trousers Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Just kicked off. Come on England! Btw, since when did we play in black and blue?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 May, 2012 0-1 Ashley Young Good individual goal. Norway very poor mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvaughanwilliams Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 The advertising on the edge of one side the pitch is being digitally superimposed, which is even more annoying than when they use the LED boards. Good finish from Ashley Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Playing well so far. I bet the Redknapp loving Sun are hating the early scoreline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Is it just me that just doesn't get it with James Milner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 I swear i just saw charming man dressed as a medieval knight..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 The advertising on the edge of one side the pitch is being digitally superimposed, which is even more annoying than when they use the LED boards. Good finish from Ashley Young. Wow that's annoying now I've noticed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Gerrard would have been sent off for that in the finals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Gerrard would have been sent off for that in the finals Nah, was only one footed. He'd have got booked without doubt but not sent off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 The advertising on the edge of one side the pitch is being digitally superimposed, which is even more annoying than when they use the LED boards. Good finish from Ashley Young. I wondered what that was, every now and then a players head was disappearing on that side of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Is it just me that just doesn't get it with James Milner? Heres another one. Gareth Barry, just don't understand what the fuss is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Heres another one. Gareth Barry, just don't understand what the fuss is about. I'm like that with Phil Jones it seems a default opinion of the news paper hacks that he is going to be England captain one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 I'm like that with Phil Jones it seems a default opinion of the news paper hacks that he is going to be England captain one day What does Barry do? He doesn't tackle anywhere near as well as Parker, he doesn't retain the ball particularly well, he never breaks forward, he never scores (i know hes a defensive midfielder) he just, well there. It's a joke he's there and Carrick is at home who is a far better player. Same with Milner, playing wide right, rarely beats a man, not great at crossing or passing, another one who's just there without really offering much. Jones suffers from the media frenzy that any breaking through talented, young English player is automatically going to become world class. Even if their ability is far less than their hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 feck me, you can see how much of a difference garrard and parker were in the middle I say, get OxO on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 feck me, you can see how much of a difference garrard and parker were in the middle I say, get OxO on Barry has given the ball away cheaply twice in 3 minutes. No way should he be playing for England, no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Carroll has been good to be fair to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Well we looked pretty average to say the least...hopefully the players were just saving themselves for the proper games. Never really looked like we were going to score after the first 15 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Well we looked pretty average to say the least...hopefully the players were just saving themselves for the proper games. Never really looked like we were going to score after the first 15 mins. These friendlies aren't worth watching tbh. No one wants to get injured so it's effectively just a training session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVER THE HILL Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Theo absolutely terrible ! Every time is see him play he seems to have less confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 These friendlies aren't worth watching tbh. No one wants to get injured so it's effectively just a training session. yeah you kind of got that impression...how bored did the England fans look? Thats the difference between club and international football....saints games always leave my feeling something (dissapointment, happiness...something) England games (win,lose or draw) just make me feel...Meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 I was more interested in Eurovision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Turgid, uninspiring win from another never-will-be's, has-been's and a couple of half-decent footballers. Why, oh why do we continue to persist with sh1te like Barry, Milner and Downing I don't know. Henderson ... major ROFL. Richards, Jagielka, Crouch and Lennon left out.... disgrace. I like Roy, but he's just made the same mistake as the rest of the managers by making uninspiring choices. Whereas Germany go for Gotze, Ozil, Schweinsteiger, Kroos and Mueller we leave most of our players of equal ability at home. Nevermind, he'll be hounded out before WC2014 anyway. Then we'll have a 36 year old Frank Lampard captaining us in Brazil. There was only one player in that midfield tonight who I'd have over any of the Saints starting midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Well at least England actually played it on the ground for once. Nice triangles too. The team is pretty much there I think to be decent contenders in the Euros, just need that spark of ingenuity that players like Young and Oxo have to set it off. If it was me I would play something like (assuming a fully fit squad): --------------------HART----------------- MICAH-----JAGIELKA-----CAHILL-----COLE ------------GERRARD-----PARKER--------- CHAMBO-----------ROONEY--------YOUNG -------------------CARROLL-------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Turgid, uninspiring win from another never-will-be's, has-been's and a couple of half-decent footballers. Why, oh why do we continue to persist with sh1te like Barry, Milner and Downing I don't know. Henderson ... major ROFL. Richards, Jagielka, Crouch and Lennon left out.... disgrace. I like Roy, but he's just made the same mistake as the rest of the managers by making uninspiring choices. Whereas Germany go for Gotze, Ozil, Schweinsteiger, Kroos and Mueller we leave most of our players of equal ability at home. Nevermind, he'll be hounded out before WC2014 anyway. Then we'll have a 36 year old Frank Lampard captaining us in Brazil. There was only one player in that midfield tonight who I'd have over any of the Saints starting midfield. And Carrick. They'll be commentators purring over ball retaining midfielders and bemoaning our lack of them, yet our best one at it can't get near the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Milner...park player. Just runs about a lot, that's it. Downing - just rubbish, offers nothing defensively or in attack. Jones - casual, lackadaisical. Has something but how does he get in ahead of Jagielka? Henderson - just fck off, not even a park player Barry - don't get it, too slow, very avarage Walcott - what's happened there ? Used to be good, about 5 years ago Jagielka was best player on the pitch and not in the squad and Adam Johnson is twice the player Downing will ever be. Did more in 10 minutes than Downing has done all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 Would agree with the comments on Adam Johnson, the squad should be the other way round. Downing should be the standby winger. Johnson was more positive in his cameo than Downing was all game. Just a total non-football player, similar to Henderson. 2 players that you watch and just think ''what do they actually do??'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 And Carrick. They'll be commentators purring over ball retaining midfielders and bemoaning our lack of them, yet our best one at it can't get near the team. Sorry yeah, forgot him. Carrick too. Just rolled some names off the cuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 I'll cut Downing some slack. He put in a very inviting cross in early on that Carroll should have put away and he looked decent defensively. I'd point my finger at Barry and Milner who just sat deep and did **** all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 May, 2012 Share Posted 26 May, 2012 I'll cut Downing some slack. He put in a very inviting cross in early on that Carroll should have put away and he looked decent defensively. I'd point my finger at Barry and Milner who just sat deep and did **** all. Can you remember the last time either played well for England? I can't, yet they still get picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 Sorry but I thought Carrick himself had decided not to play Internationals so he wasn't even considered because of this?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 No he said he doesn't want to be a bit part player for England. Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 These friendlies aren't worth watching tbh. No one wants to get injured so it's effectively just a training session. Le Tiss took the Russia game seriously back in the day was motm and scored a hatrick - fat load of good that did him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 I recorded the match to watch this morning! Pretty sensible England performance, you have to drop deep and concede possessions to combat the technical skills and possession football of the Norway midfields. There was a few reasons to be optimistics though i thought, Jagielka was good and Adam Johnson when he come on. Henderson didn't get much of a chance but I see him on FATV out-skilling Oxo in keepy uppy, so I think he could be Good. Definitely feeling a bit more optimistic with these 3 talents in the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 Sorry but I thought Carrick himself had decided not to play Internationals so he wasn't even considered because of this?? He wasn't picked for the squad so said he didn't want to be on the standby list as didn't want to be a bit part player. Can't blame here really when Gareth Barry gets picked ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 I also think people are being harsh on Milners! He did a very good job at right-back. Certainly when we brought on Walcott to play right back we lost a lot of our defensive solidity. The problem with the 6-2-2 formation though is you need your full-backs to be good going forwards. While Milners is very good with defensives we could use a right back with some attacking threat like wassisname from Spurs or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 I was more interested in Eurovision Pretty apt that the two teams who produced that pile of dog mess of a game also secured the bottom 2 places in The Eurovision Song Contest. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 1:I like Roy, but he's just made the same mistake as the rest of the managers by making uninspiring choices. Whereas Germany go for Gotze, Ozil, Schweinsteiger, Kroos and Mueller we leave most of our players of equal ability 2:There was only one player in that midfield tonight who I'd have over any of the Saints starting midfield. Two issues here, 1:what players did he leave out that are of equal to the german players mentioned. Please god dont tell me carrick is being compared to schweinsteiger!? I am dissapointed micah richards was left out though. He had a very good season. 2: again, please dear god, really?! I know barry milner etc arent inspiring world beaters, but they are twice the players tht morgan cork and hammond are!! Other than those two points ill just attribute to mental illness, i agree with you it wasnt a particulary great spectacle to watch but what else can be expected for a pre tournament friendly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 as per my point about phil jones.. just listened to a hack on the radio saying how impressed he was with phil jones last night.. it really is default point of view about him also, I think gerrard makes england tick...however, he really needs to cut out the hollywood passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 Pretty apt that the two teams who produced that pile of dog mess of a game also secured the bottom 2 places in The Eurovision Song Contest. LOL May as well disband the Euro's now then and just hand the trophy to Sweden. Bet the Russian grannies probably take a better penalty than the first three for Huddersfield as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 Le Tiss took the Russia game seriously back in the day was motm and scored a hatrick - fat load of good that did him!! Yep. And on his first competitive start for england (iirc) he was the only england player to come close to scoring, with a trademark long range dipping volley that skimmed the bar with the keeper beaten. And he then got booed by the england fans for jumping over a two footed legbreaker tackle in our own half, resulting in a throw-in to england rather than a free kick and a seriously injured le tiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 Two issues here, 1:what players did he leave out that are of equal to the german players mentioned. Please god dont tell me carrick is being compared to schweinsteiger!? I am dissapointed micah richards was left out though. He had a very good season. 2: again, please dear god, really?! I know barry milner etc arent inspiring world beaters, but they are twice the players tht morgan cork and hammond are!! Other than those two points ill just attribute to mental illness, i agree with you it wasnt a particulary great spectacle to watch but what else can be expected for a pre tournament friendly? No Carrick isn't as good as Schweinsteiger. But what he is good at and what you need in international football is a player who can keep the ball, retain possession and keep you ticking over. Carrick does this excellently. Last night the only thing Barry did of note was give the ball away twice when under no pressure and passing sideways 20 yards. On one of those occasions It led directly to a Norway goal opportunity. We'd have been punished for If they'd been a better side. Carrick alongside Parker, with Gerrard ahead of them would be a good central midfield in a 4-2-3-1 formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 No Carrick isn't as good as Schweinsteiger. But what he is good at and what you need in international football is a player who can keep the ball, retain possession and keep you ticking over. Carrick does this excellently. Last night the only thing Barry did of note was give the ball away twice when under no pressure and passing sideways 20 yards. On one of those occasions It led directly to a Norway goal opportunity. We'd have been punished for If they'd been a better side. Carrick alongside Parker, with Gerrard ahead of them would be a good central midfield in a 4-2-3-1 formation. well, a very good chance carrick has missed out due to his own spite...Barry could be ruled out. there is talk of Roy bringing in Jageilka as a replacement. surely, this would have been carrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 as per my point about phil jones.. just listened to a hack on the radio saying how impressed he was with phil jones last night.. it really is default point of view about him also, I think gerrard makes england tick...however, he really needs to cut out the hollywood passes Jones was crap, but to his credit at least he looked like he gave a ****. Was Gerrard attempting hollywood passes? Didn't notice that myself. If he was, I'd have welcomed someone being creative in that turgid and dreary midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 What about Britton or Dyer from Swansea? They'd be picked if they played for a top 4 side. I'd have Crouch in there. Can't think of too many others though. Not bothered about Richards not being involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 What about Britton or Dyer from Swansea? They'd be picked if they played for a top 4 side. I'd have Crouch in there. Can't think of too many others though. Not bothered about Richards not being involved. In my Euro 2012 ideal squad I had Britton. Superb little player. Instead utter tripe like Barry gets in, so what do we know eh? :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 (edited) Two issues here, 1:what players did he leave out that are of equal to the german players mentioned. Please god dont tell me carrick is being compared to schweinsteiger!? I am dissapointed micah richards was left out though. He had a very good season. 2: again, please dear god, really?! I know barry milner etc arent inspiring world beaters, but they are twice the players tht morgan cork and hammond are!! Other than those two points ill just attribute to mental illness, i agree with you it wasnt a particulary great spectacle to watch but what else can be expected for a pre tournament friendly? 1. Carrick, Britton, Osman, A Johnson, Jarvis, Pilkington, Joe Cole, Lennon... Lallana. Do you think other sides would really ignore that kind of attacking talent at their disposal? Answer is, they don't. They embrace them. Still, as a nation we have a habit of ignoring our better players, our mavericks (Marsh, Bowles, Le Tissier etc) in favour of limited footballers like Batty, Ince, Barry etc etc. 2. Yes, I mean it. If you put Schneiderlin in City's midfield, it'll have no other effect other than improve them. Put Barry in our midfield and our midfield would struggle. So, in your opinion, Downing, Milner, Barry etc are more likely to make something happen than a Lallana? Ha. Ok then. We'll revise that when he's doing the business in the Premier League, shall we? Doesn't matter what league you play in, if you've got it, you've got it and if you haven't, you haven't. A sizeable chunk of the England squad would not even stand out in the Championship as they're not very good football players - just fortunate enough to be catapulted into the EPL megastars category because they're English and have one or two decent games every now and then. Leon Britton is a perfect example of a better footballer who'd be hacking around in the lower leagues but is infinitely better than some of our more "established" internationals. I'm not complaining about the result (and thanks for free the diagnosis of mental illness, appreciated) but we were playing Norway who were, all in all, the better footballing side. This is why we keep getting outplayed by other nations.. continuous ignorance of our better footballers. FWIW, my ideal squad for the Euros is below. Wibble. Goalkeepers; Joe Hart, David Stockdale, Jason Steele. Defenders: Micah Richards, Gary Cahill, John Terry, Ashley Cole, Kyle Walker, Phil Jones, Phil Jagielka, Chris Smalling. Midfielders: Scott Parker, Frank Lampard, Ashley Young, Theo Walcott, Aaron Lennon, Adam Johnson, Leon Britton, Michael Carrick. Strikers: Wayne Rooney, Jermaine Defoe, Peter Crouch, Danny Welbeck. On standby for CL's England in bold italic; Others to consider for your squad; Robert Green, Ben Amos, Frankie Fielding, Scott Carson, John Ruddy, Keiron Gibbs, Leighton Baines, Ryan Shawcross, Joleon Lescott, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Stephen Warnock, Stewart Downing, Leon Osman, Danny Murphy, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gareth Barry, James Milner, Tom Cleverley, Matt Jarvis, Adam Lallana (), Anthony Pilkington, Steven Gerrard, Joe Cole, Grant Holt, Darren Bent, Daniel Sturridge, Andy Carroll, Danny Graham, Bobby Zamora, Gary Hooper, Rickie Lambert (). Injuries and Retirements; Paul Scholes, Ben Foster, Paul Robinson, Tom Huddlestone, Michael Dawson, Jack Rodwell and Jack Wilshere. Edited 27 May, 2012 by Crab Lungs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 Jones was crap, but to his credit at least he looked like he gave a ****. Was Gerrard attempting hollywood passes? Didn't notice that myself. If he was, I'd have welcomed someone being creative in that turgid and dreary midfield. they made a point on the radio that all but one of his hollywood passes gave the ball away...do that against a half decent team... yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 May, 2012 Share Posted 27 May, 2012 they made a point on the radio that all but one of his hollywood passes gave the ball away...do that against a half decent team... yeah Which is why I would never, ever let him play for England, again. He does it every time he plays and disrupts the rhythm of the team. Bloody roy-of-the-rovers rubbish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 28 May, 2012 Share Posted 28 May, 2012 I swear i just saw charming man dressed as a medieval knight..? I wasn't in the ground long enough for the cameras to pick me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 May, 2012 Share Posted 28 May, 2012 barry is out....good news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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