georgeweahscousin Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 Not logic. Just wishful thinking. Man City and Man United will close us down and stop us playing far more effectively than, say, Blackpool. Blackpool, funnily enough, "play football like us" and we, errr, struggled like hell against them. Funny that. Blackpool is a good point, but Guly was hardly our only poor performer in those games.... I do agree about the closing down, but it doesn't come all over the pitch like it does in the Championship. It is very simple logic which is why I don't understand why people contiunue to maintain that you get more time on the ball. Surely if all defenders in the championship do is charge around the the likes of guly with their amazig ability will be able to nick it past them, a dummy ot a faint and away they go, no? Read yesterday papers, Eden Hazard, according to some of them, needs to bulk up a bit to be a success in the premier league? Why is this when he'll have defenders standing off him an be able to waltz through them using his skill? The higher you go the better the players. Come on GWC, you do a blog, I'd expect you to at least have half a clue what you're on about. I do see what you are saying, and I guess the proof will be in the pudding next season. Guly is more likely to outfox the likes of Kompany etc. than Sharp is though, I can't believe anyone would argue that? We will see I suppose, but the Premier League is more suited to technical players, which Guly is, that I am certain of. Anyone who says Guly has no skill, can't watch very closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 yet another misguided Guly fan throws in the racist card, what an idiot! Jesus, you can be black and crap you know. Of course you can. I saw Darren Kenton. Only reporting what I heard on more than one occasion. Sorry if you don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 No I wouldn't. Le tissier had skill, Guly doesn't. He's a donkey. To anyone with an ounce of brain, the fact that he got into double figures with his goals and can claim any number of "assists" would prove that he isn`t a donkey, but hey, this wouldn`t fit into any short-sited, bigotted argument , would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 yet another misguided Guly fan throws in the racist card, what an idiot! Jesus, you can be black and crap you know. I've heard many racist slurs directed at Guly and other black players over the years. You're incredibly naive if you think it doesn't go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 (edited) Blackpool is a good point, but Guly was hardly our only poor performer in those games.... I do agree about the closing down, but it doesn't come all over the pitch like it does in the Championship. I do see what you are saying, and I guess the proof will be in the pudding next season. Guly is more likely to outfox the likes of Kompany etc. than Sharp is though, I can't believe anyone would argue that? We will see I suppose, but the Premier League is more suited to technical players, which Guly is, that I am certain of. Anyone who says Guly has no skill, can't watch very closely. He has skill and he's a totally different player to Sharp. Sharp is a poacher, they are totally different types of players. Sharp won't try to "out fox" Kompany because he isn't that sort of player. I simply find the idea that a player who haa struggled in one league will be better against better opposition ridiculous. Name me other players who have suddenly turned into world beaters upon promotion after failing to deliver consistently in the championship. Edited 4 June, 2012 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 You know the Guly lovers are struggling when they start playing the race card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 (edited) I've heard some of the racist comments first-hand, it does happen. Even if it were infrequent that would be too often. I find it disgusting that anybody could talk about another human being in that manner, let alone a player at the club they supposedly support. It doesn't matter whether it's related to his ability or not, it's an abhorrent attitude and something that you'd hope we were long past by now. Clearly not all abuse directed towards Guly is racist, that would be moronic to suggest, but it cannot be ignored that there is a dark undercurrent and a minority with an agenda. Edited 4 June, 2012 by ant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 Ignorance isn't a cure. I've heard some of the racist comments first-hand, it does happen. Even if it were infrequent that would be too often. I find it disgusting that anybody could talk about another human being in that manner, let alone a player at the club they supposedly support. It doesn't matter whether it's related to his ability or not, it's an abhorrent attitude and something that you'd hope we were long past by now. I know, calling Pompey fans dirty skate bastards is disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 I know, calling Pompey fans dirty skate bastards is disgusting Defending racism again, nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 Defending racism again, nice. I'm not racist. Calling pompey fans dirty gypos is racist. Which I'm sure you have said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 I'm not racist. Calling pompey fans dirty gypos is racist. Which I'm sure you have said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 I'm not racist. Calling pompey fans dirty gypos is racist. more of an insult to your average nomadic caravan dweller I'd say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 That shop front needs some "welcome back verbal" bunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 Of course you can. I saw Darren Kenton. Only reporting what I heard on more than one occasion. Sorry if you don't like it. my point isnt about racism really, its about anyone who attacks the ability of Guly, seems, in the long run, to be accused of being a racist. Everytime there is a debate about the bloke, the card gets played (this time by you), dont think it was ever mentioned about Waigo and the other bloke from Reading, both equally as ****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 4 June, 2012 Share Posted 4 June, 2012 On Guly - he was a vital, vital cog to our promotion this season, and especially the blistering form early on. He will prove a useful squad member at least in the Prem. Watching the 'Road to the Premier League' on Saints Player - he provided some sublime passes, assists, finishes and general play. Good player indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 On Guly - he was a vital, vital cog to our promotion this season, and especially the blistering form early on. He will prove a useful squad member at least in the Prem. Watching the 'Road to the Premier League' on Saints Player - he provided some sublime passes, assists, finishes and general play. Good player indeed. Dont disagree with any of that. He was great before Christmas, not so good after and he will have a role to play next season. However, anyone who thinks he's going to become a world class player over night because Premier League defences are going to stand off him and let him play is an idiot who knows nothing about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 He has skill and he's a totally different player to Sharp. Sharp is a poacher, they are totally different types of players. Sharp won't try to "out fox" Kompany because he isn't that sort of player. I simply find the idea that a player who haa struggled in one league will be better against better opposition ridiculous. Name me other players who have suddenly turned into world beaters upon promotion after failing to deliver consistently in the championship. David Beckham was pretty nondescript for Preston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 I can see some merit to the idea that Prem sides can allow more time and space, when you don't expect opponents to make mistakes you don't anticipate errors and sometimes don't react to them as quickly. If there's an attitude that committing to a tackle just leaves you out of position and that error will be exploited, then at a high level you don't commit and just stay in position and let the opposition try and break you down. Of course if they decide you're crap, you might get pressed more - but that will depend on opposition tactics and preparation. Even at a parks level if you spend years playing County standard, when you're filling in at reserve level you miss out on opportunities just because you don't expect air-kicks and therefore don't close down the kicker because you're already chasing down where you were expecting the ball would have gone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colehillsaint Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 Dont disagree with any of that. He was great before Christmas, not so good after and he will have a role to play next season. However, anyone who thinks he's going to become a world class player over night because Premier League defences are going to stand off him and let him play is an idiot who knows nothing about football. I am an idiot who knows nothing about football but even I can see you are right. The quality of attacking play at the highest level makes it look like players have more time, but they don't. That's why it's the highest level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 I am an idiot who knows nothing about football but even I can see you are right. The quality of attacking play at the highest level makes it look like players have more time, but they don't. That's why it's the highest level. the better players get more space is because....err, they are better players...nothing to do with champions league winning defences letting them have it willy nilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 He has skill and he's a totally different player to Sharp. Sharp is a poacher, they are totally different types of players. Sharp won't try to "out fox" Kompany because he isn't that sort of player. I simply find the idea that a player who haa struggled in one league will be better against better opposition ridiculous. Name me other players who have suddenly turned into world beaters upon promotion after failing to deliver consistently in the championship. Guly scored 11 goals in his first season with Saints. This in a season when he was in and out of the team. Hardly struggling. According to the OS he has scored 22 goals in 85 appearances. With his numerous "assists" as well, it seems to me that we could do with a few more "donkeys" like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 Guly scored 11 goals in his first season with Saints. This in a season when he was in and out of the team. Hardly struggling. According to the OS he has scored 22 goals in 85 appearances. With his numerous "assists" as well, it seems to me that we could do with a few more "donkeys" like him. I've said above he was good before christmas, but he has also struggled at times and to be blunt at times looked a bit lost, particularly away from home when we have less of the ball and less space to play in. I'm not a Guly hater and do think he has a role to play in the squad. I'm yet to see anyone come up with any compelling evidence or reasoning as too how he is going to be so much better against better players, other than the ridiculous idea that the higher up you go in football the more time on the ball world class defenders allow you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 Really? i thought he was utter ****e against better defences and midfielders, cant header or tackle and doesn't close down fast enough or track back, he's got good vision but the prem is way out of his league. Cup games only im afraid. Lee, lambo, sharp and possibly Jay Rod will be main strikers, and Lallana, Morgan, Cork will be ahead of him that leaves one last spot, a spot that he struggled in, the right midfield which im sure will goto someone with pace and a box to box type player. If you weren't drunk most of the time you'd realise that Guly is a class act. Still there's always one who'll swear that the earth is flat but maybe it is from where you're lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 Guly scored 11 goals in his first season with Saints. This in a season when he was in and out of the team. Hardly struggling. According to the OS he has scored 22 goals in 85 appearances. With his numerous "assists" as well, it seems to me that we could do with a few more "donkeys" like him. In the past two years Guly 22 goals from 85. Lallana has 24 from 87. They are both equally effective except one is local, 'loyal', white and runs around a lot (mostly into blind alleys) and therefore a hero. One makes fewer runs but gives the ball away less, is black and foreign and doesnt speak good English so we rarely hear in interviews how gutted /delighted he is - ergo baddie. An awful lot of Saints fans know bugger all about the game. Sad fact but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 Guly has had some seriously awful shifts but on the other side of the coin, he has been absolutely vital in a lot of games too. You can't dispute his stats either. On that basis, those calling him useless, either a) haven't got a clue or b) ARE racist. On the other hand, he is no ronaldinho. Whether he makes a difference in prem, remains to be seen. Does he deserve the chance, I think yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 (edited) I wish people would stop talking about the colour of his skin when trying to explain the criticisms of Guly. It's got f**k all to do with it. What has being black got to do with his none-performance at Fratton Park or failing to track back and defend when we lose the ball? My personal opinion is that he will get found out a bit in the Prem and struggle to make an impact. I just don't think he is Prem quality, like a lot of the white players we had last season. Edited 5 June, 2012 by Lighthouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 (edited) Can't be bothered... Edited 5 June, 2012 by Avenue Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 I think he has a place for next season as he can play in a couple of positions and is comftorble on the ball whilst chipping in with the odd goal here and there and certainly laying on for others. How good will he be time will tell but i fail to see how he can be written off already. The problem is that too many have already decided he will be **** so as soon as he has a bad game or misplaces a pass they will be on him giving grief. I am afraid those idiots are going to have to get used to a lot of our players giving the ball away and not dominating like we have done in the past few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 Do you think he had any good games for us last season? Of course he did. Boro at home he practically ran the show, I was also at the Ricoh when scored one and set up a couple of others. They're the stand out games, but the fact is he's only scored one goal since boxing day. He's not really troubled any of the better teams in the Championship either. Millwall at home was probably the toughest game he has scored in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 I wish people would stop talking about the colour of his skin when trying to explain the criticisms of Guly. It's got f**k all to do with it. What has being black got to do with his none-performance at Fratton Park or failing to track back and defend when we lose the ball? My personal opinion is that he will get found out a bit in the Prem and struggle to make an impact. I just don't think he is Prem quality, like a lot of the white players we had last season. A section of fans focus on all kinds of aspects unrelated to football ability to decide whether a player is worth supporting or not. Being black, ugly, too tall, poor at giving interviews etc definitely count in the negative side. Being local, white, long serving, running around a lot and clapping the fans are big positives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 A section of fans focus on all kinds of aspects unrelated to football ability to decide whether a player is worth supporting or not. Being black, ugly, too tall, poor at giving interviews etc definitely count in the negative side. Being local, white, long serving, running around a lot and clapping the fans are big positives. How big is this section of fans? Just wondering, like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 How big is this section of fans? Just wondering, like. Are you Turkish's paper boy? Read his scripts for him when he's unavailable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 Are you Turkish's paper boy? Read his scripts for him when he's unavailable? Yes. I'm Turkish's paperboy. Good one, Tim. I'm just wondering what the proportion is of fans who think Guly is rubbish because of the colour of his skin. As far as I can tell, its just a spattering of morons that think that way, but reading on here it seems its much more prevalent than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 Yes. I'm Turkish's paperboy. Good one, Tim. I'm just wondering what the proportion is of fans who think Guly is rubbish because of the colour of his skin. As far as I can tell, its just a spattering of morons that think that way, but reading on here it seems its much more prevalent than that. Sorry. Thought you werre being facetious. No idea. I just go by what I hear aroud me in various parts of the ground - maybe 30% of our fans are on the cretinous scale - from moderately to severely affected. Its possible to be black and popular at SMS, but its a damn sight more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 I think you're wide of the mark here Tim. To say 1 in 3 Saints fans is a cretin is nowhere near accurate. Without having counted I'd have said it's probably less than 1 in 10. It's not more difficult to be black and popular, that's just stupid. Jaidi, Antonio and Waigo have all been very popular recently but all had some pretty significant limitations and were far from perfect players. You're probably thinking of players like Wright and Euell getting a lot of stick. That isn't racism, they were just sh*te, same as Neil McCann or Mikel Nilsson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 Sorry. Thought you werre being facetious. No idea. I just go by what I hear aroud me in various parts of the ground - maybe 30% of our fans are on the cretinous scale - from moderately to severely affected. Its possible to be black and popular at SMS, but its a damn sight more difficult. I have never, not once, heard a criticsm of Guly (either in the ground or outside it) that has made mention of his skin colour. I'm of course not saying it doesn't exist; unfortunately it does. But I have not seen any evidence to suggest its more than just a few knuckle-draggers who simply don't like Guly because he's black. It certainly wasn't a problem for Radhi Jaidi. Papa Waigo was routinely mocked for being consistently offside, but not because he's African. I simply don't buy the race card, lots of people don't rate Guly simply because he is a frustrating player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 I guess my point is more about cretins amongst our fans than about racism per se. Crouch got stick for being too tall, MLT got stick for being too lazy for half his career before he got deified, Jermaine Wright wasnt a great player - but he was far from being the worst on the pitch. A section of our fans like to have a whipping boy in the team at anyone time and that player is more likely to be black than by chance alone is all Im saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 I guess my point is more about cretins amongst our fans than about racism per se. Crouch got stick for being too tall, MLT got stick for being too lazy for half his career before he got deified, Jermaine Wright wasnt a great player - but he was far from being the worst on the pitch. A section of our fans like to have a whipping boy in the team at anyone time and that player is more likely to be black than by chance alone is all Im saying. Unless Makin was playing, yes he pretty much was but that's a different thread. Football isn't exactly the Royal Ballet and will attract some of the lowest scum of society. This holds true for any football club in Britain, we've all got our share of brain dead, knuckle dragging neanderthals, not just Saints. For instance some Barnsley fans were heard singing abuse about Billy Sharp's dead baby. Do I think less of Barnsley and their fans? No, because it's the same at all clubs. A noisey minority shaming the entire fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 we've all got our share of brain dead, knuckle dragging neanderthals, not just Saints. For instance some Barnsley fans were heard singing abuse about Billy Sharp's dead baby. Do I think less of Barnsley and their fans? No, because it's the same at all clubs. A noisey minority shaming the entire fan base. I agree all clubs have them and you dont have to be black, it just helps. Billy Sharp. A ****ing useless fat northern monkey according to the two blokes sat near me in the family stand during the Doncaster game, shortly before he scored twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 June, 2012 Share Posted 5 June, 2012 Sorry. Thought you werre being facetious. No idea. I just go by what I hear aroud me in various parts of the ground - maybe 30% of our fans are on the cretinous scale - from moderately to severely affected. Its possible to be black and popular at SMS, but its a damn sight more difficult. Utter ****** as usual Timothy. In recent seasons Wiago and Antonio have been hero worshiped despite them both being average league one players. In the case of Antonio some are still banging on now about signing him now! The fact is like De Ridder, they are quick and run around a lot and for a lot of our clueless fans this matters far more than end product. Gulys laid back style and body language dont appeal to the mongs who think the only decent players are the ones that run around a lot or bang their chest and clench thier fists whilst screaming and showing that all imporant English quality of passion which apparantly outweighs any lack of actual footballing ability.Rasiak was a victim of the boo boys, he had a similar body language and style to Guly, what's your reason for people getting on his back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 6 June, 2012 Share Posted 6 June, 2012 Guly has had some seriously awful shifts but on the other side of the coin, he has been absolutely vital in a lot of games too. You can't dispute his stats either. On that basis, those calling him useless, either a) haven't got a clue or b) ARE racist.On the other hand, he is no ronaldinho. Whether he makes a difference in prem, remains to be seen. Does he deserve the chance, I think yes. you back to being an utter **** again, what a juvenile statement that is, you should have a think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 6 June, 2012 Share Posted 6 June, 2012 I have never, not once, heard a criticsm of Guly (either in the ground or outside it) that has made mention of his skin colour. I'm of course not saying it doesn't exist; unfortunately it does. But I have not seen any evidence to suggest its more than just a few knuckle-draggers who simply don't like Guly because he's black. It certainly wasn't a problem for Radhi Jaidi. Papa Waigo was routinely mocked for being consistently offside, but not because he's African. I simply don't buy the race card, lots of people don't rate Guly simply because he is a frustrating player. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 6 June, 2012 Share Posted 6 June, 2012 Sorry. Thought you werre being facetious. No idea. I just go by what I hear aroud me in various parts of the ground - maybe 30% of our fans are on the cretinous scale - from moderately to severely affected. Its possible to be black and popular at SMS, but its a damn sight more difficult. another attention seeking load of crap, on what basis do you get 30%, and how can you even gauge that unless you constantly move from area to area around the ground, I mean, if you are going to make a contentious statement, here's an idea, have sopme basis to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 6 June, 2012 Share Posted 6 June, 2012 another attention seeking load of crap, Says the man who cant handle his drink and made a **** of himself at Saints promotion dinner. Think I'll just dismiss your opinion if its okay with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 6 June, 2012 Share Posted 6 June, 2012 Says the man who cant handle his drink and made a **** of himself at Saints promotion dinner. Think I'll just dismiss your opinion if its okay with you. haha, yes, you are spot on with that one, too much red/white/fizzy wine, heckling the wee man and worst of all, having a photo with the man in question himself! Was wondering how you know this..? And, back on the subject, my dismal performance aside, you can still justify that 30% of Saints fans are cretinous (and I guess you are really meaning racist?)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 6 June, 2012 Share Posted 6 June, 2012 haha, yes, you are spot on with that one, too much red/white/fizzy wine, heckling the wee man and worst of all, having a photo with the man in question himself! Was wondering how you know this..? And, back on the subject, my dismal performance aside, you can still justify that 30% of Saints fans are cretinous (and I guess you are really meaning racist?)? Lol. Fair play to you for putting your hands up. Dont worry, I only know because you told us - though I wish I'd been able to be there. Cretinous was too strong a word for me to use, and maybe 30% is too high. I guess I meant the number of people who heckle our own players at games without much reason. Billy Sharp was getting loads from fans around me at the Doncaster game, right up to the point where he scored, twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 6 June, 2012 Share Posted 6 June, 2012 Lol. Fair play to you for putting your hands up. Dont worry, I only know because you told us - though I wish I'd been able to be there. Cretinous was too strong a word for me to use, and maybe 30% is too high. I guess I meant the number of people who heckle our own players at games without much reason. Billy Sharp was getting loads from fans around me at the Doncaster game, right up to the point where he scored, twice. That's true enough, but there is a monumental difference between not liking a player because you don't quite understand/appreciate everything he does, or not liking him because you're a racist and the colour of his skin clouds your view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 June, 2012 Share Posted 6 June, 2012 That's true enough, but there is a monumental difference between not liking a player because you don't quite understand/appreciate everything he does, or not liking him because you're a racist and the colour of his skin clouds your view. I once heard someone say that Radi Jaidi was so slow because he still thought he was running in the sand in the desert. Is that racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 6 June, 2012 Share Posted 6 June, 2012 Lol. Fair play to you for putting your hands up. Dont worry, I only know because you told us - though I wish I'd been able to be there. Cretinous was too strong a word for me to use, and maybe 30% is too high. I guess I meant the number of people who heckle our own players at games without much reason. Billy Sharp was getting loads from fans around me at the Doncaster game, right up to the point where he scored, twice. nice to know you rremember my posts!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 6 June, 2012 Share Posted 6 June, 2012 I once heard someone say that Radi Jaidi was so slow because he still thought he was running in the sand in the desert. Is that racist? What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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