Saints ready to sign Robert Green

[CLOTH EARS]

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http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/255631/Southampton-ready-to-sign-Robert-Green/

[SNSUN]

Head: Good experience, international keeper, has improved, we'd have arguably the two best keepers from the nPC last year, Premiership experience, only 32.

 

Heart: My least favourite link of the summer, no thanks. Rather have a young/youngish keeper come in.

 

I wouldn't be devastated though. He'd be a very good free transfer on the face of it.

[trousers]

Has anyone got a list of players that we haven't been linked with yet....?

[Hatch]

Has anyone got a list of players that we haven't been linked with yet....?

 

 

Here.

 

 

Muamba

[EBS1980]

Surely nobody involved in euro 2012 will be moving until their team is out of the competition now?

[lordswoodsaints]

Surely nobody involved in euro 2012 will be moving until their team is out of the competition now?

He'll be moving soon then.

[Turkish]

Would be a great signing. England international, loads of experience, a good age for a goalkeeper and on a free. It's all very well wanting young players but you need experience in key areas as well.

[jasoneuelllfanclub]

This won't happen. There is no logic to it. He is not that good to start of with. Yes he makes some wonder saves but he is gash at the basic art of goalkeeping. Plus we don't need another experienced keeper we need a up and coming keeper who will learn from KD whilst being good enough to step in if and when required.

 

The daily star story is hardly a well research or thought out article. A child could have written that. A non story imo.

[Badger]

Head: Good experience, international keeper, has improved, we'd have arguably the two best keepers from the nPC last year, Premiership experience, only 32.

 

Heart: My least favourite link of the summer, no thanks. Rather have a young/youngish keeper come in.I wouldn't be devastated though. He'd be a very good free transfer on the face of it.

 

Ditto.

 

Free transfer ? Apart from a signing on fee that probably matches a transfer fee.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

A very good keeper in my view and the kind of quality signing we will need to improve our somewhat suspect defence. It seems to me a player of this stature would not come here to be second choice keeper behind Kelvin - this may well put KD's nose 'out of joint' I'd have thought. But however well any one individual has served the club, this is a ruthless game and the interests of team must always come first.

 

Needless to say all the usual provisos re the reliability of the tabloid press still apply.

[Thedelldays]

This won't happen. There is no logic to it. He is not that good to start of with. Yes he makes some wonder saves but he is gash at the basic art of goalkeeping. Plus we don't need another experienced keeper we need a up and coming keeper who will learn from KD whilst being good enough to step in if and when required.

 

The daily star story is hardly a well research or thought out article. A child could have written that. A non story imo.

 

No logic ?

 

The lack of logic is in your post

 

A keeper in the best years of his life

England's no.2

And will have no transfer fee

[Turkish]

This won't happen. There is no logic to it. He is not that good to start of with. Yes he makes some wonder saves but he is gash at the basic art of goalkeeping. Plus we don't need another experienced keeper we need a up and coming keeper who will learn from KD whilst being good enough to step in if and when required.

 

The daily star story is hardly a well research or thought out article. A child could have written that. A non story imo.

 

Behave yourself. It seems the last 4 England managers don't think he is "gash" at the basics.

[Turkish]

No logic ?

 

The lack of logic is in your post

 

A keeper in the best years of his life

England's no.2

And will have no transfer fee

 

But gash at the basics apparently.

[Sheaf Saint]

No logic ?

 

The lack of logic is in your post

 

A keeper in the best years of his life

England's no.2

And will have no transfer fee

 

The fact that he is England's no. 2 says more about the lack of decent keepers in England than it does about his ability IMO.

 

He let in some very sloppy goals for WHU last season and if Big Sam doesn't think he will be good enough for them in the prem next year, why should we assume he would be any better for us?

[Turkish]

The fact that he is England's no. 2 says more about the lack of decent keepers in England than it does about his ability IMO.

 

He let in some very sloppy goals for WHU last season and if Big Sam doesn't think he will be good enough for them in the prem next year, why should we assume he would be any better for us?

 

What are you on about? He has rejected a new contract with West Ham and told them he wants to leave. Gold is on record as saying no one at West ham wanted him to go.

 

And despite his apparent lack of ability he's still in the squad ahead of some other decent goalkeepers. Foster and Robinson to name but two.

Edited 8 June, 2012 by Turkish

[Saint Charlie]

Best thing about this would be rejecting West Ham for us!

[skintsaint]

Thought I read he turned down a hefty wedge at the hammers. Wouldn't come cheap in a weekly wage sense but no transfer fee would cover that. Bolton used to do that well back when they had okocha etc....no transfer fee but highish wages. Green would be a decent signing makes a few errors but tell me one keeper that doesn't.

 

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[norwaysaint]

He's obviously a good keeper, but it would be an odd choice for him. He's by no means guaranteed to dislodge Kelvin, it wouldn't be good for his international prospects to end up as Saints' reserve goalie, which is a very big possibility. I think we should be delighted by the idea of having one of the two on the pitch and the other on the bench, but they would surely hate to be back up for each other and we'd lose one of them by the end of the season.

[tedmaul]

What are you on about? He has rejected a new contract with West Ham and told them he wants to leave. Gold is on record as saying no one at West ham wanted him to go.

 

And despite his apparent lack of ability he's still in the squad ahead of some other decent goalkeepers. Foster and Robinson to name but two.

 

Foster and Robinson retired from international football a year ago.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Foster and Robinson retired from international football a year ago.

 

I retired too as I had as much chance of being selected as these two!

[corky morris]

I cant see us paying his wages....................far too much

[jasoneuelllfanclub]

Behave yourself. It seems the last 4 England managers don't think he is "gash" at the basics.

 

errr he is only in squad due to lack of decent english keepers. he has made a good collection of howlers for both england and west ham FACT

 

have you not seen the robert green bloopers dvd, available in all good video stores?

[Turkish]

Foster and Robinson retired from international football a year ago.

 

Partly because they were behind Green in the pecking order.

[thegaffer]

Green will either stay in London or move to Spain

[Turkish]

errr he is only in squad due to lack of decent english keepers. he has made a good collection of howlers for both england and west ham FACT

 

have you not seen the robert green bloopers dvd, available in all good video stores?

 

Yet despite all this 4 England managers over the last 6 years have all picked him for England and he's kept Davis out of the squad who many on here claim is better. Still what do they know he's clearly gash and only there because there is no one else.

[Chez]

I thought he was poor in West Ham's relegation season, but he's bounced back and had a fantastic season this time round. He needs a change of scenery and we are a good club to offer it.

 

Davis can't go on for ever and who knows if the pace of the Premiership will catch him out.

 

Green fits our profile of low fee high wage. Massive improvement on Bart.

[Chez]

Green will either stay in London or move to Spain

if he is willing to go to Spain then he's willing to join any Prem side for the right length and size contract.

[Armchair]

Did he not reject a 40k a week salary to stay at West Ham? If so then I can't see us offering more than this for a keeper who is no significant improvement on Davis. Yes he is currently Englands number 2 but that says more about the lack of quality keepers we have at our current disposal.

 

Imo Davis deserves to start as No.1 next season.

[Saint Lindford]

IF it comes to it and Green does come to SMS could it be that NA has NOT picked a No1 keeper and it is down to the two of them to fight it out for that spot, all good for the team IMHO. Kelvin has not had that sort of competition for a place really so could be a win win situation all round as two good keepers fight it out to be No1.

[Ken Tone]

errr he is only in squad due to lack of decent english keepers. he has made a good collection of howlers for both england and west ham FACT

 

have you not seen the robert green bloopers dvd, available in all good video stores?

 

 

But every England manager thinks he is better than Kelvin, since they pick him rather than Kelvin. Sorry mate, but I suspect they are better judges than you.

 

However, part of me would be a bit disappointed if we did sign him. I think Davis is up to it in the PL, for a year or two yet anyway, and deserves the chance to prove it. Besides a player who rejects a contract offer from West Ham (aka 'the new Pompey') is unlikely to be happy with our wage offer

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

But every England manager thinks he is better than Kelvin, since they pick him rather than Kelvin. Sorry mate, but I suspect they are better judges than you.

 

However, part of me would be a bit disappointed if we did sign him. I think Davis is up to it in the PL, for a year or two yet anyway, and deserves the chance to prove it. Besides a player who rejects a contract offer from West Ham (aka 'the new Pompey') is unlikely to be happy with our wage offer

 

Frankly if that carried that much weight then they'd be no point debating anything in football. Have an opinion on who should be in the next Saints starting 11? Sorry, Adkins knows more than you so don't bother.

 

The fact is that recent England managers have consistently shown dodgy judgement in team selection. Remember McClaren selecting Carson for his first start against Croatia (cue dreadful performance)? Capello selected Green vs USA (my heart sank when I heard that) and then promptly dropped him for the next match so he obviously got it wrong.

 

I wouldn't be happy with Green coming to Saints. I don't think he is significantly (if at all) better than Davis - notice who got in the Championship team of the year? Surely the professionals who voted know more than you right? Yet would cost a fair wedge and potentially put the nose out of joint of one of our most consistent and valued players.

[Gemmel]

Green had an outstanding season in the Championship. Too many are making judgements on his error against the US.

 

Many goalies are at their prime between 29- 34

 

Three year deal on a proven keeper, who has played internationally on 45k a week, isn't a million miles off a 3 million Jack Butland signing on 25k a week and hoping he fulfils his potential.

 

In many ways if we do sign him, it will go against the mould of players we have bought or seemed to be linked with. But the goal keeping position, is different and Adkins will know better than most about that.

[Ken Tone]

Frankly if that carried that much weight then they'd be no point debating anything in football. Have an opinion on who should be in the next Saints starting 11? Sorry, Adkins knows more than you so don't bother.

 

The fact is that recent England managers have consistently shown dodgy judgement in team selection. Remember McClaren selecting Carson for his first start against Croatia (cue dreadful performance)? Capello selected Green vs USA (my heart sank when I heard that) and then promptly dropped him for the next match so he obviously got it wrong.

 

I wouldn't be happy with Green coming to Saints. I don't think he is significantly (if at all) better than Davis - notice who got in the Championship team of the year? Surely the professionals who voted know more than you right? Yet would cost a fair wedge and potentially put the nose out of joint of one of our most consistent and valued players.

 

Did you read the second part of my post? I pretty much agree with you! I'm a big fan of Kelvin's.

 

The first part was to counter another poster's claim that Green is 'gash' and was 'only in the England squad because of the lack of decent english keepers'.

[saint.tom.clancy]

Not a massive improvement on Kelv, if any. I think we should look elsewhere to be honest, a younger keeper would be better. A year or 2 to learn from Davis would be perfect.

[Give it to Ron]

Not a massive improvement on Kelv, if any. I think we should look elsewhere to be honest, a younger keeper would be better. A year or 2 to learn from Davis would be perfect.

 

What if Kelvin breaks a leg, arm, finger....who would you rather have in goal Green or an untried youngster???

This is the Premiership now we are playing against the worlds best and don't have time to blood in kids in goal.

We will soon find ourselves back in the Championship.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Green is better than Kelv

[Colinjb]

Doesn't fit our usual profile... but would be a sensible signing if it can be done for the right money.

 

It'll certain be a profile raiser too, like it or not, this guy is an England goalkeeper.

[DT]

yes please

[K,Billy's supersound]

if he was to sign then for the first time since we had both neimi and jones would have 100% confidence in our no.2 should our first choice keeper were to miss a game. two top keepers a very good headache to have to choose who plays and neither could slack off in training atall.

[Greenridge]

It might just be my perception but Green seems to 'regularly' make more than his fair share of howlers

Edited 8 June, 2012 by Greenridge

[Give it to Ron]

It might just be my perception but Green seems to 'regularly' make some awful howlers

 

Yet is still picked by West Ham and England...and offered a new deal by WHam as well!

[Greenridge]

Yet is still picked by West Ham and England...and offered a new deal by WHam as well!

 

Indeed Ron, hence why I said 'perception'. I guess it's not fair to judge him unless watching him over the course of a full season when it would seem the good stuff outweighs the bad stuff!

[Colinjb]

It might just be my perception but Green seems to 'regularly' make more than his fair share of howlers

 

So did Kelvin until recent times.

[InvictaSaint]

Not of immediate relevance I know but Green is a genuinely nice bloke, and not your average selfish egotistical footballer; regularly spends his long summers doing charity work abroad, but without any of the accompanying publicity that certain others court.

[Greenridge]

So did Kelvin until recent times.

 

It's strange that he does indeed seem to have eradicated the bloopers from his game and long may it continue. Confidence / concentration??

[K,Billy's supersound]

Seems we're not allowed to criticise anyone 'picked by england managers' then. That's great. I must be thick then because I don't think a) the england managers have been that great or b) england have many good goalkeepers.

 

Green is slightly better than Kelvin. But not much. Enough to deprive a keeper that's given us a huge amount his chance in the top flight? I don't think so. Rather stick with Kelvin and sign someone else as competition. Guess I'm mad. Bet Green goes to QPR for massive wages anyway.

 

no one player has a given right to play, each has to work and earn his place. both would push each other more than they have been in the past few years for that number one shirt.

[Give it to Ron]

It's strange that he does indeed seem to have eradicated the bloopers from his game and long may it continue. Confidence / concentration??

 

I may be a bit harsh on him but had him at fault for 2 of the goals at Blackpool - the first he was in no mans land and went back and his starting position was wrong. The third goal the header was about 4 yards out and he should of come and caught it.

 

Green is a decent keepr IF we sign him - I still want us to sign someone who can command the box - like Richard Wright did and am not sure Green does that.

[Turkish]

Seems we're not allowed to criticise anyone 'picked by england managers' then. That's great. I must be thick then because I don't think a) the england managers have been that great or b) england have many good goalkeepers.

 

Green is slightly better than Kelvin. But not much. Enough to deprive a keeper that's given us a huge amount his chance in the top flight? I don't think so. Rather stick with Kelvin and sign someone else as competition. Guess I'm mad. Bet Green goes to QPR for massive wages anyway.

 

The fact that 4 Different England managers over a 7 year period have consistently picked Green and not one of them has ever picked Kelvin Davis is pretty strong evidence which one is better, no?

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

The fact that 4 Different England managers over a 7 year period have consistently picked Green and not one of them has ever picked Kelvin Davis is pretty strong evidence which one is better, no?

 

And yet the overall opinion of the several hundred pros that played with and against them was that Davis was better than Green.

[Turkish]

And yet the overall opinion of the several hundred pros that played with and against them was that Davis was better than Green.

 

So why isn't Davis in Kiev instead then?

 

Leighton Baines was in the premier league team of the year. Surely this means he's a better left back than Ashley Cole?

Edited 8 June, 2012 by Turkish