Guly Article

[Saint Charlie]

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1642513.html?cid=rssfeed&att=

 

Think he will do well in the Prem. Might get to play his preferred no10 role a bit more too. Certainly a good versatile player for the 25 man squad.

[Pamplemousse]

A few interesting quotes...

 

For the man known to his adoring Saints fans as “Guly”

 

A crowd favourite at Southampton, Guly has earned the adulation of the St Mary’s faithful thanks to his total dedication

 

 

"The stadiums are always full in England. It doesn’t matter whether it’s the first, second or third division: you’ll never see an empty ground".

 

I thought Guly played at Fratton Park...

[buctootim]

Did Max Clifford write that article?

[PokingFun]

A pretty nice article I thought that shows Guly in a good light. He certainly seems to feel that more fans are on his side than you might otherwise think from reading some of the slating he gets on here at times.

 

The point about him being quite selfless in terms of where he plays and his role in the side is quite important as I feel it is one of the key reasons that NA plays him so often even though there are often different available options in positions he plays.

 

Personally, I think the fella has done a decent job for us the majority of the time and plays well to his manager's instructions. Even in the premier league I think he will remain a decent option for us although I'm fairly certain his game time will become more limited this coming season. Still a good man to have around in my opinion. Good luck to him.

[Saint Charlie]

His goal vs Bristol Rovers must be one of the most crucial in the last two seasons.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmjcar7TO-Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[ant]

His goal vs Bristol Rovers must be one of the most crucial in the last two seasons.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmjcar7TO-Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

Wouldn't disagree too much with that, it felt like one of those days where it simply wasn't going to happen for us. Very coolly taken.

[Golden Balls]

Watching SaintsPlayer's first segment of last seasons review, Guly looks brilliant!! He didn't have a great 2nd half of the season but he is definitely capable of making the step up

[DrunkenSaint]

Watching SaintsPlayer's first segment of last seasons review, Guly looks brilliant!! He didn't have a great 2nd half of the season but he is definitely capable of making the step up

 

Really? i thought he was utter ****e against better defences and midfielders, cant header or tackle and doesn't close down fast enough or track back, he's got good vision but the prem is way out of his league. Cup games only im afraid. Lee, lambo, sharp and possibly Jay Rod will be main strikers, and Lallana, Morgan, Cork will be ahead of him that leaves one last spot, a spot that he struggled in, the right midfield which im sure will goto someone with pace and a box to box type player.

[Cheam Saint]

“Southampton are a big side and there’s not much to choose between teams here,” he said. “We’re on the same level as a lot of sides in the Premier League. We’re going up to win things, not just to try and avoid relegation. We’re aiming for the top.”

 

Another Saints player making statements about Saints competing at the top. Wasn't there a thread about that somewhere?!?!

[dune]

He's not good enough for the Premier League. It's as simple as that.

[syd_barrett_saint]

I bet Guly surprises a lot of the naysayers on here next season, I'd wager he'll feature in at least half the games, either starting or on as a sub. Of course, that will only surprise the naysayers by him continually featuring, if he keeps doing the business (being involved in our goals, either scoring, assisting or in the build up, as he was countless times last season) they will just keep on ignoring that.

[Saint J 77]

His goal vs Bristol Rovers must be one of the most crucial in the last two seasons.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmjcar7TO-Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

That was probably the one of the best things he has done since joining us. It was a true piece of Brazilian magic at a crucial moment and in a crucial game. His worse contribution being unable to challenge Ward in the pompey match at Fratton Park when we should have won but because of his failure to jump we ended up drawing.

[saintscottofthenortham]

He's not good enough for the Premier League. It's as simple as that.

 

I am no big fan of Guly... But I honestly think he will look better in the Prem than in the last two seasons. Same with Morgan.

[dune]

I bet Guly surprises a lot of the naysayers on here next season, I'd wager he'll feature in at least half the games, either starting or on as a sub. Of course, that will only surprise the naysayers by him continually featuring, if he keeps doing the business (being involved in our goals, either scoring, assisting or in the build up, as he was countless times last season) they will just keep on ignoring that.

 

If you're right, and he plays that many games, we'll be relegated, because for him to get into the team it will mean that we don't have a good enough squad. He's not good enough for the Championship so god knows why people like you think he'll be good enough in a FAR SUPERIOR division.

[dune]

I am no big fan of Guly... But I honestly think he will look better in the Prem than in the last two seasons. Same with Morgan.

 

Why do you think he'll suddenly be a better player in a harder league? It doesn't make sense.

[syd_barrett_saint]

If you're right, and he plays that many games, we'll be relegated, because for him to get into the team it will mean that we don't have a good enough squad. He's not good enough for the Championship so god knows why people like you think he'll be good enough in a FAR SUPERIOR division.

 

He was more than good enough for the championship. Or did you miss all of his goals, assists and build-up play leading to goals, in a team that got automatic promotion?

[dune]

He was more than good enough for the championship. Or did you miss all of his goals, assists and build-up play leading to goals, in a team that got automatic promotion?

 

I think the credit must go to the rest of the team for carrying him in so many games. Particularly after Christmas whenever he played we effectively played with 10 men most of the time. In the Premier League we simply won't be able to carry him.

[Jonnyboy]

I think the credit must go to the rest of the team for carrying him in so many games. Particularly after Christmas whenever he played we effectively played with 10 men most of the time. In the Premier League we simply won't be able to carry him.

 

This forum carries you.

[syd_barrett_saint]

I think the credit must go to the rest of the team for carrying him in so many games. Particularly after Christmas whenever he played we effectively played with 10 men most of the time. In the Premier League we simply won't be able to carry him.

 

I'm glad that I agree with Nigel Adkins on this one, and not you. I'm pretty sure who out of you and him knows more about football.

[latter day saint]

This forum carries you.

[dune]

I'm glad that I agree with Nigel Adkins on this one, and not you. I'm pretty sure who out of you and him knows more about football.

 

So when Guly barely gets a game next season who will you agree with?

[latter day saint]

So when Guly barely gets a game next season who will you agree with?

if that happens i will agree with Adkins as he is the bloke getting paid to manage the team

[miserableoldgit]

Dune = WUM. Don't pander to him!

 

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[dune]

Dune = WUM. Don't pander to him!

 

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What is there to get wound up over? A lot of fans don't rate Guly.

[syd_barrett_saint]

So when Guly barely gets a game next season who will you agree with?

 

Perhaps he won't get a game, but that will mean we will have brought in several better options than him, in which case, I'll be happy, and continue agreeing with Adkins.

 

You on the other hand, will continue being wrong about Guly last season.

[Avenue Saint]

The talents Guly DOES have, will be useful in prem.

 

Composed on ball, retention, pickng out a pass.... When he played ****e, I was his biggest critic but I have a feeling, like cov game, there's a place for him in central midfield.

 

Either way, I think he should get his chance...

[buctootim]

The talents Guly DOES have, will be useful in prem.

 

Composed on ball, retention, pickng out a pass.... When he played ****e, I was his biggest critic but I have a feeling, like cov game, there's a place for him in central midfield.

 

Either way, I think he should get his chance...

 

Quite. He is an attacking central midfielder but for Saints he has almost always been played up front or out on the right. Coventry gave him a chance to show what he can do in a central role.

[dune]

Perhaps he won't get a game, but that will mean we will have brought in several better options than him, in which case, I'll be happy, and continue agreeing with Adkins.

 

You on the other hand, will continue being wrong about Guly last season.

 

Me and the thousands of others...

 

Like it or not Guly does divide opinion.

[Thedelldays]

The talents Guly DOES have, will be useful in prem.

 

Composed on ball, retention, pickng out a pass.... When he played ****e, I was his biggest critic but I have a feeling, like cov game, there's a place for him in central midfield.

 

Either way, I think he should get his chance...

playing against coventry on the last game of the season when they had a poor bunch of kids playing to playing in the prem is a rather big difference

[syd_barrett_saint]

Me and the thousands of others...

 

Just as me and thousands of others were right.

[syd_barrett_saint]

Quite. He is an attacking central midfielder but for Saints he has almost always been played up front or out on the right. Coventry gave him a chance to show what he can do in a central role.

 

Exactly. And if we play 4-5-1 away from home next season, as I think could often happen, Guly would do an excellent job as the attacking player in a central midfield three.

[Thedelldays]

Exactly. And if we play 4-5-1 away from home next season, as I think could often happen, Guly would do an excellent job as the attacking player in a central midfield three.

dear god.

[syd_barrett_saint]

dear god.

 

I know you like Guly delldays, but I'm not sure I'd put him quite on MLT's level just yet ;-)

 

(In all seriousness though, very intelligent addition to the conversation, thanks)

[Thedelldays]

I know you like Guly delldays, but I'm not sure I'd quite put him quite on MLT's level just yet ;-)

 

(In all serioiusness though, very intelligent addition to the conversation, thanks)

the reason you play 5 in midfield is to have that extra bod in the middle so you don't get swamped in that area...with guly playing their, he won't offer that much defensively..so may as well not bother

[syd_barrett_saint]

the reason you play 5 in midfield is to have that extra bod in the middle so you don't get swamped in that area...with guly playing their, he won't offer that much defensively..so may as well not bother

 

He does offer a lot defensively. More than Lallana, for example. I think we just watch different games.

[Thedelldays]

He does offer a lot defensively. More than Lallana, for example. I think we just watch different games.

but lallana offers so much more in attack....

but you are talking about the middle of the park....no passengers there I'm afraid

 

Guly will be phased out this season...unless we have a bout of injuries

[syd_barrett_saint]

but lallana offers so much more in attack....

but you are talking about the middle of the park....no passengers there I'm afraid

 

Guly will be phased out this season...unless we have a bout of injuries

 

You think Guly is a passenger. I don't. Many people think he is a passenger. Many don't.

 

Time will tell. I will in fact be happy if Guly is phased out, because that would mean we will have had an excellent transfer window and would go into the Prem with a very strong squad. Here's hoping!

[Thedelldays]

You think Guly is a passenger. I don't. Many people think he is a passenger. Many don't.

 

Time will tell. I will in fact be happy if Guly is phased out, because that would mean we will have had an excellent transfer window and would go into the Prem with a very strong squad. Here's hoping!

we won't need an excellent transfer window...just an adequate RM and he is sub

[syd_barrett_saint]

we won't need an excellent transfer window...just an adequate RM and he is sub

 

Again, we'll have to agree to disagree. If we get a good RM in (which we do need, it isn't Guly's best position, and Chaplow blew hot and cold even in the Championship), then Guly will get less games of course. But unless we strengthen well in attacking midfield positions, Guly will still be involved a lot next season.

 

At the moment this is all hypothetical though. We'll see when we know our squad going in to the new season.

[austsaint]

I think the credit must go to the rest of the team for carrying him in so many games. Particularly after Christmas whenever he played we effectively played with 10 men most of the time. In the Premier League we simply won't be able to carry him.

 

Your assessment of Guly is way off the mark, Dune. If you care to re-watch the last game of the season v Coventry you'll see numerous examples of his skill and team focus, both of which will serve him well next season; probably as a regular "off the bench" player.

[shirleysfc]

Delldays and Dune in Guly wumming shocker!!

[capitalsaint]

Gwumming.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Some on here really do need to take a reality check and obtain a better grip on the magnitude of the task ahead of us. The Premier League is the 'acid test' of a teams collective strength so any inherent weakness in that collective - such as a player who was missing in action for half a season - will surely be ruthlessly exposed.

 

The Guly do Prado who made a genuine contribution to our play in the first half of last season might just be worth a place on the bench I suppose. The Guly who (in this fans opinion) did the square root of bugger-all in the latter stages of our NPC campaign could cost us our Premier League survival. Gambling on which Guly turns up next season is not a passtime I'd want to engage in.

 

Although I know from bitter experience that there are many on here who will refuse to accept that, I also hope and believe that Nigel Adkins is just too good a manager not to see it.

Edited 2 June, 2012 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE

[georgeweahscousin]

Technically speaking. He is the most gifted player we have.

 

In the Premier League he will get more time and space, and should thrive.

[Brussels Saint]

Guly's best position is at the point of a diamond.

 

I'm a fan of his, but also don't think we will see that much of him next season. Maybe a fair bit as a sub.

 

For those who slated him last year or reckon he is a poor player, what do you think NA sees in him, playing him often, that you don't? NA is no idiot and if it's clear Guly is poor, why would he play him?

[dune]

Guly's best position is at the point of a diamond.

 

I'm a fan of his, but also don't think we will see that much of him next season. Maybe a fair bit as a sub.

 

For those who slated him last year or reckon he is a poor player, what do you think NA sees in him, playing him often, that you don't? NA is no idiot and if it's clear Guly is poor, why would he play him?

 

I think there's a political element at play here. Guly was signed by Cortese afterall.

[Papa Shango]

A friend of mine ran in to Rickie Lambert in a hotel just before the Blackpool game in March, and Lambert told him the players rate Guly as one of the best players at the club. The fact that Nigel Adkins picked him nearly every week should tell you how highly he rates him. I'd rather trust his opinion on Guly than the clueless mongs in the Northam who don't know the first thing about tactics. The stick he got from the crowd really ****ed me off last season. Yes he had bad games, but so did everyone else. I disagree with people saying he did nothing in the second half of the season. He didn't get any goals, but his general play was good, particularly during March. His defensive/off the ball work is so underrated.

[shirleysfc]

I think there's a political element at play here. Guly was signed by Cortese afterall.

 

Classic!

[georgeweahscousin]

A friend of mine ran in to Rickie Lambert in a hotel just before the Blackpool game in March, and Lambert told him the players rate Guly as one of the best players at the club.

 

Only a fool can't see how technically gifted he is.

[Red]

I think there's a political element at play here. Guly was signed by Cortese afterall.

 

ha ha ha bloodly ha - let a life! So NA plays a crap player just to please NC, but then might get the sack if he ****s up! Right makes real sense!!! GDP is decent player (not great) who will make a contribution next year.