jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 How does this work then? I thought that agreed CVA had to be in place by certain deadline otherwise further points deduction handed out. Is that not what happened to us? BBC Solent Sport @solentsport To clarify statement from PKF - #pompey will start next season without further points deduction even if they are still in admin Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 BBC Solent Sport @solentsport #pompey administrators PKF confirm that Football League have assured Pompey will start season in League One - & without points penalty Expand Reply Retweet Favorite BBC Solent Sport @solentsport To clarify statement from PKF - #pompey will start next season without further points deduction even if they are still in admin .......... Again they are answering a question that has an answer already in the public domain (on the Football League regulations document available to everyone on their website). The Football League rules show that they wouldn't get a points penalty for remaining in admin this summer. I don't know why the BBC and Pompey News think it may have been an issue. What about a penalty for diluting the failed 2010 CVA with a new 2012 CVA? Why haven't the BBC asked the Football League or PKF about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 I think it has already been expanded on another thread in the lounge. Start from the beginning, read through it and then let us know your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 This is assuming the Skates will start next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 Points deduction will come when they come 'out' of admin if the CVA isn't agreed (* also inclusive of assumption in above post!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 Points deduction will come when they come 'out' of admin if the CVA isn't agreed (* also inclusive of assumption in above post!) Or start a second successive season in administration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 What about a penalty for diluting the failed 2010 CVA with a new 2012 CVA? Question to be made to the Football League here... enquiries@football-league.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 What about a penalty for diluting the failed 2010 CVA with a new 2012 CVA? Question to be made to the Football League here... enquiries@football-league.co.uk Oh I'm sure you've already written to them. They'll struggle even without a points deduction. They're League 2 bound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 I think it has already been expanded on another thread in the lounge. Start from the beginning, read through it and then let us know your thoughts. Really, that one must have slipped me by - can't say that I have seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 transfer embargo for bringing the game into disrepute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 BBC Solent Sport @solentsport #pompey administrators PKF confirm that Football League have assured Pompey will start season in League One - & without points penalty Expand Reply Retweet Favorite BBC Solent Sport @solentsport To clarify statement from PKF - #pompey will start next season without further points deduction even if they are still in admin .......... Again they are answering a question that has an answer already in the public domain (on the Football League regulations document available to everyone on their website). The Football League rules show that they wouldn't get a points penalty for remaining in admin this summer. I don't know why the BBC and Pompey News think it may have been an issue. What about a penalty for diluting the failed 2010 CVA with a new 2012 CVA? Why haven't the BBC asked the Football League or PKF about that? My understanding is that until CVA2 is in place or there is an exit of administration without a CVA and/or CVA1 is dissolved the League are in no position to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 What about a penalty for diluting the failed 2010 CVA with a new 2012 CVA? Question to be made to the Football League here... enquiries@football-league.co.uk Wrote a little letter, put in the main thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 It works because they are P*rtsmouth and they seem to be able to get away with murder. :-( Luton town got a 30 point penalty & Chester City got a 25 point deduction for being in exactly the same situation. It's one rule for one and another rule for another. The FA make me sick with their inconsistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 It works because they are P*rtsmouth and they seem to be able to get away with murder. :-( Luton town got a 30 point penalty & Chester City got a 25 point deduction for being in exactly the same situation. It's one rule for one and another rule for another. The FA make me sick with their inconsistency. You should then write to them for some clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 Just need a lot of football fans to demand the answer to one simple question: Why does failing to exit with a CVA means points deduction, but ignoring a CVA does not? Club A says 'we aren't paying debt back'. Club B says 'we'll pay back 20%'. Neither pay back anything, but club B increases their debt still further. Please explain. It's a thoroughly worthwhile question, and I agree. Nonetheless I can easily see them getting away with it, on the pre-text that CVA1 has neither been ignored nor gone away; it will still need to be serviced as part of CVA-2, albeit at a lower than initially agreed rate. Complete horse-sh*t of course, but you can just imagine that the Football League don't actually have a rule for this and will bottle the big decision in fear of huge litigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 It works because they are P*rtsmouth and they seem to be able to get away with murder. :-( Luton town got a 30 point penalty & Chester City got a 25 point deduction for being in exactly the same situation. It's one rule for one and another rule for another. The FA make me sick with their inconsistency. Luton's 30 point penalty was not all for administration, it also included 10 points for paying agents via a third party and came about after 3 administrations in the Footbal League in 10 years. Chester City's points deduction was by the Football Conference. None of the points deductions were by the FA, except Pompey's 9 points which was handed out when they were in the Premier League (which is run by the FA). The FA have so far been completely consistent, as they have so far only ever handed out one points deduction for administration, viz Skates. The Football League is inconsistent, but this is not related to Chester, and there were extenuatiing circumstances for Luton. The Conference is well known for its draconian measures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 I see they are about to sign someone - but still owe charities money no doubt... Total bunch of k u nts as is anyone who now continues to support them. They need to go bust for the good of humanity - not to allow another crook to launder more cash and fleece more of the needy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 About time we had a separate thread to discuss this Pompey admin malarkey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 It works because they are P*rtsmouth and they seem to be able to get away with murder. :-( Luton town got a 30 point penalty & Chester City got a 25 point deduction for being in exactly the same situation. It's one rule for one and another rule for another. The FA make me sick with their inconsistency. No they didn't, they got those penalties for a variety of different reasons, and none of them were for just starting a season whilst in administration. Luton got done for not having a CVA and financial irregularities (PROVEN ones). The FL rules are clear, there is a punishment for going into admin, and there is a punishment for not coming out of admin with a CVA. There is also a punishment for being in admin for too long, and the Skate Cheats haven't broken that one either. The Football League (nothing to do with the FA) are being perfectly consistent, and they also had nothing to do with Chester's penalties, which were in the Conference and WERE administered by the FA. This is a complete non-story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 Come on in and join us nutjobs on the main Pompey thread on the lounge --the water's lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 ... in fear of huge litigation. And which lawyers do you think are going to represent a club that defaults on all its payments ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 Come on in and join us nutjobs on the main Pompey thread on the lounge --the water's lovely. I prefer to use it as a reference tool when something new happens in order to preserve my tenuous sanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 And which lawyers do you think are going to represent a club that defaults on all its payments ? And yet still they do business. Still they found suppliers to add to their almighty debt. And they have the prospect of £16M of parachute payments; probably a bit daft to suggest they couldn't get a lawyer with that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 Theoretically of course CVA1 hasn't failed until CVA2 offers less than 100% repayment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?14620-Pompey-Takeover-Saga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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