whelk Posted 29 May, 2012 Posted 29 May, 2012 Strong rumours that Rodgers and Martinez will be Liverpool's and Villa's manager respectively soon If does happne Swansea and Wigan will struggle without and what with Reading that's the bottom 3 sorted;) lets push on to Europe
Micky Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 If it does happen then not only will Swansea, Wigan and Reading be behind us - so will Liverpool and Villa....!
sotonswan Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 Strong rumours that Rodgers and Martinez will be Liverpool's and Villa's manager respectively soon If does happne Swansea and Wigan will struggle without and what with Reading that's the bottom 3 sorted;) lets push on to Europe We (Swans) never really got over losing Kenny Jackett. I still wake up in a sweat.
Faz Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 Strong rumours that Rodgers and Martinez will be Liverpool's and Villa's manager respectively soon If does happne Swansea and Wigan will struggle without and what with Reading that's the bottom 3 sorted;) lets push on to Europe You're right. Thats a defo 18 points right there, and half way to safety before we've even kicked a ball. Easy this pL stuff.
Viking Warrior Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 Well HNigel is not going to Liverpool as Rodgers has been appointed , Breaking News on BBC
CB Fry Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 Norwich, Swansea, WBA and Villa could all be with new managers next season (well three of them definitely will). They can't all be runaway successes so all good for our prospects.
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 If it does happen then not only will Swansea, Wigan and Reading be behind us - so will Liverpool and Villa....! You jest but I have had a decent punt on Rodgers to be first manager sacked and Liverpool to finish no higher than 8th. Martinez is staying at Wigan who will get relegated... Swansea were going down (second seasonitis) which is why Brendan has jumped, sadly, right into the fire!
Flyer Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 Looks like its Lambert to Villa which will mean Norwich will be the strugglers.
S-Clarke Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 Looks like its Lambert to Villa which will mean Norwich will be the strugglers. Really odd move for Lambert if true.
aintforever Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 Would be great if Lambert and Rodgers move clubs. I expect Wigan to be down the bottom regardless of wether Martinez goes or not.
The Kraken Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 Steve Bruce to Norwich I reckon Big Malky will also be in with a shout.
whelk Posted 30 May, 2012 Author Posted 30 May, 2012 I just hope that Peter Reid is in the frame for someone. Added bonus that will not be a pundit anywhere either. He thought Downing was 22 FFS when giving insight into Norway v England game.
Ziggy Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 So to put this in context, this time next year everyone will be after Adkins. If the recent merry go round is repeated.
Thedelldays Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 Really odd move for Lambert if true. Why. Villa are miles bigger than Norwich and have the potential to be miles better
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 Why. Villa are miles bigger than Norwich and have the potential to be miles better Are they looking at a stadium expansion
Saint J 77 Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 If true thats a good appointment for Villa. I reckon he would work out there. Norwich will suffer if they lose Lambert though. I can't really think of a decent replacement for Norwich. Perhaps they could get Brian Gunn back? In all honesty though I would feel for Norwich a little bit. He has done a great job for them so it was only a matter of time before his achievements got noticed.
the saint in winchester Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 You're all talking about "potentially" - Liverpool are potentially better ... right now being Swansea manager would be a safer seat than Liverpool; being Norwich manager safer (better?) than being Villa manager. I would feel sympathy for Swansea and Norwich fans if these both go through. Rodgers to Liverpool surprises me, and I don't think its a good match. Roberto Martinez is a very good manager and deserved that job at Liverpool. I understand he will stay at Wigan. Their gain. That Dave Whelan should shut up and be grateful he has Martinez and increase his salary.
Monk Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 Would love to see Paul Lambert at Villa, reckon he's one of the most under-rated managers in English football and think its about time Villa had some sort of success.
sfc4prem Posted 30 May, 2012 Posted 30 May, 2012 Would love to see Paul Lambert at Villa, reckon he's one of the most under-rated managers in English football and think its about time Villa had some sort of success. I wouldn't say Lambert is underrated, to be fair.
BristolSaint Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 I was asked by a Blackburn fan this week whether I thought there were 3 teams that Saints could finish above in the premier league as he believed that we would end up getting relegated and Blackburn would come straight back up again. I disagreed with him and even before Rodgers left Swansea I listed the following who I believe will finish below Saints: Norwich QPR West Brom Aston Villa Swansea Wigan Stoke Sunderland West Ham Mid Table safety for Saints!
SaintBobby Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 I was asked by a Blackburn fan this week whether I thought there were 3 teams that Saints could finish above in the premier league as he believed that we would end up getting relegated and Blackburn would come straight back up again. I disagreed with him and even before Rodgers left Swansea I listed the following who I believe will finish below Saints: Norwich QPR West Brom Aston Villa Swansea Wigan Stoke Sunderland West Ham Mid Table safety for Saints! That's a great list. And cheered me up! I don't think we will finish above all of them, but have a fair chance of finishing above three of them. I'd add Reading and possibly Fulham to the list.
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 This thread is embarrassingly arrogant, we've not even kicked a ball yet FFS???
Tokyo-Saint Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 This thread is embarrassingly arrogant, we've not even kicked a ball yet FFS??? Ppppffffffttttt we'll walk this league.
Pilchards Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 Ppppffffffttttt we'll walk this league. Another runners up for me.
david in sweden Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 (edited) I'm glad that someone started this thread, because I'd been mulling over these thoughts since Dalglish got the push. L'pool have obviously been unsuccessful in luring a " big international name manager " to Anfield, and who can wonder with some of their performances last season. With Gerrard (my fav. player) and Carragher on the way to retiring the future looks gloomy for this once great club who have depended on a succession of Latin strikers to keep them afloat in recent years. I wish Brendan Rodgers luck at Anfield because I think he's going to need a lot of it next season. Rodgers did a fantastic job at Swansea (who had 6th spot when they won their 2011 playoff) but his predecessor (Swansea) Martinez, needed his own "Great Escape" scenario to keep Wigan clear of the Prem. drop zone...this time. The domino effect (of Prem. managers playing musical chairs) is further increased by the prospect of Paul Lambert moving from Norwich to A.Villa (another great name with a very mediocre side). He was successful at Norwich, but when will his luck run out .., Villa maybe his " bridge too far ". He will certainly take Grant Holt (asked for transfer last week) ..with him, but it may not be enough. Most interesting is (Reading's) Sir John Madejski's public statement " urging the new owner to make money available for transfers.." He went on to say that he didn't expect a lot of big money signings this summer, but praised Readings excellent youth players, who can come in ! Careful Sir John! ..we (Saints) have been down that road before... and it came to an abrupt and painful end. Surely every owner of a Prem. club realises the enormous challenge of..."just staying in the Prem."without actually winning anything- or could it be the Russian gentleman can only see the potential £60 million income the club will get this season, and doesn't want to spend it? of the other clubs; Chelsea (if they settle their management issue) can go on, and so too will Man.City as long as the price of petrol is so high. Wenger has gone back to the " boring Arsenal " style, but I don't see him going anywhere and they may come again as a title challenger...and then we have Man Utd. Flattered by their second place finish last season, I think they had a whole season of good luck which ran out in " stoppage time" in Manchester. Sooner or later..(Sir) Alex Ferguson must retire, but WHO DARES -- replace him? .and then we have... 'appy 'arry at Spurs.The Great Survivor..who is already sitting in the lifeboat before the iceberg comes into view. Now that he didn't get the England job (thank goodess)...he may decide to jump ship in the next year or so ..will Glenn Hoddle come again ? England boss Roy Hodgson will get more time to prove his worth - than the average Prem. manager does - but how will WBA fare without him? West Ham may have got promoted but I understood they had desperate money problems when Gold and Sullivan (or, is it Sullivan and Gold) took over. If they can't get their finances in order they may fall into another trap. Many clubs succeed by having the right manager at the right time, but after they part...neither of them benefits..as Lawrie Mac would be only too quick to recant on his ill-fated return to Tyneside in 1985. His bank balance may have grown, but his once great reputation was tarnished for some fans. Few people would say that Alan Pardew wasn't a good manager (despite his spat with Cortese) but the real proof of his mangerial skills will come next season. IF Saints survive a couple of seasons, and continue the Adkins way, the Prem. may look a very different place by 2014. Edited 31 May, 2012 by david in sweden
doddisalegend Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 So Basically ...if Nigel does a good job this season and keeps us up he'll be head hunted by the bigger clubs in the league next summer...If he doesn't he'll probably get the chop...either way this probably Nigels last season as saints boss:rolleyes:
the saint in winchester Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 So Basically ...if Nigel does a good job this season and keeps us up he'll be head hunted by the bigger clubs in the league next summer...If he doesn't he'll probably get the chop...either way this probably Nigels last season as saints boss:rolleyes: I think that's a fair summary, tbh. The old maxim of 'promoting someone until they reach their level of incompetence' applies. If Adkins does well, he'll be attracted by "bigger" clubs and if we struggle, the Chairman will want to bring someone else in to have a go. I can see now why many didn't want us to go up!
BristolSaint Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 BBC website is saying that Lambert has resigned from Norwich and is talking to Aston Villa. This time next season I sincerely hop Adkins has had a great season and is being lined up for job offers elsewhere only for both NC and NA to come out and say that NA is part of a five year plan to get Saints in to the Champions league :-)
tpbury Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 I'm amazed that Lambert can manage one Premier team and still be a top striker in another. Is anything beyond his capabilities?
The9 Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 I'm amazed that Lambert can manage one Premier team and still be a top striker in another. Is anything beyond his capabilities? Sprinting ?
rshephard3 Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 I think that's a fair summary, tbh. The old maxim of 'promoting someone until they reach their level of incompetence' applies. If Adkins does well, he'll be attracted by "bigger" clubs and if we struggle, the Chairman will want to bring someone else in to have a go. I can see now why many didn't want us to go up! If we hadn't gone up he'd be gone by now. The mad world of football management.
Kaiser Soze Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 Goes to show if we have a good season next year, we could have a job keeping hold of Nige.
ART Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 Reading about Lambert walking out on Norwich really disgusts me. Yet, the way clubs treat managers only leads to this type of thing happening. Bringing back bad memories of Hoddle walking out on Saints to return to his spiritual home. Our returning to the Premiership has unleashed a return to such scenarios and calling into the total lack of loyalty of managers and players. How I have enjoyed the past couple of seasons in the Championship and League One.
S-Clarke Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 Swansea are after Wigan's coach, Graeme Jones, to replace Rodgers.
The9 Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 Reading about Lambert walking out on Norwich really disgusts me. Yet, the way clubs treat managers only leads to this type of thing happening. Bringing back bad memories of Hoddle walking out on Saints to return to his spiritual home. Our returning to the Premiership has unleashed a return to such scenarios and calling into the total lack of loyalty of managers and players. How I have enjoyed the past couple of seasons in the Championship and League One. We have not returned to the Premiership. The Premiership ceased to exist in 2007. Just as we have not returned to Canon League Division One.
PhilippineSaint Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 We have not returned to the Premiership. The Premiership ceased to exist in 2007. Just as we have not returned to Canon League Division One. can we call it the top division then ??
Dr Who? Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 Looks like Swansea are going for a cheap option, and they will go down next season. Norwich, and Vila will struggle along with QPR and Reading. Plenty of teams that will be worse off than us. I also think Stoke could struggle as well.m
Saint J 77 Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 Reading about Lambert walking out on Norwich really disgusts me. Yet, the way clubs treat managers only leads to this type of thing happening. Bringing back bad memories of Hoddle walking out on Saints to return to his spiritual home. Our returning to the Premiership has unleashed a return to such scenarios and calling into the total lack of loyalty of managers and players. How I have enjoyed the past couple of seasons in the Championship and League One. I'm pretty shocked he is leaving in the manner he is. I thought he might show a bit more loyalty to them. I wonder if we can expect this from Adkins if we have a successful year?
ART Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 I'm pretty shocked he is leaving in the manner he is. I thought he might show a bit more loyalty to them. I wonder if we can expect this from Adkins if we have a successful year? The same thing crossed my mind as soon as I read about Lambert walking out on Norwich. Till tonight I had considered Lambert one of better principled managers in football.
Badger Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 I'm pretty shocked he is leaving in the manner he is. I thought he might show a bit more loyalty to them. I wonder if we can expect this from Adkins if we have a successful year? The same thing crossed my mind as soon as I read about Lambert walking out on Norwich. Till tonight I had considered Lambert one of better principled managers in football. Did he not use the same tactic in resigning from Colchester to join Norwich three seasons ago ? Something Norwich may also have overlooked. As for NA , I suspect the job he might have left us for has now been taken by Brendan Rodgers.
Thedelldays Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 Did he not use the same tactic in resigning from Colchester to join Norwich three seasons ago ? Something Norwich may also have overlooked. As for NA , I suspect the job he might have left us for has now been taken by Brendan Rodgers. Indeed He jumped ship from Colchester when Norwich came calling. So why the surprise now?
CB Fry Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 I'm pretty shocked he is leaving in the manner he is. I thought he might show a bit more loyalty to them. I wonder if we can expect this from Adkins if we have a successful year? You mean like the loyalty shown by Norwich to Bryan Gunn? Lambert owes Norwich nothing. Adkins owes us none.
Neil Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 Great news for us that Liverpool, Swansea and Norwich are already screwed for next season. Our chances of finishing above Swansea and Norwich have increased, and we've got a reasonable chance of taking points off Liverpool. Can only hope that Martinez (even if he stays) has disrupted Wigan by hawking himself around.
Badger Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 Great news for us that Liverpool, Swansea and Norwich are already screwed for next season. Our chances of finishing above Swansea and Norwich have increased, and we've got a reasonable chance of taking points off Liverpool. Can only hope that Martinez (even if he stays) has disrupted Wigan by hawking himself around. I would not necessarily share your view of Liverpool being "screwed" due to the appointment of Rodgers, but there is a possibility if he does not get off to a reasonable start the crowd - and the senior players - will make it increasingly difficult for him. Norwich are a well run club, and mightcome up with a sensible and good apppointment.
Dr Who? Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 (edited) I really do not think Adkins would leave us, unless a top 4/5 team came in for him. We have a great future, the club is in great shape, no reason to move on. Reports are that lambert was not going to be given money to push on, so most managers will leave if they cannot strengthen their squads. Just look at WGS, if you feel you have taken a club as far as you can, then as a manager you would move on to better yourself. Edited 31 May, 2012 by Dr Who? On missing
sotonswan Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 Looks like Swansea are going for a cheap option, ... May I point out that the two managers mentioned in this thread title were also the 'cheap option'. If we paid anything to wrest Martinez from his glorious playing career at Chester FC it certainly wasn't very much. We paid nothing for Souza. We paid nothing for Rodgers. If we pay significant compensation to Wigan for Jones that will be a first indeed. ... and they will go down next season. I'm happy for you to believe that. You have to admit though, we do seem to be very lucky with managerial appointments, no? I wonder how that works.
SuperMikey Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 May I point out that the two managers mentioned in this thread title were also the 'cheap option'. If we paid anything to wrest Martinez from his glorious playing career at Chester FC it certainly wasn't very much. We paid nothing for Souza. We paid nothing for Rodgers. If we pay significant compensation to Wigan for Jones that will be a first indeed. I'm happy for you to believe that. You have to admit though, we do seem to be very lucky with managerial appointments, no? I wonder how that works. Graeme Jones wouldn't be a bad appointment imo. He obviously needs backing but he's a great coach so could be a good manager. He nearly joined my 2nd team St Johnstone after Derek McInnes left to join Bristol City but we couldn't agree compensation.
ART Posted 31 May, 2012 Posted 31 May, 2012 Did he not use the same tactic in resigning from Colchester to join Norwich three seasons ago ? Something Norwich may also have overlooked. As for NA , I suspect the job he might have left us for has now been taken by Brendan Rodgers. Good shout Badger. I'd completely forgotten and overlooked how he left Colchester. Kind of puts todays events into the right perspective. Much appreciated for that.
SuperSAINT Posted 1 June, 2012 Posted 1 June, 2012 Big Malky will also be in with a shout. Good shout Kraken. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/7790161/Canaries-make-Mackay-enquiry
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