wisely is a cleverer approach IMO...

 

:-)

 

You haven't noticed how much money has been wasted saving capitalist banks then?

[buctootim]

The OPs claim is the direct opposite of reality (I know, I was amazed too). Poorer people give a greater proportion of their income to charity - its a well known (and played upon) fact in philanthropy. The rich are generally very mean - but with the average bumped up in the main by a few very generous donors like Gates, Buffet and Bloomberg who realise they are getting old, have more money than they or their children will ever need and want to leave a monument.

 

http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2010/08/09/are-the-poor-more-charitable-than-the-rich/

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/magazine/22FOB-wwln-t.html

http://digitaljournal.com/article/273664

Edited 11 June, 2012 by buctootim

[dune]

I make the decisions as to which charities I donate money - Guide Dogs for the Blind, for family reasons, always get a donation when I pass a collection, and I have a 'Give as You Earn' deduction at source for the Marie Curie cancer trust. I also support the Lifeboats and some local animal welfare charities, such as Lurcher Link and the Thoroughbred Rehabilitation Trust.

 

So yah boo sucks to you, June.

 

Of course you do weasel, of course you do. You being the bernard matthews of the burger van world and all that.

[Lord Duckhunter]

You haven't noticed how much money has been wasted saving capitalist banks then?

 

 

For Capitalism to work, bad business’ have to fail and have to be allowed to go bang.

 

 

Nationalising failed business’ and bailing them out, is pure Socialism, not Capitalism.

 

Perhaps that's what New Labour meant by the "third way". Capitalism with the profits and Natiionalise the losses.

[badgerx16]

Of course you do weasel, of course you do. You being the bernard matthews of the burger van world and all that.

 

The only weasel around here is you, forever starting snide trolling threads to satisfy your lust for attention. Now trot along and try to find a suitable YouTube clip to justify the opening gambit of this one.

[badgerx16]

For Capitalism to work, bad business’ have to fail and have to be allowed to go bang.

 

Presumably the Football League is not a capitalist organisation then ?

[dune]

The only weasel around here is you, forever starting snide trolling threads to satisfy your lust for attention. Now trot along and try to find a suitable YouTube clip to justify the opening gambit of this one.

 

I'm following a wind in the willows theme. I did consider calling you toadx16 and rattyx16, but in the end went for Weaselx16. Don't you like your new fun forum name?

[solentstars]

its the usual dim witted nutty right wing claptrap thread..i yearn for the days when we had real working class supporters at football rather than social climbing wannabse who should f..k off back to hockey or cricket and keep on kissing the bankers backsides. power to the people

Edited 11 June, 2012 by solentstars

[Seaford Saint]

Dune, can you clear something up for me. Do you have a job? If it is the case that you don't I would say that you are well placed. You have such an interest in politics it seems an ideal area for you to explore. Why don't you seek out a course?

[badgerx16]

I'm following a wind in the willows theme. I did consider calling you toadx16 and rattyx16, but in the end went for Weaselx16. Don't you like your new fun forum name?

 

I'm flattered that you chose to grace this new alias with a capital letter whilst missing out on 4 others in that statement, ( assuming Toadx16 and Rattyx16 are of equivalent status to Weaselx16 ). I guess that this leaves me free to use Toad to refer to yourself, particularly when appearing in the Washer Woman disguise.

[dune]

I'm flattered that you chose to grace this new alias with a capital letter whilst missing out on 4 others in that statement, ( assuming Toadx16 and Rattyx16 are of equivalent status to Weaselx16 ). I guess that this leaves me free to use Toad to refer to yourself, particularly when appearing in the Washer Woman disguise.

 

I thought I was June/Dunce. I thought you would like being called weaselx16 (NO CAPITAL LETTER ha).

[saintfully]

For Capitalism to work, bad business’ have to fail and have to be allowed to go bang.

 

 

Nationalising failed business’ and bailing them out, is pure Socialism, not Capitalism.

 

Perhaps that's what New Labour meant by the "third way". Capitalism with the profits and Natiionalise the losses.

 

Well duh, we agree then.

[Saintandy666]

I don't think how generous you are is based on your political leaning! Some of the worlds biggest philanthropists(like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet) are left wing, and many are also right wing. Let's just be friends... coalition?

[eurosaint]

its the usual dim witted nutty right wing claptrap thread..i yearn for the days when we had real working class supporters at football rather than social climbing wannabse who should f..k off back to hockey or cricket and keep on kissing the bankers backsides. power to the people

 

Wasn't Labour in power when the banks went unregulated and wild, seem to remember knighthoods being handed out to the likes of Fred (the shred) Goodwin too ???

[trousers]

Wasn't Labour in power when the banks went unregulated and wild, seem to remember knighthoods being handed out to the likes of Fred (the shred) Goodwin too ???

 

Keep your inconvenient truths to yourself FFS! ;-)

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Keep your inconvenient truths to yourself FFS! ;-)

 

Capitalism takes far more people out of poverty than socialism has ever done.

[bridge too far]

Capitalism puts far more people into poverty than socialism has ever done.

 

There you go

[Verbal]

Wasn't Labour in power when the banks went unregulated and wild, seem to remember knighthoods being handed out to the likes of Fred (the shred) Goodwin too ???

 

Wrong. The de-regulation of the banking system, that led directly to the credit crunch, goes back to the 80s and the enthusiastic political adoption of Chicago School economics (notably Milton Friedman - the economic guru of Thatcher and Reagan). This is what led directly to the destruction of the building societies as mutuals, and ultimately to the property bubbles that have been behind successive collapses. Spain is merely an extreme example - a property boom, created by a de-regulated banking system gone bananas. Remember that the credit crunch was also caused by a fatal combination of a property boom and absolutely no regulation of the banking system. The failure of unfettered capitalism embodied.

[trousers]

Wrong. The de-regulation of the banking system, that led directly to the credit crunch, goes back to the 80s and the enthusiastic political adoption of Chicago School economics (notably Milton Friedman - the economic guru of Thatcher and Reagan). This is what led directly to the destruction of the building societies as mutuals, and ultimately to the property bubbles that have been behind successive collapses. Spain is merely an extreme example - a property boom, created by a de-regulated banking system gone bananas. Remember that the credit crunch was also caused by a fatal combination of a property boom and absolutely no regulation of the banking system. The failure of unfettered capitalism embodied.

 

And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is why Labour gave Fred Goodwin a knighthood...

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Wrong. The de-regulation of the banking system, that led directly to the credit crunch, goes back to the 80s and the enthusiastic political adoption of Chicago School economics (notably Milton Friedman - the economic guru of Thatcher and Reagan). This is what led directly to the destruction of the building societies as mutuals, and ultimately to the property bubbles that have been behind successive collapses. Spain is merely an extreme example - a property boom, created by a de-regulated banking system gone bananas. Remember that the credit crunch was also caused by a fatal combination of a property boom and absolutely no regulation of the banking system. The failure of unfettered capitalism embodied.

 

I thought Frank Zimmerman had been locked up.

 

Just joking Verbal

[badgerx16]

And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is why Labour gave Fred Goodwin a knighthood...

 

And how many people in 2004 opposed or even questioned it ? Who was predicting the meltdown that would happen 3 or 4 years later ? Hindsight is a most wonderful weapon.

[trousers]

And how many people in 2004 opposed or even questioned it ? Who was predicting the meltdown that would happen 3 or 4 years later ?

 

Vince Cable

Edited 12 June, 2012 by trousers

[dune]

And how many people in 2004 opposed or even questioned it ? Who was predicting the meltdown that would happen 3 or 4 years later ? Hindsight is a most wonderful weapon.

 

I predicted it. Obviously the Labour thickos didn't see it. The one eyed idiot even proclaimed that he'd put an end to boom and bust.

[Seaford Saint]

I predicted it. Obviously the Labour thickos didn't see it. The one eyed idiot even proclaimed that he'd put an end to boom and bust.

 

You are incredibly ill informed.....or just a wind up merchant.

 

You never responded to my question on your employment. Do you have a job?

[Verbal]

You are incredibly ill informed.....or just a wind up merchant.

 

You never responded to my question on your employment. Do you have a job?

 

He flogs fags.

[buctootim]

He flogs fags.

 

Thats his nightlife explained. How about the job?