Northernsaint Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 Guthrie, Lovenkrands, Kadar, Smith (Alan) All would be decent buys bar smith who's past it.
S-Clarke Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 The only player I'd take from that list is Guthrie, and even he wouldn't improve us in the middle massively.
Northernsaint Posted 1 June, 2012 Author Posted 1 June, 2012 Newcastle fans oop north on Facebook are saying getting rid of Guthrie is a mistake
farawaysaint Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 Newcastle fans oop north on Facebook are saying getting rid of Guthrie is a mistake He's 25 now and Newcastle are probably planning to try and push on to the Champions league next year, (unlikely I know.) He'd be nothing but a bit-part player for them if he stays but he could do a decent job for many teams at this level.
Window Cleaner Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 (edited) The only player I'd take from that list is Guthrie, and even he wouldn't improve us in the middle massively. but on a free? now if we could just get Leon Crouch to subsidise his salary we'd be in a win-win situation. Obviously with their French Armada in the middle o't park Newcastle don't need Guthrie.Pity we didn't go after the lad they signed to replace him,Amalfitano jr from Reims.They got him free and he's probably on about 5 bob a week as well. Edited 1 June, 2012 by Window Cleaner
Saint J 77 Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 The only player I'd take from that list is Guthrie, and even he wouldn't improve us in the middle massively. Definitely get Guthrie back. As a free transfer he would be a bargain!
syd_barrett_saint Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 Would love to see Guthrie back here... I think him and Schneiderlin in the middle would be a great combination.
Patrick Bateman Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 Surprised by Guthrie! Would have thought he would have a part to play! However, happy to be corrected the "experts" ... you know who you are, self-righteous pr*cks.
david in sweden Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 The only player I'd take from that list is Guthrie, and even he wouldn't improve us in the middle massively. didn't we have him on loan 3-4 years ago ?
Turkish Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 Surprised by Guthrie! Would have thought he would have a part to play! However, happy to be corrected the "experts" ... you know who you are, self-righteous pr*cks. Not Good enough for Newcastle, not good enough for us. Why do we want their cast offs when we are both pushing for the champions league FFS?
Turkish Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 The only player I'd take from that list is Guthrie, and even he wouldn't improve us in the middle massively. You're kidding right? A very decent player and much better than Hammond and Chaplow. Provide some good competition for Cork and Schniderlin. Let them fight it out for the CM spots. Would be very good business to pick hI'm up for nowt.
Saint J 77 Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 didn't we have him on loan 3-4 years ago ? Yes we did, and he looked very good for us back then. Shame we couldn't keep him, but we were heading in the wrong direction back then.
Patrick Bateman Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 Not Good enough for Newcastle, not good enough for us. Why do we want their cast offs when we are both pushing for the champions league FFS? Ah well ... I was going to say that "self-righteous pr*cks" start with a 'T' .........
sfc1971 Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 A couple of yrs ago I won £400 on Newcastle to go down, Nxt Season I can see the same. The Season just gone was a poor one by Prem standards and was a pure fluke the Toon Army finished where they did.
Saint_clark Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 The only player I'd take from that list is Guthrie, and even he wouldn't improve us in the middle massively. Better than Hammond and Chaplow, possibly even Cork and Schneiderlin if we're being honest.
pingwing Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 Guthrie wants first team and left Newcastle because he didn't think there's much space for him. Worth a go if we can make the space for the guy.
southamptonfclegend Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 I reckon Guthrie and Schniderlin in CM would be class
ThreeSixty Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 Remember Kadar was meant to be pretty decent when he first joined the Toon. Guthrie overrated in my opinion. Poor mans James Milner.
Ludwig Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 A couple of yrs ago I won £400 on Newcastle to go down, Nxt Season I can see the same. The Season just gone was a poor one by Prem standards and was a pure fluke the Toon Army finished where they did. You're talking complete and utter ********. Their midfield is packed full of talent, Coloccini is excellent, Krul and Santon good prospects (and reasonable at present!), with Ba somewhat mercurial and Cisse more predatory than Ched Evans - they're not going down.
Graffito Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 Was Guthrie the chubby one? We don't want any porkers.
Thedelldays Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 You're talking complete and utter ********. Their midfield is packed full of talent, Coloccini is excellent, Krul and Santon good prospects (and reasonable at present!), with Ba somewhat mercurial and Cisse more predatory than Ched Evans - they're not going down. totally agree. however, with the Euro league or what ever it is...and raised expectations etc etc..there will do massively well to repeat last seasons feat
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 Was Guthrie the chubby one? We don't want any porkers. Think you're thinking of Hammill.
Gordon Mockles Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 Was Guthrie the chubby one? We don't want any porkers. As rightly corrected, that was Adam Hamill. He must have been on the George Burley fitness regime sponsored by Jameson's. Came in skinny & full of optimism, left fat & out of shape physically & mentally. Good old George! Whoever thinks Guthrie adds nothing is clearly misguided. Much better that Hammond & an improvemt on Chaplow (who I like) & Leon Best did us a big favour bringing him in. Was sorry to see Guthrie go. Experience in PL, young & hungry for football AND free, seems to tick all our transfer policy boxes & ex Saints, something to prove. Sounds ideal. Love to see him link up with Morgan as someone astutely pointed out. Yes please.
sambosa75 Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 A couple of yrs ago I won £400 on Newcastle to go down, Nxt Season I can see the same. The Season just gone was a poor one by Prem standards and was a pure fluke the Toon Army finished where they did. Eh? They've got an excellent spine to their squad, as good as any team in the Prem outside of Manchester. Krul, Coloccini, S. Taylor, Santon, Tiote, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Gutierrez, Ba and Cisse are anything but relegation fodder.
CB Fry Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 A couple of yrs ago I won £400 on Newcastle to go down, Nxt Season I can see the same. The Season just gone was a poor one by Prem standards and was a pure fluke the Toon Army finished where they did. You cannot finish fifth in the Premier League by fluke.
Red Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 I reckon Guthrie and Schniderlin in CM would be class FWIW - I reckon you're spot on :-)
Amazing Hangover Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 'Cisse more predatory than Ched Evans - they're not going down'. Pure class
Littlelat17 Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 Newcastle did want to keep him and offered him a new contract a few months back but he opted to see out his contract and go on a free to get first team football... Definately worth trying to pick up as hes a free but wages maybe a stumbling block now.. depends how much he wants to play and whether a more established team like Stoke, Villa etc will offer more
Gordon Mockles Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 FWIW - I reckon you're spot on :-) I think so too. Good shout. They'd compliment each other, surely. He must be in the radar or, at least, I hope so.
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 I'm stunned Guthrie is being released. Did his missus turn Pardew down?
Clifford Nelson Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 If Guthrie had been that good he had played first team football with Toon and everybody would have been happy. I wish we could be a little more ambitious rather than to get all excited about players who have been there and not quite made it. Somewhere else I see that Jack Butland wouldn't join Saints but go to a "big" club like Everton or Aston Villa! There is really no need to have such an inferiority complex. The ambitions of our chairman takes us to seek out young players with great potential for the long run to take us to much higher places in the PL than we so far have not even dreamt of. Lee Holmes in his farewell interview is talking about Champions League! Others who play or work for the club also talks about the surprising ambition which is pushing the club on. If we do what we've always done we will struggle year after year with avoiding relegation. NC should be well known by now by all of us not to do what this club has always done. The plans are different because he is looking to achieve something different. That doesn't include spending obscene amounts of money on established superstars, but to spot the future superstars and develop them in a club which has got access to all technology and new thinking not to leave any stone unturned. We will occasionally get our superstars, also the odd turkey and a number of also-rans, but it is the only intelligent way to progress. I kept on saying that the top 6 or 10 of L1 were no worse than most of the CC teams. We proved that. I now say that for an outstanding CC side they have nothing to fear from half of the teams in the PL. Norwich, Swansea, Villa, Everton, West Brom, Wigan, etc. Since they are the enemy I am starting to feel quite confident.
captainchris Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 You're kidding right? A very decent player and much better than Hammond and Chaplow. Provide some good competition for Cork and Schniderlin. Let them fight it out for the CM spots. Would be very good business to pick hI'm up for nowt. Ummm can't say I agree with you any of that!
Katalinic Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 Ummm can't say I agree with you any of that! Guthrie not better than Hammond? Not even in the same class.
Thedelldays Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 hammond would never be a prem player if he was not with saints. he is not even a starter for us. guthries is what we call...a level above i do like hammond by the way...just saying
sambosa75 Posted 2 June, 2012 Posted 2 June, 2012 If Guthrie had been that good he had played first team football with Toon and everybody would have been happy. I wish we could be a little more ambitious rather than to get all excited about players who have been there and not quite made it. Somewhere else I see that Jack Butland wouldn't join Saints but go to a "big" club like Everton or Aston Villa! There is really no need to have such an inferiority complex. The ambitions of our chairman takes us to seek out young players with great potential for the long run to take us to much higher places in the PL than we so far have not even dreamt of. Lee Holmes in his farewell interview is talking about Champions League! Others who play or work for the club also talks about the surprising ambition which is pushing the club on. If we do what we've always done we will struggle year after year with avoiding relegation. NC should be well known by now by all of us not to do what this club has always done. The plans are different because he is looking to achieve something different. That doesn't include spending obscene amounts of money on established superstars, but to spot the future superstars and develop them in a club which has got access to all technology and new thinking not to leave any stone unturned. We will occasionally get our superstars, also the odd turkey and a number of also-rans, but it is the only intelligent way to progress. I kept on saying that the top 6 or 10 of L1 were no worse than most of the CC teams. We proved that. I now say that for an outstanding CC side they have nothing to fear from half of the teams in the PL. Norwich, Swansea, Villa, Everton, West Brom, Wigan, etc. Since they are the enemy I am starting to feel quite confident. Guthrie is behind Cheick Tiote and Yohan Cabaye at Newcastle. No disgrace at all. Guthrie is a great player, good engine, good passer, tough in the tackle, British and about the right age. I'd hope we'd be making an enquiry.
Turkish Posted 3 June, 2012 Posted 3 June, 2012 Ummm can't say I agree with you any of that! So you dont think Guthrie is better than Hammond and Chaplow?? You dont think he'd be good competition with Cork and Schiniderlin and you dont think he'd be a good signing on a free? Are you sure you know anything about football sunshine? If you think that you'd better get yourself on mumsnet.
Mabes Posted 3 June, 2012 Posted 3 June, 2012 get him on the bus!! premiership experience, good engine, likes a tackle, can pick a pass, would be good addition to the squad
Charlie Wayman Posted 3 June, 2012 Posted 3 June, 2012 If they're not good enough for Pards they're certainly not good enough for us. Why do people on here still thik we have to make do with somebody else's left overs. We want to be top six, right? So, let's find some top six players.
The Kraken Posted 3 June, 2012 Posted 3 June, 2012 If they're not good enough for Pards they're certainly not good enough for us. Why do people on here still thik we have to make do with somebody else's left overs. We want to be top six, right? So, let's find some top six players. Indeed. I think we should sign that Oxlade Chamberlain chap. Or that Theo Walcott looks pretty good. Maybe that Welsh lad, Bale, at Tottenham. He'd be good for us. Those are the types of players we should be targetting.
kenneth_kenobi Posted 4 June, 2012 Posted 4 June, 2012 Drogba, Kalou, Saha - couple of useful ones available http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2153405/The-Premier-League-released-list--club-club.html
The9 Posted 4 June, 2012 Posted 4 June, 2012 I think Guthrie would be an improvement on some of our central midfielders but he wasn't the greatest when he was here last time. Worked hard, capable of injecting some pace, right sort of age, not sure about attitude if we wanted to rotate him out though. We were pretty crappy around him when he was here before, but if Newcastle can find the relatively unhealed Tiote and Cabaye a year ago, I don't know why we couldn't do that too.
The9 Posted 4 June, 2012 Posted 4 June, 2012 I think Guthrie would be an improvement on some of our central midfielders but he wasn't the greatest when he was here last time. Worked hard, capable of injecting some pace, right sort of age, not sure about attitude if we wanted to rotate him out though. We were pretty crappy around him when he was here before, but if Newcastle can find the relatively unheralded Tiote and Cabaye a year ago, I don't know why we couldn't do that too.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 4 June, 2012 Posted 4 June, 2012 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4158639/Football-Confidential-Latest-news-in-brief-from-across-English-football.html The Sun linking us to Guthrie today.
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