Dr Who? Posted 28 May, 2012 Share Posted 28 May, 2012 I remember paying £1.50 per game in 1988/89. So would think that a season ticket would have been about £22.50 ish. How far football has moved on from nearly a quarter of a century ago!! If you look at this compared to other thing has anything inflated by 27 times as much in 25 years apart from my waistline? that is around 2600% increase in season ticket prices! The current team are no better than the team we had that season in there time. Won the first 4 games, top the league, drew at Arsenal deep into injury time, and then went 19 league games during that season without a win, and then won all the games in April to stay up. All started by a last minute pen from razor against Newcastle. I went to every home game for the first time during the 88/89 season and loved it! I am priced out, which is a shame, but this amount of money is a family holiday for me! Northern away games it is then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 May, 2012 Share Posted 28 May, 2012 You were a kid in 1988 and had to pay £1.50. Now they are free. Exponential deflation is a terrible thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 28 May, 2012 Share Posted 28 May, 2012 You were a kid in 1988 and had to pay £1.50. Now they are free. Exponential deflation is a terrible thing. I remember going with my dad about 1963 cost him 12 and a half pence (2 and 6 old money) me less! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 May, 2012 Share Posted 28 May, 2012 You were a kid in 1988 and had to pay £1.50. Now they are free. Exponential deflation is a terrible thing. Not anymore their not (unless they're accompained by two adults per child).last season they were free this season they have to pay £100+ so thats a 100% increase in four months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 May, 2012 Share Posted 28 May, 2012 Not anymore their not (unless they're accompained by two adults per child).last season they were free this season they have to pay £100+ so thats a 100% increase in four months Free with two season ticket holders. Even £100 is only £5 per match - probably about the same as the £1.50 kids price in 1988 after inflation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 28 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 28 May, 2012 You were a kid in 1988 and had to pay £1.50. Now they are free. Exponential deflation is a terrible thing. Ok as an adult it was £5 to get into the Milton. Not saying it is Saints but just football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesyboyo Posted 28 May, 2012 Share Posted 28 May, 2012 Pretty sure it was £3 for adults when it was £1.50 children in the Milton Rd. This was also when I first started going as a youngster, down the front, just to the left of the goal. Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 May, 2012 Share Posted 28 May, 2012 Who'd have thought thirty year ago we'd all be sittin' here drinking Château de Chasselas, eh? In them days we was glad to have the price of a cup o' tea. A cup o' cold tea. Without milk or sugar. Or tea. In a cracked cup, an' all. Oh, we never had a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper. The best we could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth. But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor. And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stud mark of doom Posted 28 May, 2012 Share Posted 28 May, 2012 Just checked - my 1989/90 season ticket cost £138. This year it will cost me £625 for a very similar seat. Works out as 6.8% pa. Not as bad as I was expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 Just checked - my 1989/90 season ticket cost £138. This year it will cost me £625 for a very similar seat. Works out as 6.8% pa. Not as bad as I was expecting. That sounds about right - 7%ish compound interest. Above inflation, but not by miles. Of course, the disposal income of the earning, adult population in Hampshire has gone up massively over last 20-30 years, so you'd expect ticket prices to reflect that. (there's a limited number of seats and more cash chasing them, basically) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 You were a kid in 1988 and had to pay £1.50. Now they are free. Exponential deflation is a terrible thing. It will be £215 for my 11 year old, so I make that an increase of 14333%, you can get loans from Wonga.com at better rates than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 I don't believe a football match cost £1.50 in 1988. I was 18 and a pint of beer cost £1.20! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 I paid £6 for a seat not far from the Royal Box in our 1976 FA Cup Final triumph Any idea how much an equivalent seat would be nowadays? Presume you would have to be one of the Club Wembley season ticket holders to get such a seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 I paid 1 and 6 (7.5 pence)for my ticket in 1966.....we got promoted and the price rose to 2 shillings (10p) in the following season - I was 10 at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 It will be £215 for my 11 year old, so I make that an increase of 14333%, you can get loans from Wonga.com at better rates than that. Outstanding maths and logic. Comparing the cost of a single match ticket in 1988 with the price of a season ticket in 2012 and then complaining the cost has gone up. It cost £2 per match to take my two last year. That was outstanding value imo. Maybe a bit morre this year but I'd bet still £5 or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 Outstanding maths and logic. Comparing the cost of a single match ticket in 1988 with the price of a season ticket in 2012 and then complaining the cost has gone up. It cost £2 per match to take my two last year. That was outstanding value imo. Maybe a bit morre this year but I'd bet still £5 or less. The maths is fine, but the logic is a bit ropey . I'm not sure where I've complained about the cost going up, if you could kindly point this out to me I'd be grateful. For the record though it will cost me £22.63 for my 2 kids this coming season (a fact, not a complaint), where as I think it cost £6.52 last year, I say I think because I can't be sure how much the kids ST was last year, although I have £150 in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 (edited) I'm not sure where I've complained about the cost going up, if you could kindly point this out to me I'd be grateful. For the record though it will cost me £22.63 for my 2 kids this coming season (a fact, not a complaint), where as I think it cost £6.52 last year, I say I think because I can't be sure how much the kids ST was last year, although I have £150 in my head. I inferred that when you said "I make that an increase of 14,333%" that was a complaint, rather than a detatched unconcerned statement of fact. Apologies if I was mistaken. Season tickets for under 11s varied last year from free in the family section to £100 elsewhere. U17s ranged from £200 to £400. Maybe the increase seems more to you because one of your kids has had a birthday and moved into the more expensive bracket? Ive got that joy to come next year. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/9064330.Saints_season_ticket_prices_announced/ Edited 29 May, 2012 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 The cheapest 1988 FA Cup Final ticket was £8 (terrace behind the goal); The cheapest ticket for the 2012 FA Cup Final was £45 to sit behind the goal (and they were only 16% of the available tickets too). That's over 7.5 times the cost. Worth noting that hikes in ticket prices have come from the following : 1) All-seater stadiums post Hillsborough (early 90s), reducing the cost of the cheapest (previously standing) tickets to the cost of the more expensive "cheapest seating" tickets, as clubs tried to replace the revenue they lost from reduced capacities. 2) Further price hikes to the lowest cost tickets as the 1990-1996 gentrification of football brought more middle class people into football, with expectations of better facilities and more disposable income. 3) Price hikes as clubs redeveloped their grounds to attempt to return to their higher previous capacities, reducing supply of tickets for a short period and then retaining those higher prices when development was completed. 4) More new stadiums, so clubs were able to set a new baseline for all ticket costs from scratch. 5) The push to meet higher costs from player wages and the impact on ticket prices. 6) Debatable, but there's an argument that TV money makes the actual physical fan in the ground less important, so pricing to fill the ground is no longer essential at the top level. Certainly arguable given the recent freezes of ST prices at a number of bottom half Prem sides. 7) Again debatable - a reduction in the number of matches in the top tier ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 I paid £6 for a seat not far from the Royal Box in our 1976 FA Cup Final triumph Any idea how much an equivalent seat would be nowadays? Presume you would have to be one of the Club Wembley season ticket holders to get such a seat The most expensive "general sale" tickets for 2012 were £115 (10% of the total tickets). http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/announcements/fa-cup-final-ticket-news but you're right to say the genuine Premium tickets are Club Wembley, which (if you pay your Club Wembley "licence" at the same time) can be as much as £16943 for the season. WARNING - PDF ! http://www.wembleystadium.com/~/media/Files/WNSL/WembleyStadium/Club%20Wembley%20downloads/2011%20Pricing%20Information.ashx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 There was a programme about pricing the working man out of football a couple of years ago on 5live. It stated that in the 1970's it cost the same to go to a match as it did to go to the cinema. How much does it cost to visit the cinema now, compared to football. Dont know if it's true, but that's what some expert said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 The cheapest 1988 FA Cup Final ticket was £8 (terrace behind the goal); The cheapest ticket for the 2012 FA Cup Final was £45 to sit behind the goal (and they were only 16% of the available tickets too). That's over 7.5 times the cost. No its not. It's little over 5.5 times. Which spread over 25 years is a smidge over 7% per year. Not that shocking at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 (edited) No its not. It's little over 5.5 times. Which spread over 25 years is a smidge over 7% per year. Not that shocking at all. Maths, eh ! I actually had £6 as the original cost (misremembered) then checked it and changed the cost, but not the calculation. I would point out that the inflation rate has been nowhere near that much in any year since 1988 with the exception of 1990-1992 when it got as high as 8%, and was below 3% for the whole of the 14 year period between 1993-2007. So in comparison, an average of 7% (more than double and often treble the inflation rate for most of the intervening years) looks bloody ridiculous. Edited 29 May, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 (edited) So in comparison, an average of 7% (more than double and often treble the inflation rate for most of the intervening years) looks bloody ridiculous. Except the 1988 ticket is standing and the 2012 was seated - seating being much more expensive than terracing, probably c50% more. Inflation of £12 to £45 is 5.4%pa over 25 years. So apart from the dodgy maths, the seat / standing difference and the fact that average wages have increased more than 2.5 times - 5.4% pa is bloody ridiculous. Apparently. Edited 29 May, 2012 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 In the terrace days, it was usually about the same price to stand at the ends as it was to go to the cinema. So to be comparable, a cheapest ticket should be perhaps £15 in the PL (£10 cinema plus 50% premium to sit, since we have no choice.) Anyway you slice it, £30 +, week after week, to watch 90 mins of footy is steep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 29 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 May, 2012 It is but they know they can still get the bums on seats as we need to support them. As I said this was in no way a go at the club, but just pointing out how much it has become a rich mans game. As someone pointed out a pint used to be around £1.20 in 1988, and you could could watch a game of football for 30p more, seats or terrace still a game of football. I do not believe a pint is anywhere near £32 is it..... Not even in London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 I remember paying £1.50 per game in 1988/89. So would think that a season ticket would have been about £22.50 ish. How far football has moved on from nearly a quarter of a century ago!! If you look at this compared to other thing has anything inflated by 27 times as much in 25 years apart from my waistline? that is around 2600% increase in season ticket prices! The current team are no better than the team we had that season in there time. Won the first 4 games, top the league, drew at Arsenal deep into injury time, and then went 19 league games during that season without a win, and then won all the games in April to stay up. All started by a last minute pen from razor against Newcastle. I went to every home game for the first time during the 88/89 season and loved it! I am priced out, which is a shame, but this amount of money is a family holiday for me! Northern away games it is then! Not sure about your maths. Assuming it was GBP5 in 1990 and GBP40 in 2012 that's acutally 10% inflation (yearly inflation compounding effect). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 can we infer from this discussion that you are so disgusted with current ticket prices that you are going to boycott future matches in protest ?....or..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 I remember paying £1.50 per game in 1988/89. So would think that a season ticket would have been about £22.50 ish. How far football has moved on from nearly a quarter of a century ago!! If you look at this compared to other thing has anything inflated by 27 times as much in 25 years apart from my waistline? that is around 2600% increase in season ticket prices! The current team are no better than the team we had that season in there time. Won the first 4 games, top the league, drew at Arsenal deep into injury time, and then went 19 league games during that season without a win, and then won all the games in April to stay up. All started by a last minute pen from razor against Newcastle. I went to every home game for the first time during the 88/89 season and loved it! I am priced out, which is a shame, but this amount of money is a family holiday for me! Northern away games it is then! Are you sure? I still remember being able to get in as a kid in the Milton in that season. Tickets were around £2.50. Adult ones ranged from £5 to £8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK the 2nd Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 I remember as a lad paying 2/0 (10p) to get in to the milton. I did an evening echo paper round 6 nights a week and was paid 15/0 (75p) a week. About 42 years ago. Maybe someone could do today's comparisons? Oh by the way my first pint also cost 2/0 (10p) about the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 30 May, 2012 Share Posted 30 May, 2012 can we infer from this discussion that you are so disgusted with current ticket prices that you are going to boycott future matches in protest ?....or..... Not disgusted or surprised & not going to boycott, but some serious thought is being given as to justifying my attendance. The kids will be getting their tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toe_punt Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Ok as an adult it was £5 to get into the Milton. Not saying it is Saints but just football. So, you lied in the first post just to stir up the poop eh? Or did you suddenly just "remember"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Except the 1988 ticket is standing and the 2012 was seated - seating being much more expensive than terracing, probably c50% more. Inflation of £12 to £45 is 5.4%pa over 25 years. So apart from the dodgy maths, the seat / standing difference and the fact that average wages have increased more than 2.5 times - 5.4% pa is bloody ridiculous. Apparently. Except that it's not possible to buy a standing ticket for the Prem in 2012 so the whole thing is a barrel of chickens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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