badgerx16 Posted 6 June, 2012 Share Posted 6 June, 2012 Did you see a burger van in the vicinity? That line is so old, Ernie Wise rejected it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 7 June, 2012 Share Posted 7 June, 2012 Anyone can throw a worst case scenario about and attempt to present it as an argument, immediately treating the notion as insoluble. Others would look at that worst case scenario and consider how it would be prevented. The simple fact is that you do not want to consider changing the selection of the monarch, so you whip out your Brucey gag, tag on a keyboard revolutionary insult and consider it a job well done. You did the same thing with Cromwell and Ireland earlier on, as if any dissolution of the monarchy would result in the republican Lord Protector going on a nobility-sponsored land grab. It's your right to do that, just as it's my right to take the opinions of kneelers significantly less seriously when it comes to matters of the monarchy, especially when they're ducking under any of the counter-points too. I've voiced my objections, I've tried to meet you halfway; let you keep your pomp, circumstance and kings and queens while suggesting some consideration of lifetime conduct and contribution to Britain into the selection process. I like the idea of a write-in campaign because it gives an opportunity to get a shortlist without anyone "running for King/Queen". Of course there would be some whittling down of frivolous candidates and that would be fine, provided that the selection committee is transparent about their reasons. Once you get down to a list of serious candidates, put it to a public vote, and hold run-off elections until someone has an overall majority. Now we're off the worst-case scenario, can you tell me why that would be any worse than what we do now? A sort of Britain's Got Regent ? Although with Dennis Skinner in place of Simon Cowell. Get's my vote pap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 7 June, 2012 Share Posted 7 June, 2012 Anyone can throw a worst case scenario about and attempt to present it as an argument, immediately treating the notion as insoluble. Others would look at that worst case scenario and consider how it would be prevented. The simple fact is that you do not want to consider changing the selection of the monarch, so you whip out your Brucey gag, tag on a keyboard revolutionary insult and consider it a job well done. You did the same thing with Cromwell and Ireland earlier on, as if any dissolution of the monarchy would result in the republican Lord Protector going on a nobility-sponsored land grab. It's your right to do that, just as it's my right to take the opinions of kneelers significantly less seriously when it comes to matters of the monarchy, especially when they're ducking under any of the counter-points too. I've voiced my objections, I've tried to meet you halfway; let you keep your pomp, circumstance and kings and queens while suggesting some consideration of lifetime conduct and contribution to Britain into the selection process. I like the idea of a write-in campaign because it gives an opportunity to get a shortlist without anyone "running for King/Queen". Of course there would be some whittling down of frivolous candidates and that would be fine, provided that the selection committee is transparent about their reasons. Once you get down to a list of serious candidates, put it to a public vote, and hold run-off elections until someone has an overall majority. Now we're off the worst-case scenario, can you tell me why that would be any worse than what we do now? Right I have thought about it all night and I have written my nomination for Queen or as I think should be called, 'the people's Queen'; Susan Boyle. She would strengthen the Union and I love her rags to riches story. Where do I send I send it to Pap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 7 June, 2012 Share Posted 7 June, 2012 A sort of Britain's Got Regent ? Although with Dennis Skinner in place of Simon Cowell. Get's my vote pap. Sort of, but far less tacky. I'd like to see the selection process be as trusted and held up as something we do right. Not sure we'd do ourselves too many favours by Cowell-ising it (even if we do get Dennis "been down pit" Skinner to decide ). Anything's better than "ah yes, you emerged from a very specific hole before any of your brothers, so you get to lead Britain" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 7 June, 2012 Share Posted 7 June, 2012 Right I have thought about it all night and I have written my nomination for Queen or as I think should be called, 'the people's Queen'; Susan Boyle. She would strengthen the Union and I love her rags to riches story. Where do I send I send it to Pap. If this was homework I'd set for you to do overnight, Sergei - I believe my conclusion would be "must try harder". One extremely ill-suited candidate is a very poor return for the amount of thinking you claim to have done, especially when we've already covered the folly of presenting a worst-case scenario as the only game in town! That's not to say SuBo is actually the worst case choice. There's a strong argument that anyone who suggests SuBo as a possible monarch would actually be worse than SuBo herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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