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I would say no, as i've run on sand in the desert when i was on holiday and it does slow you down.

 

So the reference was in no way derogatory towards Jaidi and his country of origin? A statement which implies that Jaidi is unaware of the difference between grass and sand or that a professional footballer who has been playing in England for over a decade is only used to running in the sand because he's from North Africa is not in any way racist?

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So the reference was in no way derogatory towards Jaidi and his country of origin? A statement which implies that Jaidi is unaware of the difference between grass and sand or that a professional footballer who has been playing in England for over a decade is only used to running in the sand because he's from North Africa is not in any way racist?

 

Im not north African and i find it difficult to run in sand. I dont think sand running is a problem just for black north Africans.

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Im not north African and i find it difficult to run in sand. I dont think sand running is a problem just for black north Africans.

 

So you believe that Jaidi was so slow because he thought he was actually running on sand at the time?

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So you believe that Jaidi was so slow because he thought he was actually running on sand at the time?

 

No, he was just a big bloke not built for pace, which would have made running on sand even more difficult.

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I wish people would stop talking about the colour of his skin when trying to explain the criticisms of Guly. It's got f**k all to do with it. What has being black got to do with his none-performance at Fratton Park or failing to track back and defend when we lose the ball?

 

My personal opinion is that he will get found out a bit in the Prem and struggle to make an impact. I just don't think he is Prem quality, like a lot of the white players we had last season.

 

I think he actually does track back and defend, and in fact in some matches he's been our hardest working player, but the critics choose not to notice that. You do have to wonder why that is.

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I once heard someone say that Radi Jaidi was so slow because he still thought he was running in the sand in the desert. Is that racist?

 

Yes. They did at least have an above-average grasp of geography for a cretin though.

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I think he actually does track back and defend, and in fact in some matches he's been our hardest working player, but the critics choose not to notice that. You do have to wonder why that is.

 

Because you're talking sh/te?

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Yes. They did at least have an above-average grasp of geography for a cretin though.

 

Did you know the term cretin comes because back in the old times it was said that all people from Crete were liars. Hence the term, cretin. Something I learnt on my trip to Kos last week.

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You shouldn't take mental illness lightly, it's a serious problem. Self-acceptance of the condition is the first positive step to addressing the matter.

 

I've previously provided some useful links to you, or was it dune, or sour mash, or TCM?

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You shouldn't take mental illness lightly, it's a serious problem. Self-acceptance of the condition is the first positive step to addressing the matter.

 

I've previously provided some useful links to you, or was it dune, or sour mash, or TCM?

 

Walter does not take advice from Internet mong boards. Walter will decide for himself who he is today. Walter is busy with his home work in his dark and dingy bedsit. Walter is interested to see he has yet another stalker on this forum who can't help mentioning him and commenting on his every post. Walter is concearned by this and things the stalker might be obsessed. Walter does not like obsessions.

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As I mentioned earlier, I'd concentrate on that extracurricular English Language homework.

 

Walter has already told you he does not take advice from Internet mong boards. Walter thinks people should worry less on what he is doing and more on their bizarre fixation with Internet mong board characters. Walter finds this odd.

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What about Pompey's first goal at St Mary's? Guly didn't even try and get back a challenge his man, he just jogged casually back towards the penalty area. This isn't the only time it's happened either.

 

He tracks back a hell of a lot more than Lallana!! I'm NOT saying he is better than AL. It's amazing how AL always looks like he's running in sand when he's meant to be defending but doesn't struggle going forward.

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What about Pompey's first goal at St Mary's? Guly didn't even try and get back a challenge his man, he just jogged casually back towards the penalty area. This isn't the only time it's happened either.

 

Spoke volumes when NA brought Guly on at HT at Leeds as an extra defender. My criticism is that he covers more ground without the ball than with it - often seems to hold back when there's space to attack.

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What about Pompey's first goal at St Mary's? Guly didn't even try and get back a challenge his man, he just jogged casually back towards the penalty area. This isn't the only time it's happened either.

 

Richardson was just as poor and culpable for that goal. Isolated incidents a side, I think Guly has worked very hard for the team over the course of the season. NA deployed him on the right more often than not for this very reason.

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So scoring goals and assists don't count in a team? You appear to watch football with a non football brain.

Oops wrong post replied to. Cant remember who it was in response to but could have been over half of the posts that are anti Gully.

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I watched the season reviews on August on September on Saints Player the other day. There are some great goals there and some fine interplay between Lambert, Lallana, Connolly and of course Guly. In many ways it was the best football of the season. Very offensive.

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He tracks back a hell of a lot more than Lallana!! I'm NOT saying he is better than AL. It's amazing how AL always looks like he's running in sand when he's meant to be defending but doesn't struggle going forward.

 

Sometimes he will track back other times he just doesn't even try, that's what I find frustrating about him a lot of the time. If I had to compare him to another player it would be Rasiak. He is a decent championship striker, good in the air, knows where the net is and when he puts in a bit of effort he can create chances for others. However, I think we have better options up front, especially if we sign Rodriguez. I'd personally have him below Barnard in the pecking order, when the latter gets fit.

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Barnard wasn't okay in League 1, he was very good. He scored 15 goals and worked very hard up front, scoring some absolutely vital goals along the way (MK Dons and Wednesday stick out in my mind). He outscored Guly and was more consistent. Last year we only lost 1 game under Adkins when Barnard started. How you can call that 'fair to middling' whilst describing Guly's 11 goals and inconsistency as 'good' and 'above average' I don't know.

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Barnard wasn't okay in League 1, he was very good. He scored 15 goals and worked very hard up front, scoring some absolutely vital goals along the way (MK Dons and Wednesday stick out in my mind). He outscored Guly and was more consistent. Last year we only lost 1 game under Adkins when Barnard started. How you can call that 'fair to middling' whilst describing Guly's 11 goals and inconsistency as 'good' and 'above average' I don't know.

 

Barnard didnt even make the top 10 scorers in lg1 in 2010/11 (the last season he really played) despite being an out and out striker and Saints being top two - so yes - fair to middling. Guly scored 11 in the championship despite being a midfielder out on the right for most games - so yes - above average and in a different league to Barnard.

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I don't care if his 15 goals didn't get him in the top 100. It's still a decent return for a striker, especially when you consider how hard he works for the team.

 

Guly scored 9 of his 11 goals whilst playing up front last season. Since Sharp and Lee came in in January and he was moved to midfield, he hasn't scored any goals. He has scored once in 2012, playing up front at Forrest.

 

2 goals from midfield, 9 goals up front and 0 goals since January is neither good nor above average. I'm not one of these cretins who believes stats are the be all and end all, but they do paint a picture of Guly's season. He has been inconsistent and certainly is not the midfield scoring threat many paint him out to be.

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With Lambert, Sharp, Lee and (as it seems) JRod as our four strikers, plus Guly being able to play there as well, I can't see Barnard being in our 25 man squad. There is already only 21 players left to allocate, which will be two for every other position (20 for those who are arithmetically challenged) plus a third, yes a third, goal keeper. Barnard is not in contention however well he did in L1.

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I don't care if his 15 goals didn't get him in the top 100. It's still a decent return for a striker, especially when you consider how hard he works for the team.

 

Guly scored 9 of his 11 goals whilst playing up front last season. Since Sharp and Lee came in in January and he was moved to midfield, he hasn't scored any goals. He has scored once in 2012, playing up front at Forrest.

 

2 goals from midfield, 9 goals up front and 0 goals since January is neither good nor above average. I'm not one of these cretins who believes stats are the be all and end all, but they do paint a picture of Guly's season. He has been inconsistent and certainly is not the midfield scoring threat many paint him out to be.

 

Nor is he the donkey that many paint.

 

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I don't care if his 15 goals didn't get him in the top 100. It's still a decent return for a striker, especially when you consider how hard he works for the team.

 

Guly scored 9 of his 11 goals whilst playing up front last season. Since Sharp and Lee came in in January and he was moved to midfield, he hasn't scored any goals. He has scored once in 2012, playing up front at Forrest.

 

2 goals from midfield, 9 goals up front and 0 goals since January is neither good nor above average. I'm not one of these cretins who believes stats are the be all and end all, but they do paint a picture of Guly's season. He has been inconsistent and certainly is not the midfield scoring threat many paint him out to be.

 

Stats don't show how a player contributes in our general play - Guly was, at the start of the season especially, vital to our link up play and bursting runs forward, continuously supplying Richardson for crosses, working hard down the wings and providing deft flicks and touches to continue our attacking momentum.

 

Statistics are at times quite a restrictive way of judging a player's effectiveness in a team.

 

Guly is far better all-round player than Barnard and to suggest otherwise is a bit weird.

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Barnard works harder more consistenly and is a more consistent scorer. Guly has good games, games where he goes completely missing and has been on a half season scoring drought.

 

I would rather have him up front than Guly, that's my opinion. To suggest that to suggest otherwise is weird, is weird.

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Barnard works harder more consistenly and is a more consistent scorer. Guly has good games, games where he goes completely missing and has been on a half season scoring drought.

 

I would rather have him up front than Guly, that's my opinion. To suggest that to suggest otherwise is weird, is weird.

 

I am a great admirer of Barnard but my gut feeling is that Guly may be more effective in the Prem.

 

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With Lambert, Sharp, Lee and (as it seems) JRod as our four strikers, plus Guly being able to play there as well, I can't see Barnard being in our 25 man squad. There is already only 21 players left to allocate, which will be two for every other position (20 for those who are arithmetically challenged) plus a third, yes a third, goal keeper. Barnard is not in contention however well he did in L1.

 

This could be nit-picking but unless you think our main formation will be 4-5-1 there would only be 9 other positions in a starting 11 of 4-4-2.

 

I'm all for attacking football but having 4 strikers for one position and 2 strikers for the other would be a little excessive!

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This could be nit-picking but unless you think our main formation will be 4-5-1 there would only be 9 other positions in a starting 11 of 4-4-2.

 

I'm all for attacking football but having 4 strikers for one position and 2 strikers for the other would be a little excessive!

 

There are only 25 players allowed in the squad, apart from U-21 from our own Academy. 25 players minus 4 strikers equals 21 remaining positions in your squad, whatevever formation we play. I think that NA has made it very clear that he wants to play with two strikers. I think that gives us a rather inflexible way of playing, with the only real variation is to play the midfield in a diamond or not. 4-3-3 varies much easier to 4-3-3-1; 4-5-1; 4-2-3-1; or even 4-1-3-2; etc. I don't think I'll be able to change NA's mind about it, and I can't argue with two consecutive promotions.

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