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Hatch

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Steve Baker for me,

 

Gave me nightmares, still does in fact.

 

I still boo anyone called Baker, the are bound to be rubbish just by association.

toofarnorth

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Sadly, Saints fans have always liked players that run around at 100mph for 90 mins (MLT being the exception!) rather than those who are quietly effective.

 

Rasiak got a hell of a lot of stick the season he scored 20 or so.

Reggie Dunlop

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Rasiak got a hell of a lot of stick the season he scored 20 or so.

 

 

And the reason he got the stick was he scored 20 or so in the first half of the season and a big fat diddly squat from there on hence na na na na na na gregorsz rasiak, rasiak - he is ****ing crap

Crazy Diamond

Crazy Diamond

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And the reason he got the stick was he scored 20 or so in the first half of the season and a big fat diddly squat from there on hence na na na na na na gregorsz rasiak, rasiak - he is ****ing crap

 

He scored the 20 goals and was replaced by Saganowski if memory serves, not sure it was because he had a bad second half of the season, more the fact he wasn't playing. I could be wrong of course but that's how I remember it.

St_Tel49

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He was sheeeeeeeeeeeiiiiittttttttttteeeeeeeeeee. If we wanted someone who was going to run a lot we shuold have signed Zola Bud

 

In YOUR opinion - not in mine. Vectis Saint is bang on the money.

rick1976.4.38

rick1976.4.38

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Bullsh*t

 

Sharp was never given stick here. Everyone knew he had the tallent, he just needed training and matches to get 'Saints fit'. Pointing out that he had a slow start and wasn't performing as well as Tadanari Lee isn't giving him stick.

 

sorry to disagree with you lighthouse but at palace i was ready to deck the mong next to me for the non stop moaning he was giving sharp,i had to move and my son also asked me to back off cos i was ready to lay the idiot out.i cant believe some will boo,give abuse to a player when they are in the red and white of saints,you get behind them and support them

Golden Balls

Golden Balls

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Well it was Puncheon, and now it's Guly.

 

Hang on, I see a pattern here...

 

And it was Jermaine Wright, Paul Telfer, Fabrice Fernandes, Neil McCann.

 

Yep, I see a pattern. They're all males. Bunch of sexists!

Thedelldays

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Was that the black Jermaine Wright, or some other one I missed somehow?

 

You are really hung up on skin colour

 

I see a good or bad player. Ŷou see a good or bad black/white player

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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sorry to disagree with you lighthouse but at palace i was ready to deck the mong next to me for the non stop moaning he was giving sharp,i had to move and my son also asked me to back off cos i was ready to lay the idiot out.i cant believe some will boo,give abuse to a player when they are in the red and white of saints,you get behind them and support them

 

All that proves it that you once sat next to a mong in a crowd of 5,000 people.

 

And why do people persist with the racism stuff despite indisputable evidence to the contrary. Prutton, Jackobsson, Davenport, Makin, Wotton, Nilsson, Molyneux, Forecast, Pulis, Gillett, McCann, Gasmi, Robertson, Pekart, Telfer, Kelvin, Bart, Oakley, Delap, Harding, Seaborne, Hammond, Higginbotham.... take your pick from the white players some fans loved to hate.

scotty

scotty

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You are really hung up on skin colour

 

I see a good or bad player. Ŷou see a good or bad black/white player

 

As do I, but as blakey pointed out, would Guly have come in for the stick he's had on here if he'd been light skinned? He is one of our most skilful players, possibly second to Lallana, but the crap he gets from the SMS faithful baffles me. Ok, he doesnt get stuck in and get his leg broken every other game but he is a very accomplished player. I remember some gobby f*ckwit screaming at him through an entire match in kingsland corner, the most printable comment being "you useless black c*nt". I hate to even think it, but if anyone here is convinced that racism has been eradicated here then I can only say I disagree.

IronCitySaint

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As some others have mentioned, Glenn Cockerill got terrible stick in his last year with us. I always remembered him as a great player for us and thought at the time that it was a bit harsh. Remember one game in particular from under the West Stand that everytime he got the ball he got a volley of abuse and you could see the confidence being sapped out of him during that game. Then he scored a brilliant one-on-one goal and hardly could be bothered to celebrate - he must have been so ****ed off. But, he was rubbish that season and ended up at Leyton Orient to prove it.A bit later on Kevin Moore used to get quite a bit of stick but he was a victim of the Branfoot era. Not a bad defender but not up to the standard we had been aiming for before Branfoot arrived.

Thedelldays

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As do I, but as blakey pointed out, would Guly have come in for the stick he's had on here if he'd been light skinned? He is one of our most skilful players, possibly second to Lallana, but the crap he gets from the SMS faithful baffles me. Ok, he doesnt get stuck in and get his leg broken every other game but he is a very accomplished player. I remember some gobby f*ckwit screaming at him through an entire match in kingsland corner, the most printable comment being "you useless black c*nt". I hate to even think it, but if anyone here is convinced that racism has been eradicated here then I can only say I disagree.

 

So when I think Neil McCann is crap. Does tht make me racist against white people?

scotty

scotty

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So when I think Neil McCann is crap. Does tht make me racist against white people?

 

No. It was a general comment suggesting that Guly gets far more criticism than he deserves, and as blakey mentioned that may have something to do with his skin colour.

Colinjb

Colinjb

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No. It was a general comment suggesting that Guly gets far more criticism than he deserves, and as blakey mentioned that may have something to do with his skin colour.

 

Oh f**k me not this again.

 

The criticism of Delap, McCann, Fernandes, Rasiak, Ripley, Marsden in his early days and Harding from some sections is similarly motivated?

buctootim

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Oh f**k me not this again.

 

The criticism of Delap, McCann, Fernandes, Rasiak, Ripley, Marsden in his early days and Harding from some sections is similarly motivated?

 

I refuse to believe that you are so fundamentally dim that you aren't able to tell the difference between a poster saying a) 'some of the criticism black players receive is racially motivated' and b) 'Anybody who criticises a black player is racist'.

Thedelldays

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No. It was a general comment suggesting that Guly gets far more criticism than he deserves, and as blakey mentioned that may have something to do with his skin colour.

 

I saw/heard him get some stick against Pompey. I would suggest that was because he was utterly dire

Crazy Diamond

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I feel compelled to point out I've never booed a Southampton player. Ever. I'll never do so either. I will however call it as I see it.

 

As for Guly, I can't understand someone who fails to see that the guy isn't very good sometimes. There were all these threads started by holier than thou people with the title of something like 'Lay off Guly' because to them, pointing out that one of their blessed Saints was rubbish on one or two occasions wasn't supporting the team.

 

He had a bad ratio of good to bad games. Simple as.

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whizzpop

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My experience of players who have been boo'd in recent years:-

 

Paul Telfer

Rory Delap

Fabrice Fernandes

Brett Ormerod

Neil McCann

Danny Higginbotham

Darren Kenton

David Prutton

Peter Crouch

Mikael Nilsson

Andreas Jakobssen

Jelle Van Damme

Kenwyne Jones

Leon Best

David McGoldrick

Calum Davenport

Nigel Quashie

Ricardo Fuller

Darren Powell

Nathan Dyer

Kelvin Davis

Jermaine Wright

Jhon Viafara

Chris Makin

Bradley Wright Phillips

Gregorz Rasiak

Youssef Safri

Adam Hammill

Jason Euell

Marek Saganowski

Wayne Thomas

Tomas Pekhart

Ryan Smith

Paul Wotton

Papa Waigo N'Diaye

Michail Antonio

Lee Molyeneux

Jason Puncheon

Jonathan Forte

Dany N'Guessan

 

a fair few over the last 10 years or so!

Colinjb

Colinjb

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I refuse to believe that you are so fundamentally dim that you aren't able to tell the difference between a poster saying a) 'some of the criticism black players receive is racially motivated' and b) 'Anybody who criticises a black player is racist'.

 

I'm more p*ssed off that any criticism (sustained or otherwise) of any non-white player will be seen as racist when the reasons for it are based on performance. We have had scapegoats of all races. The frankly lazy and slanderous implications of some individuals that these criticisms are motivated by race strike me as a complete anachronism.

Lighthouse

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I refuse to believe that you are so fundamentally dim that you aren't able to tell the difference between a poster saying a) 'some of the criticism black players receive is racially motivated' and b) 'Anybody who criticises a black player is racist'.

 

The point is that the 'some criticism' is such a tiny percentage it's irrelevant in the context of such a massive group of people. These isolated knuckle draggers are out-liers, statistical anomalies.

 

Stop saying things like, "a white player wouldn't get this kind of abuse." What you actually mean is, "a white player would only get this abuse from 99.9% of the people criticising him".

scotty

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I saw/heard him get some stick against Pompey. I would suggest that was because he was utterly dire

 

 

I saw him get plenty of stick at SMS when he was playing well. As for the skates away, I would describe his performance as "utterly intimidated".

Judge_B

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Alan McLoughlin. I've cheered on Carlton Palmer, Iain Dowie and Mark Hughes over the years, and thinking back on it I think it was just because they weren't Alan McLoughlin

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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I saw him get plenty of stick at SMS when he was playing well. As for the skates away, I would describe his performance as "utterly intimidated".

 

Isn't it matter of opinion

I have came away from a game thinking fox was excellent. Only to be told he was terrible

 

Is that racist

scotty

scotty

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Isn't it matter of opinion

I have came away from a game thinking fox was excellent. Only to be told he was terrible

 

Is that racist

 

 

You just put your finger on it. I have yet to see Fox play badly, but he gets cut no slack at all if he doesnt play a blinder. And I havent accused you of racism, if you got that impression then I apologise.

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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You just put your finger on it. I have yet to see Fox play badly, but he gets cut no slack at all if he doesnt play a blinder. And I havent accused you of racism, if you got that impression then I apologise.

 

My point I guess was not aimed at you. Just throwing it out there

BlakeySFC

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And the reason he got the stick was he scored 20 or so in the first half of the season and a big fat diddly squat from there on hence na na na na na na gregorsz rasiak, rasiak - he is ****ing crap

 

Stern John got the same stick, yet he scored 19 goals and kept us up that particular season...

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